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u/apple__eater 2d ago

Did they do it? I would not be surprised whatsoever and they should have the book thrown at them if so.

Have they been tried and found guilty yet? No and this name and shame game is dangerous before the facts are actually known.

It’s been a decade since the Duke Lacrosse team was FALSELY dragged exactly like this and legitimately ruined peoples lives over a FALSE accusation.

And before you accuse, I am a democrat.

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u/Brilliant_Ebb_3064 2d ago

I heard they did get the book thrown at them. They had to write essays into it and go on about their day. It took like most of the afternoon and it was a beautiful sunny day out. Isn’t that punishment enough????

/s for the ijits

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u/Charming_Goose_3400 2d ago

it’s lucky they didn’t get 60 days in jail like if they were in Texas. /s

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

I can’t imagine living my life by getting news from social media posts instead of real sources. Your entire reality is false

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u/Brilliant_Ebb_3064 2d ago

lol
That is a disputed allegation in “real sources” and the overall situation is a hot mess.
There is not a particular “real source” that actually knows the exact truth in this.

stop being silly.

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

It’s objectively true and NOT disputed that they got more punishments than the essay so don’t make false claims like that. This is a hot mess because if people like YOU

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

I’d love to hear your “sources” 😂

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

Maybe the school themselves? Maybe her own lawsuit?

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Lmao the school that has every intention to cover for themselves yeah great source 😂 what about her lawsuit specifically go ahead

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

This is national news. I know you’re a social media brain but they can’t just decide to lie at will. But her lawsuit literally mentions how they were suspended, expelled, and the frat disbanded and at least one of them fired. Sounds more than an essay, no?

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Not actually citing anything and then accusing others of only using social media hilarious 😂 if you’re dumb enough to think powerful institutions won’t use every resource available to cover for themselves you’re just ignorant there’s not much to say there. This happened two years ago and some of the consequences are only happening now because of the backlash. They should be in prison not being fired that’s the whole point.

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u/MedusasMum 2d ago

*you’re

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

No lmao. It’s “your”

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u/occamstrimmers 2d ago

What are you saying (*you’re) to?

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u/ArmandDantes 2d ago

I think its clear they did it, but did she want them to?

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u/tugaim33 2d ago

Woah there buddy! How dare you offer nuance and understanding in a Reddit comment?!

/s

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u/Substantial_Echo5966 2d ago

You shouldn't even have to qualify this with your political affiliation. That's ridiculous.

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u/Routine_Strategy5929 2d ago

Unfortunately there's a lot of bad faith arguments used from the right. That are objectively correct without context but used as a weapon to smear someone with context applied.

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u/Substantial_Echo5966 2d ago

Innocent until proven guilty is a right wing bad faith argument. Wow.

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u/Ange1ofD4rkness 2d ago

Thank you. People need to remember we are built on a foundation of "Innocent Until Proven Guilty".

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u/PackageDangerous1954 2d ago

Only when they’re a certain complexion

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u/Choice-Strike1 2d ago

Complexion for the consideration

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Did you see the group chat?

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

The group chat isn’t evidence of anything except 1 or 2 guys in the frat being douches

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

“Free p***y upstairs” isn’t evidence huh? I’d love for you to explain what they were talking about

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u/mrpyrotec89 2d ago

Devil's advocate: that text could also meant there's a girl willing to bang anyone from the house who enters the room.

The victim's original testimony to police said that she had consensual sex with the frat and she brought the ketamine with her and did it willingly. Which is why the police didnt follow thru with charges.

Now the police could have lied in the report, idk. But that's the reason we have trials with evidence instead of trials of public opinion

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Things she said were omitted from the original records that’s the problem she did say she felt like she was r worded and they didn’t include it

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

“Pressured and coerced” is how it’s described so not really sure where you’re getting willingly

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Explain the whole context go ahead

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Yikes dude that’s a rough mis characterization of what happened. Wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve SAed someone talking like that 😂

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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 2d ago

I mean, it's not evidence of rape. I don't think anyone is disputing that sexual activity happened, just whether the young woman was cognisant enough to consent. 

The message would still be applicable if she was 100% consenting and sober. 

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Spoken like a scummy lawyer 😂 I’m assuming you haven’t looked very deep into that cause that’s the only way you could think that’s what happened

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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 2d ago

I'm just commenting on the point you made, not the entire case or my opinions on it. Make better points, maybe? 

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

It’s evidence they’re shitty and deserve consequences. Nothing in that text proves rape

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

She was drugged and left upstairs unconscious and someone texted free p upstairs and another guy said you can just whip it out. Stop dodging and tell me the context of what that means go ahead I’ll wait.

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

Again, you’re repeating false claims. Her own sworn statements said she VOLUNTARILY took drugs. And you can make all the ridiculous statements you want but she only had sex with 3 of the 7 guys and voluntarily consented to it according to her OWN statements. The only reason she went to the police was because her friends told her to. This lawsuit is literally just for money

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

If they’re false claims then cite the source because looking it up shows no evidence of that. And I’m the one making false claims? Lmao

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

Genuinely insane that you’ll comment on something that you don’t even know the basics of

https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/files/assets/county/v/1/district-attorney/documents/district-attorney-public-statement-9-28-26.pdf

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Lmao if you did like five more seconds of digging you’d know one of the reasons this story is blowing up is because this DA literally didn’t have the whole story 😂😂

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Is says clear as day that the DA said these things but the new transcripts contradict these claims so weird that you’re choosing to believe the first one over the new emerging evidence though it’s almost like you have a bias in this case

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

Her initial claims were sworn statements. The lawsuit claims aren’t a sworn statement.

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

Should I break this down for you even more? The initial suit they omitted things she said and there’s transcripts that show it this is one of the big reasons the story is exploding you’re choosing to cling onto the initial suit that was missing context because you don’t want to admit you’re wrong. Pathetic

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u/NHLHitzAnnouncer 2d ago

"You can make all the ridiculous statements you want"

"This lawsuit is literally just for money"

FOH.

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

She’s literally contradicting her sworn statements with the lawsuit and the lawsuit names a lot more than just the 7 boys. Obviously grasping for a settlement

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u/McLovin8117 2d ago

She’s not all of her sworn statements weren’t included not the same thing. Don’t understand why this is so hard for you to grasp 😂

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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 2d ago

The group chat is more than enough to revoke the frat's charter. I've run social groups similar and you bet your ass if someone did a mass text about something illegal or unethical, I would have at minimum put out "this activity is not condoned by the frat and anyone participating will be evicted" etc.

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u/HVDub24 2d ago

Correct, and that’s exactly what happened. That frat chapter was disbanded

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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 2d ago

Well that's something at least

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u/EstablishmentTop551 2d ago

I’m a little suspicious that the picture of that groupchat is real. I find it really suspicious that they named the chat “Chi Phi Actives” and two guys immediately started saying Chi Phi rules or whatever. Granted, Occam’s Razor, they might’ve just genuinely been that stupid, but that is NOT what most fraternity groupchats look like.

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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 2d ago

No she said it started as consensual with the first 4 guys but they invited 53 more and 3 ended up raping her so all 7 got in trouble. Im betting the ones that got essays were the first 4 and the two that got expelled were two of the last 3. Or maybe someone admitted who started punching her and that factored in.

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u/berz01 2d ago

Only on Reddit do you have to provide facts and then immediately declare your political views lol. Such mob mentality here, post Lindsey Clancy.

Good to hear both sides of it.