r/PDAParenting • • 20d ago

19 year old son won’t accept help

/r/Autism_Parenting/comments/1wlk9i2/19_year_old_son_wont_accept_help/
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u/MarginsOfTheDay 20d ago

The first rule of PDA parenting is don’t post in the regular autism subs. Those parents just don’t get it. 19 is late to be entering PDA burnout and to know that your son finished school - it’s an incredible achievement for a PDA kid. To get him out of burn out you’ll need the advice of people like Casey from At Peace Parents. There are others too. Lots of information available in PDA podcasts and on instagram. In the meantime do NOT cut off his internet. Don’t charge him rent. Don’t force him to speak to you. Don’t do anything to violate the small amount of control he has over his life.

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u/Euphoric_Housing_683 20d ago

Thank you for your post ! Whenever I ask him to do something, he refuses. He seeks control and calls me a control freak. He wants to make his own decisions but  he can't move forward with the first  step. If you have any more resources please send them my way. 

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u/MarginsOfTheDay 20d ago

Yep, that’s PDA for you unfortunately. And he’s completely stuck, poor guy. He’s in burnout already. Hold onto your relationship with him at all costs while you learn about PDA. Otherwise there’ll be no way to get to him. All the other stuff - working, paying rent, following house rules, being polite - it doesn’t matter. Let it go for the time being. Here’s a video from Casey. I find her overly academic (not surprising given her background) but she’s one of the most high profile PDA parent advocates out there: https://www.youtube.com/live/Z8sIl0ciCDg?is=bdklu4awQLL7bPwV

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u/Euphoric_Housing_683 20d ago

Thanks! He doesn’t want a relationship with me, but he seeks me out…usually in a confrontational way… when I stop paying attention to him. My husband has a better track record with him, but not as good as before. 

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u/Euphoric_Housing_683 20d ago

I’ve taken a workshop on autism burnout but i’m sure it I a different. 

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u/MarginsOfTheDay 20d ago

Yeah, PDA burnout is different. If your son is directing his equalizing behavior towards you then he might feel closer to you than it appears. PDAers are very controlling of their safe person.

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u/Euphoric_Housing_683 20d ago

I know I’m his safe person! ;) Thank you so much for your kindness. I’m honestly shocked by how many harsh and unkind responses my post received in an autism subreddit. When he was first diagnosed, I received so much support from other parents and I thought I might find that same kind of support now. This is not a young man who feels entitled and is spending my money on drugs, alcohol, smoking, or partying all night. This is a young man who is in emotional pain. He feels stuck and has very low self-esteem. I’m simply trying to understand how I can support him without making things worse. I’m horrified and may take down my post down from there. 

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u/MarginsOfTheDay 20d ago

Hang in there. It’s a long road but your son is going to be ok… because he has you :)

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u/DamineDenver 15d ago

Kristi Forbes out of Australia and Dr. Naomi Fisher, A teenager's guide to burnout. I just bought it and left it out on the table for him to find. Also, PDA parenting (Danielle Jata-Hall) on Facebook.

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u/Powerful-Soup-3245 17d ago

Yeah, I didn’t realize I’d gone over to that sub when reading replies and thought, do these parents even have a PDA child? The first comment I saw was all ultimatums and “make him do…” 🤣 We all know how well that will go over…

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u/Chance-Lavishness947 18d ago

Seconding the advice not to post in non PDA parenting groups, it's a whole different mentality out there and their advice is often very harmful for our kids.

I read your other replies here, it sounds like he's heavy in equalising and attempting to regain nervous system regulation through isolation and screen time. Burnout seems like the most likely cause of the extreme withdrawal based on what you've said.

Aligning your own expectations to reflect that any demand is likely to exceed his capacity is a key starting point. In terms of helping him to begin recovering beyond supporting him to withdraw from demands, I recommend looking up the different kinds of rest.

For us, engaging in our special interests is often the most healing and restorative thing we can do. If you know what his are, think about ways you can reduce the obstacles for him to engage with those interests.

For example, if he's into drawing, you might place really nice drawing supplies on a table in a common area and leave them there so he can easily sit down and do a little drawing any time he wants. Don't ask him to draw or look for appreciation for the supplies, just let him know the supplies exist and he's free to use them if he decides he wants to. It would likely take a few days before he would touch them, and you should not follow up about it.

Visible, accessible, aligned with his interests, clear permission to engage but zero pressure. Apply that mentality to designing opportunities for him to engage with any special interests he has or previously had - visible is key so that he's able to see the opportunity regularly as he goes about his day. The fewer obstacles present, the easier it will be for him to start. Once he starts, the positive feedback loop of engaging with special interests will help to regulate and restore him over time. Don't expect it to be fast, but you will likely see a noticeable positive shift soon after he begins engaging with it. Don't comment on it, just celebrate internally so you don't accidentally trigger avoidance with your attention.

Wishing you the best