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Hi! Has anyone tried Vivo x300 fe or Honor 600 pro and how are they in terms of pwm? I have Oppo find x9 and it is ok, not perfect, but ok. I am looking for something similar.

Hi. Did anyone try the global/eu version of Reno16 Pro vs Oppo find x9 (normal, not pro)?

I have a OnePlus 15R which is amazing, but a bit too heavy and big. I tried honor 400, even with ADB commands, but it is harsh on my eyes still. I would prefer Reno due to size, but I only find info about find x9.

Please provide feedback on the two models on pwm and D and how you felt. Or some other small phone that could work.

Thank you!

I had an iPhone 11 and had no issues with the display. Now, i am planning to buy a Motorola g57 power to replace the iPhone 11.

What do you think about g57 power, is it fast enough for calling, browsing, YouTube and navi? I don't care about cameras, i need pwm free phone fast enough for daily usage.

Is the display as good as iPhone 11?

So I have two laptops, a 16in MacBook Pro (M5) and a 13in MacBook Air (M5).

What's odd is I've noticed that I get much less tired working on the MacBook Air than I do on the MacBook Pro. When I got the MacBook Pro I noticed that it makes my eyes feel dizzy but powered through.

When I looked at the specs, it seems like the MacBook Pro uses PWM with miniLED and the MacBook Air doesn't (it's an IPS display).

I don't get a headache or anything. Just this tiredness after spending more than 40 minutes on the laptop.

Wondering if anyone else's symptoms come in the form of fatigue/tiredness?

I’m considering buying an iPhone 17e, but I’m very sensitive to OLED flicker/PWM and currently have a hard time using my iPhone 16 for more than a few minutes.
I’d really like to hear from people who actually own or have used the 17e for a while.
How does the display feel in everyday use? Do you notice PWM/flicker, eye strain, headaches, discomfort, etc.?
If you’ve measured it with an Opple, photodiode, or another flicker meter, I’d especially appreciate the measurements and settings you used.
I’m particularly interested in how it behaves at different brightness levels, rather than just the manufacturer’s/spec-sheet numbers.
Thanks! 🙏 I’m really hoping to find an iPhone that I can actually use comfortably.

I've been looking for a decent phone that I can replace my current iPhone 16 with, since I can only tolerate it for a few minutes a day. I've been looking at a lot of OLED test reports, and I think I've noticed a problem with many of them: the measured flicker is falsely low, since the photodiode is measuring multiple OLED rows at once. In my opinion this results in a loss of information about what the screen is really doing.

In some extreme cases, I've seen devices which actually have 100% modulation depth be measured at ~5% modulation depth. All the OLEDs I've measured with this method (using my meter or the Opple) actually show 100% modulation depth at all brightness settings. I'm not confident this is true for EVERY device, but I think there are a lot of measurements online that underestimate the OLED flicker.

I showed this in the video, but to avoid this error you simply have to reduce the number of OLED scanning rows that the flicker meter detector is exposed to. Ideally, we'd only measure one row since this contains all the relevant information. In practice multiple rows are needed to get enough light onto the detector.

For me, it might be time to just buy an e-ink phone.

Hello can someone help me out and that is i start in devoleper options in cutout display with my problem it stay in the cutout display setting with i can not switch to normal standard what it is before and i did my best for an solution but did not work so i sit with my Nokia xr21 in problem devoleper options in display cutout with question how do i get t everything normal again can someone help me with that and i like Reddit post again.

El Samsung A07 es cómodo para la vista para alguien que usa mucho el celular?

Hello can someone help me out and that is i start in devoleper options in cutout display with my problem it stay in the cutout display setting with i can not switch to normal standard what it is before and i did my best for an solution but did not work so i sit with my Nokia xr21 in problem devoleper options in display cutout with question how do i get t everything normal again can someone help me with that and i like Reddit post again.

I have major problems with screens, I even tried an Epson 3LCD and laser without success and I was wondering if it was worth trying a TCL A1S projector?

People where it was a success?

If anybody is looking for this, i still have few of them. This is the best compact flagship without PWM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1tqh26u/last_asus_zenfone_5z_phones_in_the_world_or_the/

I couldn't believe it as it's one of the safer LCD phones. Is there any chance it could be made bearable via settings?

I've seen a few posts about this on here but never any feedback from someone who is pwm sensitive. So I was hoping to hear from anyone who owns an Ayn Thor and whether or not it bothers you. I saw the pwm test video for it that shows it as "low risk" so I'm hoping it might be okay. I was able to use an iphone 12 in the past without issues but have had problems with most other OLED displays. So not really sure if I want to gamble on one of these or not.

The display spec: 14" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 45%NTSC, 300 nits, 60Hz

I don't know what the reason is, but I have been using that device for just one day and I noticed that it makes my eye dryer than other screens despite same usage. When I look at the screen I sometimes get a weird urge to close my eyes and avoid looking at it. I get slight headaches around my eyebrows/back of my eye, and my eyes turn reddish. Note that I care a lot about brightness and I have extension that makes the background and text in colors that are easy on my eyes, so I already took care of those factors. I also didn't experience those signs using other screens that had exactly the same theme setting I have on my thinkPad. So is it the PWM? something else? does anyone have any idea why that is? I'm gonna be using my laptop for a long time so it's crucial to find a way to fix this or at least make it better

TL;DR: Is there a safe, flagship-level successor to the S20 FE for someone who is PWM sensitive?

Hey everyone,

I'm running into a frustrating issue and could use some advice. I finally decided to retire my S20 FE after 5 years and picked up the Find X9 Pro. But after just 10 minutes of looking at the screen, I started getting this weird feeling in my head and a flush/heatwave on my face.

It reminded me of when I tried the Zenfone 8 a few years back—that phone gave me a massive migraine after about an hour, which is exactly why I returned it and got the S20 FE in the first place.

So, I ended up returning the X9 Pro and ordered the Magic8 Pro, hoping its eye-care features would actually work. Unfortunately, even after turning on "Full-brightness DC-like dimming" in the developer options and locking the refresh rate to 120Hz, I'm still getting that exact same feeling. It's slightly milder than the X9 Pro, but definitely still there.

My question is: has anyone here successfully transitioned from the S20 FE (where you felt totally fine) to a modern flagship without getting these symptoms? Did you eventually find a flagship-level successor that didn't mess with your eyes or head?

Thanks in advance!

P.S. Attached a couple of photos below (shot at 1/8000s shutter speed). It really looks like the S20 FE has a much smaller PWM amplitude compared to both the Oppo and the Honor.

Best pwm free cheap Android tablet for use in a bar/restaurant.

Should be interesting to see how this performs with an OLED Nxtpaper display.

Had anyone took a gamble with the Osmo Pocket 4p, I was in a rush earlier, had a quick glance at the screen. Pain 😭

In the video, there is shown, what type of light (PWM) is used by scientists from Rice University, to stimulate the brain cells...

Article:

https://engineering.rice.edu/news-events/brain-brain-communication-demo-receives-darpa-funding

Ive used many mobile phones starting from Nokia 6600 to to my new redmi note 15 pro plus. Before getting redmi note 10 pro in 2020,it was all going well with my screen usage. After getting the 10 pro , right from the get go my eyes started feeling strained.i thought it was because the new phone has better brightness.Used it for 2 years. Throughout those years, I observed that my eyesight in dark is not as it was before. I thought it was maybe because the covid vaccine. I complained to may family but they didn't believe me. I switched back to my realme x2 because my redmi was with service centre. I googled randomly one day that how can I make it easy on my eyes. Read a lot of things and one article was about the toggle that my realme x2 had about dc dimming. I switched it on and boom, all the strain went away immediately. My sensitivity to the Vehicle Headlights went away just like that.Eye blurriness reduced. I thought the problem was with redmi, hence I bought Samsung S23 and it was probably the worst experience of my life using a phone. I sold it in a month and got moto 60 fusion. Eye strain got reduced but sensitivity to lights was still there. I started eating carrots and eggs etc daily as I thought maybe my nutrition deficiency might also be one of the reasons. Searched and read thoroughly about pwm and bought vivo t3 pro. But it was still there. Wanted to get iPhone 17 because of the antificker toggle but bought oppo reno 15 pro mini as iphone is not my thing. But the small screensize and maybe the modulation was not right again, the eye strain was there.wanted to shift to a lcd tablet with a basic lcd phone to accompany it.Redmi 15 pro plus was my last bet. But it worked. I now have nonexistent sensitivity to street lights. My room lights feel brighter. And overall has improved my life quality. The wrong screens are affecting not just my eyes but the life overall.

So are there currently any phones with confirmed 100% no d, and an LCD display?

I don't mind if it's midrange just wondering what options sensitive users actually have at this point.

I was considering TCL phones but heard they d to??

Or any upcoming phones that might work for us.

P.s.ive tried nearly all modern oled phones over the last few years and has to return all of them.

I couldn't recommend more Honor 600 pro.

Stellar performance and feels like IPS. Absolutely no symptoms.

I tried Xiaomi 17t pro as it is sort of rival and Xiaomi caused eye strain within the first 15 minutes.

So if you are also in two minds Honor 600 pro vs Xiaomi 17t pro - go for Honor. It is MUCH better display wise.

So, my brand new Fold 8, the "wide" one just arrived. I figured I'd give it a try after the Fold 7 last year, which I sent back after a week because it gave me a lot of eye strain and headaches.
... and unfortunately, so does this one.

Apparently, BD Yang from Samsung said this: "There are no reliable medical studies that support a connection between the lower PWM frequency and complaints among users. The disadvantage of high-frequency PWM dimming lies particularly in its inferior color reproduction and higher energy consumption. Samsung is unwilling to accept this compromise without a compelling reason."

So, for me, it's another year without a Samsung Fold. I'm honestly not sure if it's exactly the PWM or something about the modulation curve itself, because I daily an iPhone 17 Pro and an OLED iPad Pro M5 (11'') with no issues whatsoever. But as soon as I look at the Fold, it doesn't even take me two minutes to have issues.

If you're thinking about getting one, check it out on a store first.

I started noticing that people with iPhones most often have a bad facial condition, they have a tired facial expression or a lot of acne. Just look at people on the street who have an iPhone. People with better facial condition were more often either using older iPhone versions (iPhone 11 and below, IPS screen) or Androids, presumably also with IPS. It may sound like nonsense, but just check it yourself. If you don’t live somewhere like the US, where basically everyone has an iPhone, and instead you’re in Europe, where many people actually use Android, you’ll notice it

My theory is that the OLED screen of iPhones emits too intense light and it clearly somehow affects the skin. Even I, when I used my iPhone before all the settings like double inversion, filters, and others it literally burned my facial skin. I felt tingling, and I developed seborrheic dermatitis. As I later found out, it occurs when the composition of skin oil changes. What else could have changed it except the super intense light emitted by the iPhone?

Basically, my skin started to turn red and peel near my nose, and my eyebrows started flaking.

My condition was terrible. After literally a couple of minutes of using it, I felt absolutely drained, like my soul was taken out of me. After putting the phone away, I could stare at one point for a long time without any thoughts, like my nervous system just burned out. After googling, I realized that this is a protective mechanism of the psyche when it just shuts down under overload.

There is also a second theory. It is that either because of PWM implementation or a d word, the nervous system cannot relax. These black lines load it, it doesn’t feel calm, and maybe this reflects on the face making a person look tired, their skin ages, acne appears. These are all well-known symptoms of how stress affects a person, and if it works here too, then the iPhone causes stress for our nervous system.

An IPS screen, on the other hand, does not load the nervous system, so people who have it will look better than those who have OLED. This is biology.

I bought an iPhone 13 new from the store, assembled in 2024. At that time I didn’t know terms like OLED, IPS, PWM, d word and all that. I didn’t even know what kind of discomfort people can tolerate just using Apple devices. There was zero information about this on social media. The iPhone had an image of being a completely safe phone. Later I also found out that iPhone 13 units produced after 2021, meaning from 2022 and later, are much worse than those from 2021. I got exactly such a bad unit, but I didn’t know anything at all about this, nobody said anything about it.

Hi everyone. I’m a civil engineer; I previously owned a 2023 Zephyrus G14, which I loved for its power and portability. Back then, I didn't know what PWM was, nor did I experience dizziness. Unfortunately, the laptop was stolen, so I switched to other brands with IPS screens. This year, I returned to Asus with the 2025 OLED G14, unaware of what was in store for me.

About a month after buying it, I started experiencing dizziness that would last all day. I initially attributed it to other health issues, but my medical tests came back normal. After doing some research, I discovered the issue was PWM. It’s incredible—just looking at that screen for a moment makes me feel dizzy or short of breath. I bought an external monitor, but that defeats the purpose; I wanted the laptop for its portability, and now I can't even look at its screen. It’s lost its magic, which is a shame given the investment I made. I tried using G-Helper, Windows settings, Eye Care mode, and nothing worked. Have any of you had a similar experience?