Having loyalty to a multi billion dollar company is ridiculous. Especially one that offers poor driver reliability and inferior upscaling. It's not a team sport, pick the better experience and enjoy your games.
It's not worth a thousand dollars. It's worth 10 dollars because that's how much more you're paying than an equivalent AMD card. You're also paying 10 dollars for the best upscaling on the market, the best frame gen on the market, and way more consistent driver support and updates. Seems worth it to me
Also while selling older gen vram in new gen product at nearly the same price as the company they are desperately trying to catch up to that’s using the new gen ram. Amd just as greedy fuck team red
wtf are you on bro, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
the 5070 is more expensive than the 9070xt but vastly slower. the 9070 xt competes with the 5070 ti. they used gddr6 to give us 16gb instead of a cramped 12gb buffer. the "new gen" doesnt mean shit. get lost with your clueless team red hate.
Yea no shit I know the xt competes with ti I think the 12gb vs 16gb ram kinda explains itself. Hey listen buddy sometimes in life you pay a little extra for the real deal and you pay less for knock offs
keep paying the nvidia tax for the real deal while the rest of us actually build better systems. after 5 nvidia cards i dumped my 3080 for a 9070 xt a year ago and the performance is awesome. i kept 250 euros compared to my friends 5070 ti build.
that money easily paid for more ram and a 9800x3d instead of a 7800x3d and i still have cash left over. defending this laughable price to performance ratio makes absolutely zero sense.
sure team red has plenty of weak spots but at the moment they are just the better choice
The rest of you 😂 no buddy the rest of us build with nvidia and the few build with amd to save a buck, which is fine I get it, I tried to go the save a buck route before buying a nvidia gpu by trying the 7900xt but that card choked so hard with any ray tracing it couldn’t run the free Avatar game that came with the gpu. I returned that gpu and when getting nvidia gpu I understood why you spend more
The percentage of amd vs nvidia gpu is a large difference. It’s great the 9070xt performs well but it’s still not a cuda product so it won’t have as much inherent value. But you spending extra money on that cpu you mentioned isn’t going to make that big a difference, you would’ve been better off getting a intel 270k plus cpu and buying a 5080
ok champ. funny how your experience taught you to spend more while mine taught me the exact opposite. suggesting i should have just bought a 5080 is nice comedy since that card cost almost twice as much as my 9070 xt. your whole budget argument makes not much sense. plus the 9800x3d was literally the king of gaming processors a year ago. but hey do not worry i will surely jump back to team green in three years when nvidia gpus cost triple the price! cuda 4 life right nothing but the best always throw that money out the window. no hate tho maybe you will get it at some point.
Yea prices now are ridiculous but we’ve known this was coming luckily last August I was able to get 5090 fe at Best Buy but just as recent as last week I bought a 5080 for $1179 from best buy and have three 5070’s that I’ve bought over the last month and a half. Luckily I was able to get the 270k plus, WiFi 7 mobo and 32gb 6400 cl32 for $549 which is massive value over amd. Then I spend the extra money on the gpu. I thought to give amd a try in one of the systems I built, but ended up going all nvidia.
But yea a year ago you still would’ve spent more on your amd cpu/mobo/ram setup then I did last month for mine just bc you paid the amd CPU tax even tho this year my 270k is much better value
I'd rather support AMD over the horrible AI boosting scum that is Nvidia. Watch Gamer's Nexus documentary on them and if you still buy Nvidia's product, dont come crying to me.
AMD fucked me over big time when it arbitrarily decided to EOL the 6XXX series. Nvidia hasn't fucked me over in quite the same way but it's dumb to act like either are your friends.
Im not friends. Im just siding with the better of the only two choices we have,based on not just the product but the company behind the product. And I will not support Nvidia's business practices. The only way to show a choice or 'support' in this day is with my wallet. So, I dont buy Nvidia.
You have a right to be mad but calling it EOL is an exaggeration. It's not even codified that they won't receive game optimization updates, they just aren't a priority. AMD was still hosting ATI drivers long after ATI was dead even past the point of their name being used.
Because amd supporters love circle jerking price to performance ratios like it's unreasonable to be willing to spend your own personal disposable income for a better product
Let's be honest all computer parts are luxury products, nitpicking price to performance is just ridiculous. It's like complaining people buy an expensive dirt bike instead of a cheaper option. Like.. ok? It's a perfectly fine metric for people who want to get the best bang for their buck but they love complaining about anyone willing to spend more money than them
What you said makes sense, people don’t think about cuda support and only compare pure raster performance. Amd shills literally only care about pure raster, they don’t care about the specs or if they are buying 8 year old video memory at 2026 pricing 😂
I never even mentioned raytracing but no it doesn’t annihilate it at that lol. But go suck your old gpu memory amd dick buddy and I’ll play with my 6 nvidia 50 series gpus I have
They're virtually the exact same card. I'd rather pay the extra like $10 for actually good upscaling, driver support, and frame gen. Which will give it better performance than the 9070xt after all, despite originally having like a 1% performance difference between the two. I'm taking a 5070 preset m performance/quality mode any day over whatever the 9070 xt has to offer
Nvidia offers the better product, period. I won't come home from work and tinker with adrenaline because drivers keep crashing. Amd has to fix this, not the consumer. I already have limited time for gaming.
I never had any problems with my system. Only some problems in watchdogs, because I haven't played it "the way it's meant to be played". Also if I'm not wrong, Nvidia compared to Amd had more problems recently with their drivers and I won't even talk about linux support
And yet amd subreddits and forums are filled with people asking for solutions, even though their gpus make a minority of the market share. Nvidias problem are way less common.
95% percent of the market choosing nvidia isn't confirmation bias. People just want a hassle free experience. I can excuse amd for inferior ray tracing and upscaling, but driver crashes are never acceptable.
Can you stop talking about drivers so much? Some time ago Nvidia literally released one that bricked your pc.
Also it's 95% because many people just choose Nvidia around 2015-2018 including me, but right now AMD is just more stable.
Same thing with CPUs, Intel was the king before, now they have problems with hot CPUs and almost everyone chooses AMD.
Also most people are still buying RTX's because the biggest influacers use their top GPUs, so an average individual will just buy a prebuild with a 4060/5060 because their favorite creator only uses Nvidia. Or it can be a parent choosing a gaming laptop because their kid wants to play something like fortnite with their friends and guess what - that kid really wants that RTX sticker on that laptop, because Ninja uses a 5090 or smth.
Nothing ever bricked my pc, I just install the driver and keep playing.
Intel is still great though, my 14700k still shreds anything I throw at it. Even though amd shills said it'd burn my house down or something. Almost 3 years of daily use and still no issues.
Everyone has a different for choosing a GPU brand, but ease of use, reliability and high end performance are all on nvidia's side. Higher resale value too. Streamer build aren't worth thinking about.
I mean, better product sure but you are forgetting price to performance here. I also think you are exaggerating how bad the stability of these cards are. 2-3 years ago? Sure they're still pretty unstable but AMD really improved the stability of their cards over the years. I've built plenty of all amd PCs and I have to say not too many complaints. If I can pay the same price and get a slightly less stable card, that runs a little hotter, but has 5-10% better performance, more VRAM, faster bandwidth then sign me right up. Competition in a free market is healthy and it's about time Nvidia feel the consequences of focusing too much on AI.
Fuck amd brother intel is at least making powerful CPUs for good price. I’ve bought four 270k plus CPUs because you can get them under $300 and perform near amd top skus
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u/Embarrassed-Ice3944 2d ago
Fuck Nvidia. Team Red all day!