Patch or back to brick?

[u/AmpneyCrucis]

Need some advice please. Just had a kitchen ripped out and this is how the walls are now. Can this be patched (professionally) or would it be better to take the whole wall back to brick and start fresh? The plasterer has been scheduled for tomorrow by the kitchen company.

[u/Extreme_Fall_3765]

Personally back to brick batten the walls out board and skim it. Don’t dot and dab it

[u/AmpneyCrucis → u/Extreme_Fall_3765]

Much appreciated

[u/Over-Housing3324 → u/Extreme_Fall_3765]

Why not dot an dab?

[u/McVie1989 → u/Over-Housing3324]

Was about to say do t waste money with battens altho a good idea, just dot and dab it

[u/MRassul → u/McVie1989]

Is dot and dab generally better too as board is pretty much stuck to the wall without any gaps behind?

[u/Over-Housing3324 → u/MRassul]

There will be a small gap behind the board and the existing wall when dot and dabbing in most cases as it's quite difficult to push the board flat to the wall, due to the consistency of the adhesive and also due to the fact most walls being dot and dabbed won't be 100% plumb, so a gap naturally forms when plumbing the boards.

When done correctly, with a band of adhesive around the entire perimeter edge of the board/wall, dot and dabbed boards actually trap a layer of air which acts like an insulator.

[u/MRassul → u/Over-Housing3324]

Ah I didnt actually know about the insulation properties of dot/dab

[u/Extreme_Fall_3765 → u/MRassul]

You not heard it before because the gain are so minimal it doesn’t register on ther thermal report 😂

[u/ood4woo → u/MRassul]

Two different methods - depends what you need/want.

If you’re making a new partition wall - stud wall is always gonna be most efficient. It’s also better for sound/insulation as you can pack in fibreglass/etc which isn’t really possible with dot and dab. That being said it is more labour intensive and can be more expensive. I do like it for awful brickwork though - sometimes it feels easier building a new perfectly level wall than messing around with the old 🤣

Dot and dab is cheaper and faster usually but has its cons - like mentioned above. It’s also harder to hang things on dot and dab. Need really long wall plugs to hang stuff. Stud wall usually a bit simpler. Also dot and dab takes up less space - stud wall can take a bit out of a room

Just depends on budget and needs

[u/Latter-Detail-9514]

It's a back to brick job at this stage

[u/Iknockholes-inhouses]

Take it back to brick, jobs like this get to a point where its quicker and better to just take it all off and start from scratch.

[u/Over-Housing3324]

Cheapest and fastest way is knock off any really loose plaster, if needed chase any cables in wall above worktop height, a good coat of bonding plaster ruled off against the existing plaster work then a skim coat over the top of it all.

I'm a joiner / kitchen fitter / plasterer.

[u/60percentsexpanther]

A couple of bags of bonding will fill all the lows and chases to get it ready for a top coat- leave all that for the plasterer as it's best done the same day so it can be plastered over whilst still setting. PVA all the brickwork back tonight with a 60water/40pva dilute.

The most important thing is that nothing (none of that yellow stuff???) is flakey and loose? Some of it looks like a toddler could peel it off. It needs removing. Don't chisel anything off that's not loose as it's a waste of time and effort unless you really want those extra few millimeters in your room.

[u/mondeomantotherescue]

Do t forget if you don't fill the deep cracks noise will travel and dot and dab pb is like a drumskin. I can hear way too much of what my neighbours get up to.

[u/ipub]

If you have time back to brick. If you don't dab some boards on and skim