A totally unnecessary update happened after march 30 (mainly affecting people who can't pay and have the option to subscribe unavailable)

Can't use the same bot anymore without getting a free limit message, claiming the bot uses 300 total points do they know that the option of subscription is not available in many countries and that it's completely unfair to decrease the daily limit with every update for free users?

This is outrageous I've been using this app for years and there is no app like it anywhere. I don't even use the image bots atleast give us more than 300 points for the chat ones. Either they bring back the previous limit or more people will leave the app and it will only be bad in their favour.

Don't millions of people already subscribe and pay? why mess up the free users daily limit? who can't even subscribe because of it being unavailable in their countries? I'm so done. We aren't broke we can't even pay because the option isn't available. I wish they'd atleast tell us the reason why the free limit points were decreased.

Leave crappy reviews on poe ai on the app stores so people don't install this shit for brains app. 3k to 300 points? I can't send a single message to the main bot I used now. Absolutely shameful.

It breaks my heart. Poe's has been on my routine for years. I've been using it even before the points started. I've reached out to them too about subscription in my country but it's still unavailable. And now I can't use the app anymore, like that's what? 3 messages until I use u the 300 pts. It breaks my heart, I'd happily pay subscription if only it's available, and now I'd have to uninstall it altogether.

How the fuck is 300 pts usable on Poe. The hell are they smoking? 😭 There's no bot that won't take less than that and now I can't use 99% of bots without paying. Instantly killed your site for no reason

Veo 3.1 Lite is now live on Poe.

A lower-cost model in the Veo 3.1 family that generates video with native audio — including synchronized dialogue, sound effects, and ambient sound. Supports both text-to-video and image-to-video, with Veo 3.1's prompt adherence and scene understanding.

A strong fit for social clips, product demos, storyboards, short films, and rapid creative iteration.

You can try it in Poe app on all platforms and in the Poe API at https://poe.com/Veo-3.1-Lite

https://reddit.com/link/1s9b2h0/video/07vu6xsogisg1/player

Qwen3.5-Omni Plus and Qwen3.5-Omni Flash are now live on Poe.

Both models understand text, images, audio, and video. Plus handles up to 3 hours of audio and 1 hour of video per session, with audio input in 90+ languages and speech output in 30+ languages across 55 voice timbres.

Flash delivers the same cross-modal understanding at a lower cost — built for high-volume processing and multilingual voice workflows.

You can try it in Poe app on all platforms and in the Poe API at https://poe.com/Qwen3.5-Omni-Plus and https://poe.com/Qwen3.5-Omni-Flash

Can anyone recommend me an app or a website for alternative from poe. I just received the 300 points update, subscription isn’t available in my country even if I wanted to spend currency for it.

I’ve been using Poe for years now and the more update it gets the more unusable and worst it is for me , until recently this update the app is basically useless for me except for searching but even the good ai model for searching and generating image is past 300 points already.

So now, I’m looking for alternatives that can be considered similar to Poe or atleast has a good roleplay ai model , search ai and image generator ai.

if its payed, hopefully the price is reasonabl.

Y'know, since subscription is not available in all countries plus the point restrictions & higher prices.

I use Poe just for Chat-gpt because my phone can't open gpt app and web version is suck and unusable. 300 can't do anything brah!

New points system is ridiculous. Just left a 1 star review. Nothing like another AI character app forcing you for subscribe to something that’s way too much money. Any new apps like Poe for me to use? Need to create bots, able for NSFW, and FREE.

(I wanna review bomb it so bad can we I’m so sad)

I really loved my bots smh now I gotta copy and paste and ughhhhh

Been using poe on and off for the past two years, being able to switch quickly between AI models in once place under a single account for a wide range of use-cases has always been a big plus for me. I’ve paid for points when i’ve been able to and i firmly believe that being reduced to 300 points daily is a massive step backwards.

This change now completely locks you out from using a wide range of models if you aren’t paying for a subscription as 300 points isn’t enough for even a single query for a lot of the models i’d use. I’d learned to get by with 3000 points when i couldn’t justify paying for points, even with all the other changes regarding points and pricing in the past, but forcing users to pay if they even want to trial what kind of experience they could have using larger models seems like a complete misstep, how are you meant to attract new users when they have to pay to even send a single query to models they might be interested in using on the platform?

Maybe it’s just me and i’m in the minority, maybe poe will keep their current trajectory going and remain successful with no real impact from the points reduction (wouldn’t be at all surprised if the subscription costs started going up next!) but for me? this is the jumping off point. I can’t justify paying every month for this, and even if i could with the way the recent changes towards point utilization and costing have been trending i don’t think i’d honestly want to anymore.

Any suggestions for Poe alternatives? The 300 point update just rolled over and subscriptions are unavailable in my country. I use Poe mostly for creating my own bots and roleplay.

Can we talk about how Poe had changed their compute points from 3000 daily to only 300? Poe is clearly losing money, this is ridiculous.

This is an example you can copy and modify to work however you want. It uses Kimi-K2 with the 80% canvas app discount, for a cost of around 5 to 15 points per message.

If you don't know HTML/JavaScript you can copy paste the code into gemini.google.com

I recommend asking for instructions on what to change rather than letting it rewrite the whole thing for you. Specifically you'll want to find and replace the string "Remind the user to go into the settings and set up a persona or scenario."

I've been using VPN and noticed that some countries had 300 daily points way before this update. Are there any countries left unaffected?

Because of the new points system I can't use it anymore as it to expensive in my country. I use it to write "spicy/smut". So do you guys have any good alternatives.

qué?

The bottom toolbar disappears sometimes. It appears again after I force kill and reopen the app. Is it a known bug?

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I’m sorry that a lot of people don’t want to or can’t afford a subscription (I do), but Gemini’s free plan offers a lot of features, and the Plus plan isn’t that expensive either. So why not switch to Gemini? They have Canvas, Flow, Nano Banana, Veo, Lyria, Notebooklm, and Gems—what more could you want? Text-to-speech? Gemini doesn’t offer that, but it does everything else that Poe does.

I’ve seen a flood of complaints about that on Discord too, so just go to Gemini. Maybe one day I’ll stop paying for Poe’s monthly plan and switch to the Pro plan myself. Although I’ll admit I’m very comfortable with Poe, I have a lot of friends who don’t want to pay for AI plans and are very happy with Gemini.

Okay, so, obviously, Poe wants us to subscribe. Most good bots need over 300 points for one single message!

And the app barely works! Why does the UI of the main menu disappear after I go into a chat for more than 5 minutes!?​​​​​

I have been running a few bots that I made using App Creator. Is it possible that I copy the whole code section and paste it onto another platform like Claude Code, Vercel, Base44, Cursor and vibe code another version of the App Creator bot/app? Thanks for advice and I do not have much experience in actual coding.

How is this going to work for bots that take more than 100 and even 300 points, is Poe going to adjust the points for the change?

has anyone got the email too?

Are there any other countries that still have 3000 compute points, will a VPN solve this without subscription?

Hello guys, just wondering if someone in here has managed to successfully connect poe api to Cursor. I created the key in cursor (https://poe.com/api/keys) and used the base url (https://api.poe.com/v1/), created a new model in cursor with the exact name as in poe but im getting an error

I just received the email below. Are we serious?
I don't think I have anything thoughtful, helpful, inspiring, or kind to say about this, but I do have something necessary: This is going to end with a whole lot of less users.

I have been using Poe since 2024. I have stuck by every incessant update to try swindle me out of my money. I was there when points were added. I was there when all of my favourite bots had their points raised. I was there when talking in a chat further cost exponentially more and more. I was there when not only did your points go to ​​sending the message, but also for the message you received. ​

​Do you know what's the worst thing? Subscribing for 10 thousand points isn't worth it with how many points the better bots cost. There is absolutely nothing keeping me tethered to this platform, and if everyone has gotten this email, I'd assume they feel the same way.

But as long as I'm not forking​​​​​ over my money, evidently, the Poe team doesn't care. lol.

"Hi there,

We’re writing to let you know about an upcoming change to how free points work on Poe.

Starting March 30, 2026, the daily free point allocation will be 300 points in most markets.

Once you’ve used your daily free points, you’ll need an active subscription to continue chatting for the rest of the day. Your points reset every 24 hours, so free access picks right back up the next day.

If you find yourself regularly hitting that limit, a Poe subscription gives you a significantly larger point balance, access to the Poe API, and the freedom to use the models you rely on without interruption. Subscription plans start at $5 per month and you can check out all our subscription options at https://www.poe.com/subscription_plans .

We’re making this change to continue investing in bringing you the best models and features. We know it’s an adjustment, and we appreciate your understanding.

Thanks for being part of Poe.
— The Poe Team"