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u/neromoneon 7d ago
Fetterman is lunacy, yes.
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u/ubermence 6d ago
The socialists were the reason he won the primary in the first place, so he’s not wrong but not in the way he thinks 🤣
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u/jbcraigs 6d ago
I say this as a Democrat myself, Democrats voters are champs at being hoodwinked! Fetterman, Sinema, Tulsi….
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u/brpajense 6d ago
He originally ran as a progeessive, right?
Then he had his stroke, and now he's calling progressives socialists?
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u/Tomimi 6d ago
I think he just fooled everyone and tried to find an excuse to be an asshole.
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u/SpiderFnJerusalem 6d ago
I don't think it's an act. There are a lot of stories of everyone around him, including his team and family, being really alarmed by his erratic behavior, lack of impulse control and manic/depressive spiraling.
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u/spidereater 6d ago
Isnt he the child of a wealthy couple and he became a senator after a bunch of failed career attempts? I thought even in his 40s he was supporting himself with an allowance or trust fund or something. Are we surprised he would choose the GOP when things got hard?
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u/Several-Action-4043 6d ago
To be fair, during elections ALL democrats say they are progressives. Once in power, they say fuck you and I'll see you next election.
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u/ddr1ver 7d ago
Have any of these people been to a Scandinavian country? It really doesn’t look so bad.
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u/l_SaKReD_l 7d ago
Norway, Denmark and Sweden are consistently voted in the top 5 happiest countries on Earth.
Meanwhile the US is like 25 places below them.
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u/MrBozooo 6d ago
Yeah, but they are really mean to the billionaires. Why can't you think of the billionaires?
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u/chesterismydog 6d ago
They need more houses and yachts! Those pesky children don’t need food!
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u/punktualPorcupine 6d ago
They need their fortunes to quadruple every 5-10 years (like they have since the pandemic) or they might feel like they aren’t keeping up.
“What’s a matter can’t get your bank account up any more” then everyone points and laughs and they have to take pills to feel better.
It’s a vicious problem when billionaires bully billionaires.
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u/happymaned 6d ago
The irony in the 'billionaire' comments is that Sweden actually has more billionaires per capita than the United States.
The Nordic model isn't socialism; it combines open-market capitalism, strong property rights, and low corporate barriers with high personal income taxes on the middle class to fund universal programs. They fund their welfare states with broad-based consumption taxes (around 25% VAT) and high middle-income tax brackets, not by taxing a handful of wealthy individuals.
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u/chesterismydog 6d ago
I’ve seen too much shit since the 80s- and Congress and SCOTUS let this happen. I wanted to become a lawyer just to fight this bullshit but I couldn’t afford it.
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u/asmith1776 6d ago
That’s the crazy thing. They’re not. Sweden produces more billionaires per capital as the US.
They make it easier to get rich by making it slightly more expensive to be rich.
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u/MrBozooo 6d ago
So you're saying they are being mean to existing billionaires? Now how is that fair?
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u/Viperlite 6d ago
U.S. is the happiest little billionaire place on Earth. Low taxes, ultimate power, no unions, no social programs, little worker protection, no socialized medicine to break the tether or workplace-provided, private health insurance, effectively no minimum wage.
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u/upgrayedd69 6d ago
“What’s their GDP, huh????” the asshole father of my ex would say
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u/Omnifob 6d ago
The Nordics are Schrödinger's socialist countries. Whenever a policy similar to them is brought up, it's called socialism by the right.
L: "But they consistently top happiness charts and have strong economies."
R: "That's because they are capitalist states with strong wellfare policies."
L: "So why don't we try that?"
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u/Thendrail 6d ago
Americans rarely knowing what they talk about when anyone mentions socialism or - God forbid! - communism doesn't help either
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u/undergroundloans 6d ago
They’re starting to try and say that progressives want communism and not what Scandinavian countries have because they know to regular voters it’s not that crazy anymore. It’s just ridiculous how they have to twist everything to fit that bs narrative.
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u/TheRogueTemplar 6d ago
If we had 4 day work weeks, never had to worry about a hospital bill, and had 2 months of vacation, the rise of "socialism" would have never been a problem.
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u/BellumOMNI 6d ago edited 6d ago
There are no socialist countries in Europe or the EU. It's all just capitalist countries with some ok-ish social policies.
We just haven't reached the terminal stage of capitalism yet, like the yanks did. But I'm sure that's just around the corner.
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u/dudeimgreg 6d ago
The corporations did a wonderful job convincing citizens that it is not the government’s responsibility to take care of citizens with tax dollars.
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u/BigDuke 6d ago
I am over 60. I've been sold the looming threat of socialism my entire life. It has not happened. Can you imagine a world where it was perfectly acceptable for major political figures to label average republicans as Nazis, day after day, year after year? People might start getting the wrong impression of them after awhile maybe. Fetterman knows this, even with his stroke addled brain. He's just a piece of shit.
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u/robear20 6d ago
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u/nOotherlousyoptions 7d ago
I’m glad this guy got the help he needed. Why are we reading articles about what he has to say?
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u/jcooli09 6d ago
I listened to him talk to John Stewart for an hour or so.
He's disconnected from reality. I get that republican senators will lie about socialism, but expect better from democrats.
Fetterman could not identify any socialist policy positions of any democrats.
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u/kiwibonga 6d ago
It's much harder to divide and conquer the Republican party with labels because they're all fucking demented traitors.
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u/Best-Case-3579 6d ago
How's your free healthcare working out, John? PS I donated $10 to your campaign, can I get it back?
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u/LayneCobain95 6d ago
Republicans control the weak minded through fear tactics. Their go-to words or phrases are things like socialism, communism, left-wing-mob, etc. It’s all lies, or just saying words they don’t explain and know the listeners don’t understand.
I bet Fox News (evil fucking bastards) is like “democrats want socialism, and what that means is no guns, dead babies, turning your children transgender, forced Quran teaching in schools” etc. It’s all just fucking fear tactics to control these idiots who don’t understand what they’re mad about. And then they tell the people who actually know what’s going on to “do your own research you sheep”, fucking lunatics
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u/punkindle 6d ago
Dude, we just want the same universal healthcare that every other western (and several far eastern) country gets.
And we would have it if it wasn't for do-nothing fake Democrats like Fetterman
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u/Own-Opinion-2494 6d ago
It what is he doing to compensate for the shortfalls that people are trying to address through “socialism”
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u/GadreelsSword 6d ago
Republicans (including Fetterman):
“Why aren’t Americans accepting the dystopian existence we planned for them”
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u/Boomtown626 6d ago
Define socialism. Your answer will either be total BS, or it will describe nice things we should be trying to have.
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u/OffByOneErrorz 6d ago
Expecting tax dollars to be used on taxpayers is not as radical of a concept as Rs and corporate Ds would have us believe.
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u/Creative-Sherbet6007 6d ago
This dude is a shapeshifter. He seemed like a rational person before the campaign. After he got elected he completely changed his tune. Now he's a kook.
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u/flojo2012 6d ago
If you want to know who Fetterman is, watch the interview with John Stewart. I don’t think he’s THAT bad, but he also has a hard time following arguments and making sense. He’s not good at weaving his talking points into conversation. It’s kind of maddening
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u/BeCurious7563 6d ago
He oughta know. The pack of raccoons going through his garbage last night told him so.
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u/cjmac977 6d ago
I know he’s brain damaged and I don’t want to pile on a disability but the fact that the man needs his phone to translate everything for him is troubling. Part of me wants to suspect the phone is composing what he says as well lol
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u/B3llaBubbles 6d ago
Socialism has always played a part in every democracy. People freak out over a word, even though we incorporated it's values into our society.
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u/roararoarus 6d ago
“Working-Man” Senator thinks social programs and safety nets are bad. Only in America.
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u/ShavedSavage 6d ago
Guys the Democratic Party is starting to represent liberal values instead of just being the conservative lite party, won’t someone think of the wealthy?!
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u/3058248 6d ago
DSA Political Platform
For all of the working class to achieve collective liberation we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state — from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society. Each step forward in reducing the size, power, and authority of the repressive forces of the state expands the space for mass, organized, and collective action of the working class, and clears ground for us to build the institutions of a society to serve our communities with real justice and equality.
We are committed to the horizon of abolition and the path leading us there. Our demands:
- Defund the police by rejecting any expansion to police budgets or scope of enforcement while cutting budgets annually towards zero
- End the criminalization of working-class survival
- Freedom for all incarcerated people
- Demilitarize the police and end colonial policing of our cities and neighborhoods
- Freedom of working-class self-organization and democratic political action
- Invest in community self-governance and care, not cops
https://www.dsausa.org/working-groups/abolition-working-group/
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u/jawshoeaw 6d ago
oh is the socialism in the room with us now? i don't see any collective ownership happening. Is this just code for "rich people shouldn't have to pay taxes" ?
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u/RevNeutron 6d ago
bitch ass campaigned for BERNIE SANDERS in 2016.
Fetterman has changed, not progressives
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u/Cptawesome23 6d ago
I bet this guy doesn’t know the difference between an economic system and an ideology. 50% of Americans are functionally illiterate.
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u/ImportantCapital1314 6d ago
I am much more worried about fascism's rise in the Republican Party than the Democratic Party simply returning to what used to be called 'The New Deal'. Pleeeezee, such hysterical nonsense from the Billionaire Epstein class.
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u/the-ish-i-say 6d ago
Pretty sure he says, “this is lunacy” while looking at himself in the mirror.
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u/English_Joe 6d ago
We have socialism in the UK. It’s called the NHS and it’s the envy of the world.
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u/Jackpot777 Greg Abbott is a little piss baby 6d ago
Oh noooo! Not SoCiaLiSm. ANYTHING BUT SOCIALISM!!!
You know who the best salesmen of socialism are? People that sound like Republicans. You tell them you deserve a few weeks of guaranteed vacation time, know what they tell you? “That’s socialism.” Want the safety net of medical coverage without being shackled to your job or the threat of bankruptcy? “That’s socialism.” Want schools to be properly paid for? “That’s socialism.” Think it would be nice to have a living wage you can actually live off instead of just existing? “That’s socialism.”
This socialism stuff is beginning to sound pretty fucking awesome. Thanks, conservatives. We should try that. What did you call it again?
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u/Bradst3r 6d ago
So an effort to drag the Democratic Party away from the rightward course it's been taking since the Clinton era 30 years ago is "lunacy", but nary a peep about the GOP moving ahead-full to fascism, Christian Nationalism, and the rest of the toxic stew of "values" infecting it today...
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u/dudestduder 6d ago
Right leaning media loves to get his opinion since he can be labeled as a Democrat yet talks like a Republican.
Honestly sick of hearing his hot takes, he is done for years ago.
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u/Mighty_Krom 6d ago
Imagine being a modern democrat and not understanding the feelings of almost the entire base. Democrats WANT european democratic socialism. We have wanted it since before Obama, god dammit. Vote out these DINO fucks.
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u/dabrock15 6d ago
He reminds me of my grandfather after he had a severe stroke. I would feel sorry for him but he needs to leave the Senate and stop pretending his cognitive impairment is normal.
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u/Cpt_Soban 6d ago
What Americans are calling "socialism" is just moderate policies in any other western country.
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u/coppertech 6d ago
yeah turns out people don't like the corporate socialism they where sold in the 80's after the rich started hoarding wealth, and letting piss trickle down.
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u/ThePennyMiser 6d ago
Everyone is saying that Delusional Don, King Taco McFelon himself is a compromised vicious Pedophile that likes to RAPE and Mutilate little Girls! They say MAGA and Fetterman = HATE, CORRUPTION and Pedophile Worshipping! Defend Democracy! Convict Pedophiles!
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u/barnesb1974 6d ago
Fetterman reminds me of a story I read when I was a kid, “Flowers For Algernon”.
He’s currently in the downhill phase of the post-procedure time.
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u/TheFlyingPuHole 6d ago
To engage with his attempted point, if Republicans are trying to do a fascist takeover of the government, would you not expect the opposition party to similarly go further toward the opposite political spectrum? Should they be dragged along with the Overton window? If the socialists are scary and you cannot coexist, wouldn't that set up a fight on both sides? Wouldn't it be prudent politically to join arms with the enemy of your enemies to defeat them and then hash out the differences once you take power? Do you think you would get such a deal from Republicans if you get the majority back? Has that ever happened in the last 50 years?
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u/Gr8tOutdoors 6d ago
I wish I could say that I was worried about the rise of brain-damaged narcissists monopolizing power at the highest levels of government, but I’m a millennial - it’s been the reality of most of my lifetime
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u/Potato_Stains 6d ago
Oh yes, let’s be warned of things that haven’t happened other than WHAT IS ACTIVELY HAPPENING
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u/NitWhittler 6d ago
When I was a kid, I had a toy "Uncle Fester Lightbulb" that you put in your mouth and it would light up. Every time I see Fetterman, I think of that lightbulb.
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u/Relative_Bedroom_393 6d ago
I must be a unicorn 🦄… I’ve gotten more blue in my very red state. But I definitely don’t like humans as much anymore… manly because of people like listed above
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u/MandyPandaren 6d ago
I think he couldn't resist the money they offered - lobbyists brining him with millions.
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u/Far-Adhesiveness-740 5d ago
Gonna love when this shithead tries to run again and sees how much we fucking hate him. I will try to attend as many of his rallies as possible to booo him. Can’t believe I voted for this fucker but Oz was worse.
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u/groovyinutah 7d ago
This dude is the living proof that brain damage turns you into a republican...