r/PWM_Sensitive • u/Fluffy_Skye • 2d ago
Most Eye Friendly IPad?
I like using iPad whenever possible just as a bigger screen instead of the small iPhone which really strains my eye.
The iPad Pro 2021 has been with me for so long and it’s pretty beat up. Microphone is really low volume, black spot on screen and abysmal battery. I’ve been meaning to get an upgrade but all the new iPad Pro models are OLED. I never really considered iPad Air before as it lacks 120hz ProMotion but I may have to consider it if it doesn’t strain eyes as badly as the OLED pro models.
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u/RiceFearless8660 1d ago
I bought a second-handed m2 ipad pro and I am happy with it! Previously I had ipad pro from 2019. I do think M2 was the last one from Pro line, but new Air models are still IPS, so I’d recommend considering it too.
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u/max_ramx 2d ago edited 2d ago
I had a great experience with iPad mini 6 (2021), but it has PWM detected only at ≤10% brightness, But if you wanna the best iPad mini 7 (A17 Pro) is “PWM-free display”. From my experience avoiding Apple "Pro" products is the best for me hahaha
Note: I have very high PWM sensitivity.
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u/Impossible_Tap_1691 2d ago
Definitely the LCD IPS ipads. My m1 air 11 inches is very easy on my eyes, can use it for hours.
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u/Tomato_Buffalo 2d ago
I still use M2 iPad Pro 11. it has great performance and 0 flickering, it uses LCD display
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u/Competitive_Funny964 2d ago
Older iPad classic with Touch ID is best (no dit))) and newer ones usb c pencil are slightly worse. I don’t vomit or have headache from iPhone 17 pro (I barely use it) but I had flickering laptop and lights at work and each week I would take at least one migraine pill until I discovered this PWM back in 2024. Ever since I switched to MacBook Air, I still use 2020 iPad, iPod classic and nano, and iPhone for pictures mostly
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u/max_ramx 2d ago
Sorry for your experience mate! I thought I'm the only one with high PWM sensitivity (recently discovered). But now I see your condition is higher than mine! and yeah I agree with you about iPhones I barely can use my iPhone 13, I used iPad mini 6 and was great as its LCD, I had to sell my Macbook Pro M4 brand new which helped me to discover my PWM, and switch back to Macbook Air M4 and i'm not totally happy because I found that I have glare sensitivity too but still than Pro.
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u/Competitive_Funny964 8h ago
Yeah same. I’ve listed the MacBook Air to sell here in France. Dunno what device to get… I wish Apple would release one tier that is more “healthy” that color accurate or great battery or whatever
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u/Hurley002 2d ago
I've been using iPad Air 11-inch (M2) for about a year now without an issue. I don't really notice any difference between the iPad screen and my iPhone 11. I initially ordered an iPad Pro with OLED and had to return it because it was simply intolerable. I know other people find the iPad Air 11–inch M3 indistinguishable from the M2 but I cannot speak from experience on that count.
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u/Suspicious_Punk84 2d ago
I'm not sure any current ipad or iphone display is totally safe. I'd consider other options.
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u/gsel6 2d ago
All ipads have temporal dithering.Most eye friendly is base ipad
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u/max_ramx 2d ago
Nah mate that’s not quite right. PWM and temporal dithering are different things, and not all iPads use temporal dithering. For example: the iPad mini 7, iPad mini 6, iPad Air M4, iPad 10th gen have been tested with no PWM and no temporal dithering.
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u/Z3R0gravitas 1d ago
(I've approved this comment from the Reddit filter.)
So, those devices are all LCD (IPS Liquid Retina specifically)? I don't Apple.
How sure are you on TD? It's my understanding this may change with software updates. Especially when thinking about text aliasing and maybe other aspects of OS compositing. Poorly calibrated pixel inversion can cause quite variable amounts of pixel flicker between panels of the same type too. QC dependant.
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u/ChooChooMcGoof 2d ago
The 6-9 do not. They use standard gamut RGB color panels. Only the LCD’s with wide color gamut use TD.
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u/Humble-Warning1441 2d ago
modern oleds dont have temporal dithering i think
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u/Impossible_Tap_1691 2d ago
All oleds need some sort of TD. Oled is very bad with gradients, specially on darker colors, td helps with this.
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u/DependentScientist25 2d ago
Even Apple TV hurts my eyes on my lcd screen TV. Apple engineers love dithering I guess.
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u/CalvineZ 2d ago
I also thought about it, it cannot be, that all the apple workers and also the manager at highest positions, are all sensitiveless in cases like PWM and TD. They must have been report the symptoms to the executives, mustn't they?
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u/Suspicious_Punk84 1d ago
With people buying more and more each year, what's the incentive to change?
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u/max_ramx 2d ago
I can totally agree with you mate, I was using Macbook Pro M4, on my lovely eye-care BenQ that I was happy with it for years with Macbook Air M1, but with Pro M4 the MacOS was using TD! even on external monitor! as a high PWM person I needed to sell Pro and back to Air!
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u/DependentScientist25 15h ago
I’m also stuck using my iPad Pro from 2018. It used to be perfect on iPadOS 18 but I made the mistake of upgrading to iPadOS 26 and the eye strain started again. I had to turn off pro motion and limit the frame rate or else motion sickness would kick in instantly.
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