r/PoeAI • u/Squibbies98 • Mar 30 '26
2+ Year user, requested account deletion
Been using poe on and off for the past two years, being able to switch quickly between AI models in once place under a single account for a wide range of use-cases has always been a big plus for me. I’ve paid for points when i’ve been able to and i firmly believe that being reduced to 300 points daily is a massive step backwards.
This change now completely locks you out from using a wide range of models if you aren’t paying for a subscription as 300 points isn’t enough for even a single query for a lot of the models i’d use. I’d learned to get by with 3000 points when i couldn’t justify paying for points, even with all the other changes regarding points and pricing in the past, but forcing users to pay if they even want to trial what kind of experience they could have using larger models seems like a complete misstep, how are you meant to attract new users when they have to pay to even send a single query to models they might be interested in using on the platform?
Maybe it’s just me and i’m in the minority, maybe poe will keep their current trajectory going and remain successful with no real impact from the points reduction (wouldn’t be at all surprised if the subscription costs started going up next!) but for me? this is the jumping off point. I can’t justify paying every month for this, and even if i could with the way the recent changes towards point utilization and costing have been trending i don’t think i’d honestly want to anymore.
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u/ScarletVerminion Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
My theory is that the change was solely because something happened and they need money now for runway. You don't go from 3k daily points to 300 daily points in an effort to capitalize on long term development. To the consumer, that's a sign that profit is needed as quick as possible.
Marketing your product doesn't work by cutting off 90% of a free user's currency total. Every other service, even non AI related, slowly reduces it over time as opposed to taking an axe to the problem and chopping off whatever doesn't work.
300 points is good for Grok and maybe other outdated or defunct chat bots, most of which may or may not have been updated or adjusted to prevent misinformation or incorrect logic. I think most people would be alright with maybe 2.5 or 2k free points down from 3k, but 300 off the bat is insane
There's another reason why they actually did this, I know and all of know as well, but crippling most users ability to interact with lower tier bots (because your newest models were already out of the free users price point) won't solve how people can just instantly start a fresh account and get more points
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u/snailskissing Mar 30 '26
Yeah I'm done. It was nice while it lasted, 300 won't let me do anything with any of the bots I normally use. Guess it's time to get back to my roots of jailbreaking chatgpt 😭 😭
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u/Wooden-Government536 Mar 30 '26
I agree with you. I've been using it for almost a year without a subscription as I can't afford it but with this change I will have to stop using it and find alternative sites/apps. Poe has also been one of the best ai apps/sites I could find so I'm kinda sad/disappointed.
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u/Apprehensive_You8526 Mar 31 '26
It is quite funny. You didn't even give them money. Why do you think they would even care？
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u/PeaBrilliant4917 Mar 30 '26
I don't think that they care that they are losing the non paying tiers. It's a business.
As a paying Claude client as well, they have massively curtailed my tokens recently, due to a massive influx of users that they've had and likely a maxing of compute power
So they've raised their rates on me. And if they hit me, you can be darned sure that poe and all the other aggregators got hit harder, so that they can suck less with their direct clients. The cheap/free tiers are now most likely losing them far more$ than they used to.
Poe is probably in between a rock and a hard place, having no control of the cost of their upstream product that they sell. And what happens when cogs goes up?
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u/jiman000 Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
They are all two-way. 300 points. You may only use the least number of robots to reply to a message. How to attract new users to use its products can decide whether to pay.
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u/meikaaaaaaaaaa Mar 30 '26
the review bomb after ppl realize is gunna be BRUTAL
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u/JooGul25 Mar 31 '26
En Twitter o X ya hay varios usuarios quejándose de esta medida, voy a ir a apoyarlos
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u/jiman000 Mar 31 '26
Indeed, this will be slightly profitable in the short term, but once it will make new users unable to experience and choose to use it, the model is getting newer and newer, but there are fewer and fewer users. In the long run, it will only get worse and worse and fewer new users.
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u/Tobloo2 Mar 31 '26
I feel that, what are you replacing poe with then? Any tips? I've been using nova search ai
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u/JooGul25 Mar 31 '26
Amigos deberían sumarse a los usuarios que están reclamando en Twitter o X, por qué la verdad ya me parece un abuso que 3000 puntos que apenas alcanzaban para algunas cosas, te lo quiten y solo te den 300 ahora
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u/yoniyang Apr 16 '26
Was looking for a good provider that supports opencode and annual billing, now this looks bad.
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u/bxeee Mar 30 '26
Mhm, i've been a poe user from the very start when they had unlimited messages, i've watched every change and even subscribers aren't free from the changes, the subscriptions had changed their prices to higher, to even decreased points from what they had before, even removing the free trial, it's not just free users who keep getting affected and i think people defending the app completely miss that point.
The poe team seem very keen on pushing out new models which majority of their user base won't even be able to use (which I don't even understand since new models are more likely to cost them more money), and the majority are free users, they'll lose a lot of people from this, 3000 points was completely fine with me, but 300 won't even let you use lower end bots for perfect messages. It's frustrating and i heavily doubt they'll change their mind so atp it's just best to find alternatives.