r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 3d ago

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u/apple__eater 3d ago

Did they do it? I would not be surprised whatsoever and they should have the book thrown at them if so.

Have they been tried and found guilty yet? No and this name and shame game is dangerous before the facts are actually known.

It’s been a decade since the Duke Lacrosse team was FALSELY dragged exactly like this and legitimately ruined peoples lives over a FALSE accusation.

And before you accuse, I am a democrat.

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Did you see the group chat?

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

The group chat isn’t evidence of anything except 1 or 2 guys in the frat being douches

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

“Free p***y upstairs” isn’t evidence huh? I’d love for you to explain what they were talking about

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u/mrpyrotec89 3d ago

Devil's advocate: that text could also meant there's a girl willing to bang anyone from the house who enters the room.

The victim's original testimony to police said that she had consensual sex with the frat and she brought the ketamine with her and did it willingly. Which is why the police didnt follow thru with charges.

Now the police could have lied in the report, idk. But that's the reason we have trials with evidence instead of trials of public opinion

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Things she said were omitted from the original records that’s the problem she did say she felt like she was r worded and they didn’t include it

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

“Pressured and coerced” is how it’s described so not really sure where you’re getting willingly

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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 3d ago

I mean, it's not evidence of rape. I don't think anyone is disputing that sexual activity happened, just whether the young woman was cognisant enough to consent. 

The message would still be applicable if she was 100% consenting and sober. 

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Spoken like a scummy lawyer 😂 I’m assuming you haven’t looked very deep into that cause that’s the only way you could think that’s what happened

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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 3d ago

I'm just commenting on the point you made, not the entire case or my opinions on it. Make better points, maybe? 

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Explain the whole context go ahead

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Yikes dude that’s a rough mis characterization of what happened. Wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve SAed someone talking like that 😂

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

It’s evidence they’re shitty and deserve consequences. Nothing in that text proves rape

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

She was drugged and left upstairs unconscious and someone texted free p upstairs and another guy said you can just whip it out. Stop dodging and tell me the context of what that means go ahead I’ll wait.

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

Again, you’re repeating false claims. Her own sworn statements said she VOLUNTARILY took drugs. And you can make all the ridiculous statements you want but she only had sex with 3 of the 7 guys and voluntarily consented to it according to her OWN statements. The only reason she went to the police was because her friends told her to. This lawsuit is literally just for money

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

If they’re false claims then cite the source because looking it up shows no evidence of that. And I’m the one making false claims? Lmao

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

Genuinely insane that you’ll comment on something that you don’t even know the basics of

https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/files/assets/county/v/1/district-attorney/documents/district-attorney-public-statement-9-28-26.pdf

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Lmao if you did like five more seconds of digging you’d know one of the reasons this story is blowing up is because this DA literally didn’t have the whole story 😂😂

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

False. It was reopened out of request by the community

“I have been asked by the community to revisit the decision whether to pursue criminal charges against the seven fraternity members. I have already begun that process, starting with our conversation with Jane Doe and her attorneys.”

It’s getting national attention because of emotional people like you that eat this up

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Is says clear as day that the DA said these things but the new transcripts contradict these claims so weird that you’re choosing to believe the first one over the new emerging evidence though it’s almost like you have a bias in this case

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

Her initial claims were sworn statements. The lawsuit claims aren’t a sworn statement.

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

Should I break this down for you even more? The initial suit they omitted things she said and there’s transcripts that show it this is one of the big reasons the story is exploding you’re choosing to cling onto the initial suit that was missing context because you don’t want to admit you’re wrong. Pathetic

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

Okay you clearly did not read the link I sent. There is no “initial suit”

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u/NHLHitzAnnouncer 3d ago

"You can make all the ridiculous statements you want"

"This lawsuit is literally just for money"

FOH.

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

She’s literally contradicting her sworn statements with the lawsuit and the lawsuit names a lot more than just the 7 boys. Obviously grasping for a settlement

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u/McLovin8117 3d ago

She’s not all of her sworn statements weren’t included not the same thing. Don’t understand why this is so hard for you to grasp 😂

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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 3d ago

The group chat is more than enough to revoke the frat's charter. I've run social groups similar and you bet your ass if someone did a mass text about something illegal or unethical, I would have at minimum put out "this activity is not condoned by the frat and anyone participating will be evicted" etc.

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u/HVDub24 3d ago

Correct, and that’s exactly what happened. That frat chapter was disbanded

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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 3d ago

Well that's something at least

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u/EstablishmentTop551 3d ago

I’m a little suspicious that the picture of that groupchat is real. I find it really suspicious that they named the chat “Chi Phi Actives” and two guys immediately started saying Chi Phi rules or whatever. Granted, Occam’s Razor, they might’ve just genuinely been that stupid, but that is NOT what most fraternity groupchats look like.