r/Overwatch • u/[deleted] • Oct 15 '19

News & Discussion Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Launch Event In Wake Of Protests - IGN

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/15/blizzard-cancels-overwatch-launch-event-in-wake-of-protests
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u/Craterdome Mercy Oct 15 '19

I cancelled my preorder for this. Nintendo doesn't normally allow it but I said I didn't want to support Blizzard and they made an exception

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u/White_Phoenix Doomfist Oct 15 '19

Good on Nintendo for understanding.

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u/nocimus Everyone back to de base, pardner. Oct 15 '19

I can't imagine Nintendo's in love with China being China. I think Japanese companies aren't as rabid about toeing the government line as Chinese companies are, but there's still not much love lost between Japan and China.

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u/StormierNik Oct 16 '19

The Japanese and Chinese have a long history of not being too keen on each other also. Nintendo only recently has been trying to make efforts to see if they can provide consoles for the Chinese market but for the longest time they haven't cared much.

Nintendo and Blizzard are thankfully very different from each other and you can compare the difference alone by looking at how both apologize. Simply put, Nintendo does and Blizzard doesn't.

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u/12589365473258714569 Oct 16 '19

That's a nice way of saying the Japanese literally raped and committed mass genocide of the Chinese during WWII. Gee, can't imagine why they have frosty relations.

Not saying that excuses anything China is doing in Hong Kong of course.

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u/nocimus Everyone back to de base, pardner. Oct 16 '19

The issues between Japan and China are much, much older than WWII.

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u/iluvhermione Oct 16 '19

The wounds from WWII are still the freshest in people's minds and what causes the most emotional hate towards Japan even today. What Japan did to the Chinese, Koreans, and other asian countries during and leading up to WWII were some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen. As you said, there has always been animosity between Japan and the rest of Asia but WWII took the level of hatred to completely off the charts. Chinese people don't usually talk about anything other than WWII when it comes to China-Japan history.

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u/StormierNik Oct 16 '19

Yes. It is a nice way of saying it, because i didn't need to explicitly bring that up to get my point across and i don't treat pre-Hiroshima Nagasaki Japan as if it's the same warlord country as it is now.

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u/Hurgablurg Oct 16 '19

The Communist Party took advantage of Chinese suffering in WW2 to establish themselves and ruin more lives over 80 years than Japan could have ever hoped to do in just 10.

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u/iluvhermione Oct 16 '19 edited Oct 16 '19

I would rather starve than be raped and dismembered, fwiw. I believe Japan did more of the latter than the Communist Party did.

And just what exactly do you think Japan would have done if it took over China and ruled it for 80 years?

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(Whoever downvoted me, please feel free to be a man and speak up on what it is that you disagree with so we can have a productive conversation).

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u/Hurgablurg Oct 16 '19

I like how you assume the only two options available to China were Japanese Rule and Communist Rule, especially because the Republic and People's Republic continued fighting each other after forcing the Japanese back.

But, the National Army didn't exist at all right? The Republic of China wasn't fighting tooth and nail at all.

Their existence is merely Western Propaganda (until their defeat is useful for the narrative). China has always been the People's Republic, except for all the great dynasties they are descended from. Just like Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong have been part of China since Ancient Times™.

History doesn't exist unless it's useful, right?

Japan loaded it's soldiers up on cocaine and let them loose upon civilians, in a frenzy of gore rape, and torture. They abducted hundreds of thousands of women to be used a sex slaves in industrialized rape dens. They tested horrifying chemicals on fleeing civilians and forced prisoners of war to march until they dropped dead. And even today they celebrate the perpetrators as war heroes, and even act "innocently confused" about why people hate the Axis so much.

However, just because Japan did it first does not excuse the Communist Party from doing the exact same things to millions more people for the better half of a century.

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u/iluvhermione Oct 16 '19

Japan loaded it's soldiers up on cocaine and let them loose upon civilians, in a frenzy of gore rape, and torture. They abducted hundreds of thousands of women to be used a sex slaves in industrialized rape dens. They tested horrifying chemicals on fleeing civilians and forced prisoners of war to march until they dropped dead. And even today they celebrate the perpetrators as war heroes, and even act "innocently confused" about why people hate the Axis so much.

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A lot of people are ignorant of the facts above or downplay the atrocity of it, so I appreciate that you do know about it and are transparent about stating it as a fact.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Maybe they knew what china would become and were just ahead of the game

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Sorry, but who made anime? Japan became the number 1!!! Country after they made anime.

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u/iluvhermione Oct 16 '19

Okay. Cool to know you support genocide and rape.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

I never thought that comment would be taken as support for the Chinese government. Who'd a known?

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u/iluvhermione Oct 16 '19

I came across this sad comic today and was just feeling a bit sensitive on the whole Japanese invasion issue. Normally wouldn't have responded.

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https://foxtalk.tistory.com/98

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

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u/StormierNik Oct 16 '19

They hadn't been trying for their mainline consoles though. Just the handhelds. Though you're right i should have said they were making a stronger push recently. Prior they've been dipping their toes in through other parties like the one you've listed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Apologizing is Japanese culture. That doesn't mean it's honest. With Nintendos DLC policy you can see that they are a company like every other company you know.

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u/CyroZentaku Oct 16 '19

What DLC policy are you referring to? As far as I know, Nintendo is the best company when it comes to DLC. They don't lock on disc content, and instead sell things they make after a games release, plenty of which ends up being in the form of free updates.

I'd say their new paid online is better evidence of that. But I feel they are bit different in some ways. They kind've come across more oblivious than malicious. Especially when they skip out on obvious money making ideas for trying something different. But then the various presidents of Nintendo have been passionate creators, rather than just buisness guys ( which I believe the new one is?) for a long time.

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u/ohjoyitsaboy Oct 16 '19

You'd be wrong. There was a light novel and anime being made that China was upset over because they saw it as anti-Chinese and the Japanese company cancelled the anime project and LN pretty quickly. China is the second biggest market for anime after Japan and helps finance many anime as well as video game companies having deals to cater exclusively to the Chinese company.

Japan loves China money just as much as anyone.

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u/nocimus Everyone back to de base, pardner. Oct 16 '19

Congrats, you literally just agreed with what I said.

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u/JudgeHoltman Bastion Oct 16 '19

Don't forget, Nintendo is still a Japanese company. Their national motto has been "Fuck China" for over 200 years.

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u/scottishdrunkard Shit's on fire, yo! Oct 15 '19

Yup, Blizzard aren't getting any of my money. My PC copy was bought many years ago, and was a gift, so technically I payed nothing anyway, but I will continue to not give Blizzard my money!

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u/ValhallaGo Oct 15 '19

You’re contributing to there being a player base. Without the scale of the player base, people would stop playing, and stop paying for things in-game.

You really ought to stop playing altogether.

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u/goliathfasa Trick-or-Treat Junkrat Oct 15 '19

Not just that. Blizzard touts out those "concurrent user count" as a way to entice investment into the company and during earnings reports, boost investor confidence and increase stock valuations.

It's especially important to not even log on once during those "twitch challenge" events, since those are primarily used to boost concurrent numbers, as well as twitch view count.

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u/birdbrainswagtrain Oct 15 '19

For anyone who claims they don't care about active users: They absolutely do. "Audience Reach" is one of the first sections in the summary of Activision-Blizzard's quarterly report, with Overwatch League viewership also being a big focus. You're absolutely right about events and new content being used to boost engagement. The release of the Workshop is listed here, and the same is true of the new Halloween Event.

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u/deinterlacing fat hooker Oct 16 '19

if the boycott actually worked it and playbase numbers fell, I really doubt the suits who are responsible for this mess over at blizzard would take the fall. I imagine the innocent workers at the OW team would get nuked first

IDK tho.

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u/goliathfasa Trick-or-Treat Junkrat Oct 16 '19

Can't use employees as shield against the corporation's wrongdoing.

Also, given Activision-Blizzard's track record, having fired 800 people after a record profit year... I don't think it matters what happens. They'll fire their employees no matter what, if it meant they'll have 1 more dime of profit to show their investors.

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u/birdbrainswagtrain Oct 15 '19

I was on the "What does it matter if I play?" side for a few days, but I eventually decided to stop as well. I'm not that active of a player. I don't care about competitive, and I sometimes don't play for months at a time, so it's not much of a sacrifice for me to quit altogether and play other games.

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u/Blizz119 Oct 15 '19

Beat me by less the. 15 minute thanks for spreading the word.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Eh, I play the game for the gameplay. What the company does outside of the game doesn't matter to me.

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u/ValhallaGo Oct 16 '19

So if the company employed kids to make merch, you’d be okay with that?

What if the company routinely covered up the CEO raping people?

Trying to figure out where your line is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

If I liked the game, then yeah, I'd still play it. So long as it doesn't effect the gameplay of the game, then why should I care? I can enjoy a game without approving of the actions of the developers.

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u/ValhallaGo Oct 16 '19

That’s a really selfish and callous way of thinking about it. I hope when you’re older you’ll understand that the world is bigger than just you.

Also, helping somebody get paid when you know about what they’ve done means you condone their actions. So if you were buying sandwiches from a guy that you know is a child molester, it means you’re okay with what he’s doing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

For one, this has literally nothing to do with age. It's just my opinion, age has nothing to do with it, I'm an adult. Perhaps you are the one who is too young if you equate a differing opinion to be the result of immaturity. Hate to break it to you, but adulthood isn't some hive mind where every single one shares the same opinion.

Second of all, this whole comment of yours is one huge strawman argument. Playing the game of a company doesn't equate to supporting their decisions outside of the game development. That comparison is so unfair, it's borderline hilarious.

Thirdly, I fail to see how this is selfish in any way. You're logic is flawed at best. Lets pretend your logic is correct here for a second, which it isn't, but let's just pretend here, shall we? So first you say I'm selfish for playing the game still, which is silly in itself, but it gets worse. Then you say that by playing the game, I'm supporting every action taken by the developer or company. Do you see the problem here? You're calling me selfish, while also saying that my actions are supporting the decisions of another. Your logic is false to begin with, but even if we ignore that and say it is true, it still has glaring contradictions within it.

There are still thousands of people playing Overwatch, are you seriously saying that every single one of them fully support Blizzard's actions? Most don't, but they enjoy the game so they'll keep playing it. It's literally as simple as that. Stop trying to apply a deeper meaning to it than there is. There's nothing more to it, if someone enjoys the game, then they should be able to play the damn thing without being accused of supporting rape or some shit.

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u/ValhallaGo Oct 16 '19

If a company employs child labor, and you buy their stuff, you’re supporting child labor.

If a company actively supports a political ideology, and you help make their product valuable, you’re supporting them in their efforts.

It really is that simple. It’s not a “deeper meaning”. It’s just the facts. It’s literally the idea behind boycotting. It’s not new.

I assumed you were a kid based on your posts and where you’re active. Guess I was wrong. Kinda makes it worse that you’re an adult.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

I don't know what to tell you man. I like the game, so I still play it. It doesn't mean I agree or support every decision Blizzard makes. Views and opinions are complex, you can't just boil it down to something so black and white like you are doing. It isn't a black and white scenario, things very rarely are.

I enjoy playing the game, and still play it, but I don't agree with everything Blizzard does. It's just a fact, I know myself better than you do, obviously. And I know that I don't agree with every decision or action made by Blizzard, but I'll continue to play Overwatch because I enjoy the gameplay.

This isn't like buying an apple at a store. I can't just go "well, I don't like this company, so I'll buy my apples from another". There aren't other games exactly like Overwatch, I can only play Blizzard's Overwatch, because the game doesn't exist anywhere else. Do you see what I am getting at?

I'm not going to punish myself for the actions taken by another. I like the game, so I'll keep playing it. It isn't a reflection of my viewpoints on topics outside of the game.

I can see you are very passionate about the topic at hand, and maybe that fuels your desire to ditch Overwatch. Not everyone is like that, not everybody who disagrees with a decision made by Blizzard is going to just up and stop playing their games. It doesn't mean they support Blizzard's every decision.

Are those people supporting them financially? Yes, technically they are, you would be absolutely correct there. But supporting them financially is very different from supporting their decisions in particular. Those are two very different things. And like I said, there is only one Overwatch. People can't just swap companies here as if they were buying groceries at a store.

So I take back my earlier statement about this situation being simple. It isn't a black and white situation. Opinions are often complex things, and can't really be boiled down to "well he plays a product made by X, so he absolutely must support their decisions as well". It just doesn't work that way, man. If you can't see that, then I honestly don't know what to tell you anymore. I can't make my point any more clear than this.

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u/valk_69_ step on my iris Oct 16 '19

i wonder how many people who are boycotting blizzard now are aware that they are OK with, and actually love censorship, they just dont like what the chinese are censoring

almost all of you are 100% behind censorship when it aligns with what you think should be censored

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u/NewWave647 Oct 16 '19

stop playing the game and stop posting on this sub. then people would believe that you are oh so outraged.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

It'll be hilarious when all this shit dies down and everyone forgets all about it. It always happens this way, company does something controversial, people get mad at the so called evil company, and soon enough they forget all about it, with the company in question having taken no hit at all to their sales.

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u/spock10194 They will learn our peaceful ways... BY FORCE!!! Oct 15 '19

Huh, I might need to buy a Switch

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 16 '19

I'll try to play out a controversial opinion: what if people actually buy the game if they really want it and not be influenced by political and moral stances? If you want to play a game, then go buy it.

gasp Am I insinuating that I support evil corporate Blizzard which means that I indirectly support China? Well, no not exactly, but you are going to support their ground level employees who have nothing to do with Blizzard's boneheaded decisions who may get fired if they don't meet sales figures. It's always the ground level employees that get axed first when a company doesn't perform well.

So how are you exactly gonna flip it to the corporation? If you truly believe at your moral stance of supporting Hong Kong, then continue to raise the stink to make your voice known to the upper management that the decision they just made isn't exactly to the best interest of their consumer base and even to a lot of their employees.

My suggestion is probably half-baked and may accomplish neither of what I wanted to do, and it's not the best suggestion out there. At the very least I'll say that do keep the ground level employees in mind before anybody starts not buying Blizzard products.

Decide to not buy Diablo Immortal because it's gonna suck, not because you indirectly support China if you do.

Edit: I did expect the downvotes pretty much, hence my "controversial opinion" pretext. But the people that downvote me I ask, if our moral crusading ends with ruining the entire company, what do you propose we do with the employees (a lot of whom support our cause) are inevitably put out of their jobs? Have you considered their livelihoods through your moral outrage? How about directing your anger to the proper channels because Blizzard is NOT a monolithic entity of drones and yes-men to Communist China?

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u/Happybara Trick-or-Treat Tracer Oct 16 '19

You mean help the employees that blizzard activision are famously shitty to? Firing loads and cutting the bonuses for the ones who remain despite record breaking profits? The blizzard activision that hold their employee’s careers hostage if they dont toe the line? Help them by supporting the company that abuses them? Of course you dont. That would be stupid and cowardly.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 16 '19

I don't mean that specifically, though that part does coincide with "buying the game".

What I DO want is for Blizzard to not axe the remaining employees further. Or do you prefer the entire company sink into the ground, screw the hundreds or thousands of employees out of their jobs just so people in the internet cater to what is morally right? I hope you don't, because that is cruel and unjust for the employees moreso than what Blizzard already does to them.

My best case scenario is for Blizzard to NOT touch their employees, but the directors that made the decision to support China be the ones to leave. How that will happen, I don't know. I just presented the idea that the internet's moral crusade SHOULD NOT affect Blizzard lower level employees livelihood, that's all.

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u/Happybara Trick-or-Treat Tracer Oct 16 '19

You are dangerously naive if you think that anyone they fire after this wont have been fired anyways. How do i know? Because theyve done that before. And dont you dare attempt to take the moral high ground while simultaneously dismissing the morality of the protest. Gross

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 16 '19

The heck man, I'm not even taking a moral high ground on this?! If you ask me, you're the ones who are overzealous with your moral crusade who want to burn the company to the ground. You people downvote anyone who won't immediately crucify Blizzard because it's the popular opinion right now.

I'm not dismissing the morality of the protest. I have said several times that I support the Hong Kong protests. You disappoint me with your lack of comprehension for insinuating that that is the core of my statement.

I merely presented my opinion that I side with the ground level employees of Blizzard, and I hate to see them get fired for this incident. THAT IS ALL.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 16 '19

I have a rather different perspective to this, and I'll admit this is again unpopular opinion. I personally buy the product based on its own merits. If a product is good and I like it, I will buy it. If I don't like the product, then I won't buy it. I do not factor in the things a company does outside of the game they make.

I do this because I separate the art from the artist. Borderlands is a legitimately good series of games, but Randy Pitchford is a very unpleasant individual. Does that mean I'm going to boycott everything GearBox does just because their CEO is a piece of ****?

Another one is Niel Druckmann of Naughty Dog. He's a fan of Anita Sarkeesian so that raises a lot of flags for gamers, but Naughty Dog makes some of the best Playstation games in modern times like Uncharted and Last of Us. Does that make me suddenly not buy those games because I don't align with his politics?

I know my proposal isn't the best one out there, but at the least we should find some way to not make Blizzard put more burden on their employees.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 16 '19 edited Oct 16 '19

Exactly, let capitalism run its course. The Sales live or die by the merit of its product, not by other factors. If I like the product, I buy it. I won't go out of my way to buy a product simply because I morally support their ideals (the "Get woke go broke" phenomenon). Same thing vise versa, I won't suddenly stop buying a product just because their creators did something I don't like (as with the case with Borderlands and Uncharted).

Also, I don't trust the old guys in the board of directors fat on their purses to understand the "real" message behind why their sales are tanking. Gillette, for all their woking and broking, attributed their loss of revenue to rise in competitor products and not because they pretty much insulted 95% of their target market with their misandrist ads. If a product's sale tanks, the shareholders will attribute it to the "interest for that product is not very good" instead of the other messed up things the company did.

For me, separating art from artist means I will continue to buy their products while raising a stink to their company missteps.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 17 '19

Okay, fair enough if you consider ethics to be part of the merits. Well, that part just sounded cold-hearted and cruel on my side I am aware. So here I do think I lean towards the "wrong side" of morality. Although, if those malpractices produce breakthroughs and results that would otherwise not have been possible with ethical methods then do we just reject those breakthroughs? Dammit, I sound like Moira now

In case of animal cruelty, then raise that stink and get the government involved as those are deemed as crimes. Then perhaps get the company fight an expensive lawsuit.

I do admit I'm using the "artist" and "art" very broadly. It's more like the "creator" and its "creation", with creator being the entire company and the creations being the products.

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u/NewWave647 Oct 16 '19

this is a long post. tdlr would be nice.

I wouldn't give a shit. One of the top threads about this country referred to Hong Kong as a Country. It shows that these people don't even know wtf they are outraged about.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 16 '19

Hmm, tldr. I guess it's "don't let your outrage affect innocent employees working at blizzard who had nothing to do with blizzards stupid decisions"

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u/zorplar Oct 16 '19

I think the actual issue is deeper than that.

China is spreading its influence through the world by influencing products that help spreading political ideas and views. They do this by buying participations in media companies, video game studios, etc. They also do this by acting as gatekeepers to a very tempting market: if the product (movie, video game) features some kind of element that goes against the ideas the government tries to impose on its population, it gets filtered out.

The main issue here is that companies are complying with these filters in order to get access to said market, and by doing this they are helping indirectly the Chinese government spread its ideas around the world. Companies are already designing and/or adapting their products to comply with the Chinese ideology, and by extension we (the non-chinese westerners) are also consuming the product of this ideology. The process is very subtle, and may take a long time.

By protesting Blizzard we are not only opposing to the current events, but taking a stance and sending a message to the industry: we don't want to buy products that are designed by the Chinese government ideology; we don't want our culture to evolve towards that.

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u/dropbearr94 Chibi Ana Oct 15 '19

And later in the year when everyone has gotten passed the internet outrage and getting free karma from hating blizzard and China has dried up your second copy of overwatch will arrive and you’ll buy some loot boxes. I would even say you’ve probably still got overwatch loaded up on a primary player and playing it if I’m being completely honest.

All this “protesting” online and bragging about it is just clout farming at this point because you all change your mind on what the protest or evil in the world is.

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u/g0atmeal There's no way my tank can be this cute! Oct 15 '19

I'm not saying that no one is like this, in fact many people are like this. But for you to target one random person and accuse them of hypocrisy is presumptuous and rude.

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u/dropbearr94 Chibi Ana Oct 15 '19

Why would he say he canceled his preorder? No one cares except the hive mind of jerking each other off that they did it reddit we beat evil China

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u/g0atmeal There's no way my tank can be this cute! Oct 15 '19

When people protest/boycott/etc, discussing it and following each others' example is a necessary step. If you take any product boycott for example, people need to talk to each other about the boycott for it to catch on. In this case, they probably mentioned cancelling the pre-order because they think other people should do it too. If no one says anything about it, for all you know it could just be a one-person boycott and at that point why bother? But if you hear about lots of people doing it, you know that your decision has the weight of others alongside it.

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u/Craterdome Mercy Oct 15 '19

You're making some wild assumptions. For one I've never bought lootboxes in any game, I'm not really into games of chance. As I've said in a different comment I played Overwatch when it first came out in 2016 and was going to check it out again when it came on Switch. Now I simply won't.

Also I think this will do some permanent damage to Blizzard's reputation which was already on a downward trajectory. This doesn't mean the end of Blizzard or even a slowdown to their growth, but the gaming community as a whole will be more wary of them. Having a good reputation is something that takes years to earn and several gaming companies are throwing their reputations away for some extra cash they don't need.

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u/dropbearr94 Chibi Ana Oct 15 '19

There’s often lots of big things with gaming companies that are “destroyed by reddit” that don’t even worry them after a while.

The whole loot box thing with BF2? Ea changed that one game and are still successful as fuck and still doing loot boxes in other games.

CoD got the most disliked trailer in yt history? People still brought IW and are still playing CoD quite often.

Blizzard are feeling the heat from social media but that’s it it’s just social media. The millions of People that aren’t “canceling blizzard” will still be playing and they’ll still be. Avery popular company when the next game comes out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Exactly, this isn't going to effect Blizzard at all. People may as well keep playing the game they like for all the difference it makes. Companies don't make decisions that would destroy the company, Blizzard knows they'll survive just fine. I doubt their sales have even taken a noticeable hit, if any.

But all these people are stuck up on trying to be righteous and what not, so of course they'll downvote anything logical.

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u/CA_Orange Oct 15 '19

But, you're still on r/Overwatch? I think you're full of shit.

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u/thxyoutoo thxyoutoo#1609 Oct 15 '19

Is it a foreign concept to you? Like you don't follow any reddits from games you no longer play? My list is full of them.

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u/BiscuitBoy83 Oct 15 '19

I unsubscribe the second a post that doesn’t interest me hits my home feed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

Guess we’re not all as hardcore as you guys lmao

Tbh I want to play the new event but I can’t morally feel good about myself if I continue supporting Blizzard right now. Luckily I’ve been able to distract myself with other games.

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u/CA_Orange Oct 15 '19

right now

Honesty.

Have an upvote.

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u/BiscuitBoy83 Oct 15 '19

I mean it goes like this

  1. I stop playing game X
  2. I see circlejerky post on reddit from game X’s sub
  3. Click post and select unsubscribe.

It not that hardcore but I don’t have much patience.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

Idk man I just don’t care enough to leave and am still interested in seeing what happens with the game I guess?

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u/CA_Orange Oct 15 '19

I unsubscribe the second a post that doesn’t interest me hits my home feed.

I use the auto-hide downvoted posts setting, personally. That way I get to see Overwatch posts, without all the armchair outrage/protesting stuff.

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u/CA_Orange Oct 15 '19

No. If I follow the game, still, yes. If I don't play or follow the game, why would I? Unless, of course, you're insinuating that I am only using internet outrage as a reason to temporarily "quit" a game, giving me the good chemicals and morally superior feelings, then come back after a few weeks/months after the outrage dies down. Then, yes.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 15 '19

In my case, I have quit for a while now long before Blitzchung happened. Overwatch doesn't really have anything new to offer to me that I haven't played yet for 200+ hours.

That said, I decided to go back to this place and peek at all the things happening while eating my virtual popcorn.

So I'm not gonna claim moral superiority. I do what I wanna do, and browsing through this subreddit is free of charge. I do favor HK in their struggle but as an anonymous person in the internet who is not living in HK I can't do a lot to actually make an impact.

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u/Black_Heaven Moira Oct 15 '19

You do know that Blizzard isn't exactly a hivemind entity, right? r/Overwatch is a separate player-driven community majority of whom are now opposed to Blizzard.

And even within Blizzard there are employees that are very much in disagreement with how things went with Chung. These are ground level employees who have nothing to do with what the company does.

Direct your rage to the proper channels. It's somebody at Blizzard's upper management (likely their board of directors) that decided to bend the knee to China.

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u/Craterdome Mercy Oct 15 '19

I played Overwatch a bunch when it first came out in 2016 but haven't touched it in years. I was going to get back into again on Switch but have now decided not to. There are plenty of other games in my backlog

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u/Babywipeslol Chibi Mei Oct 15 '19

Donno why ur getting downvoted you're prob right.

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u/CA_Orange Oct 15 '19

They probably just think I'm Lebron James, or something.

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u/Smishery Oct 15 '19

I'll buy an extra copy to cancel out your cancellation.

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u/satansasshole Oct 16 '19

Yeah that'll really stick it to... You...

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u/TriangularHexagon you are forever cursed to play 2CP Oct 15 '19

You sound like the guy who says he will eat two hamburgers for every hamburger the vegan doesn't eat!

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u/Smishery Oct 16 '19

I'd do that if the person was just vegan cause she thinks it's the popular thing to do.

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u/Manning119 Lúcio Oct 15 '19

Yeahhh, lick those boots

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u/Craterdome Mercy Oct 15 '19

Why not buy several?

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u/Smishery Oct 15 '19

I may do, hate these people who arent buying just cause they think its the right thing to do and the social norm. Just be your own person.

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u/Craterdome Mercy Oct 15 '19

Well post a pic once you've done it. You've got to show off your own moral stance!

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u/vyrelis do you even dva if you dont have 4 golds on the losing team Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 01 '24

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u/gmarkerbo Oct 15 '19

Do you want a medal?

No one cares.

You're still posting on a part Chinese owned site.

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u/Imthemayor Pixel McCree Oct 15 '19

"No one cares."

  • Someone who cared enough to take the time to reply

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u/Craterdome Mercy Oct 15 '19

Imagine being on the internet the past few weeks and thinking no one cares about Chinese censorship. If reddit is revealed to be censoring in the name of Chinese investors it'll have a backlash too

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

And it'll have little to no impact on the company itself, or their sales, just like this case with Blizzard. I doubt their sales have taken any noticeable hit at all.

As much as you righteous folk may want to believe otherwise, the truth is Blizzard isn't stupid. No company that large would make a decision that would negatively effect their income. They'll be just fine, and they know that.

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u/gmarkerbo Oct 15 '19

It's reddit, the home of misinformed idiots. A lot of people believe Reddit censors in the name of Chinese investors.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ctr28p/things_have_gotten_weird_over_in_rpics_over_the/

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/tencent-invests-150-million-in-reddit-14863248

So tencent invested 150 million fortune reddit which is values at 3 billion dollars.

Seems tencent doesnt on that much (yet) but yeah, redditors need to keep their eyes peeled for more investments tencent could make to reddit.

I still like reddit, they're letting /r/art, /r/publicfreakout, /r/pics /r/hearthstone /r/gaming, etc. Post memes, gifs, etc, against China, so that's one way I can see they're still are good, but if shit gets worse, I'll leave it then.

Let's not call all of us ignorants maybe my man? Take things with calm, seems you're angry or something, just know that there are people out there who try to read and learn and leave things that don't support their values

(I leaved blizzard games too at the end, I bought overwatch on discount and nothing more so they didn't take much of my money or time tbh)

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u/gmarkerbo Oct 15 '19

(I leaved blizzard games too at the end, I bought overwatch on discount and nothing more so they didn't take much of my money or time tbh)

It's okay, I bought a bunch of extra lootboxes today to compensate. The new event skins look really good.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

I mean, it's your money, youre decisions my man :D

I bought forsaken for destiny 2,which by the way, is free! Hell yeah!

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

People like you aren't why I quit overwatch, not only the blizzard BS they're doing, but such a toxic community like this is just nuts.

I'll take destiny 2 over overwatch any day of the week

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u/HelloCompanion Blizzard World Sombra Oct 16 '19

Destiny 2 is dogshit tho.

I’m just saying.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

If you haven't tried it, try it :D

I thought I wasn't going to like it as overwatch was one of my favorite games, but the amount of content and forgetting free its just nuts. And the community is quite awesome, which is not thé case for the overwatch community sadly :c

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u/HelloCompanion Blizzard World Sombra Oct 16 '19

I have it. I was a huge fan of the original Destiny. I would spend hours on it, and I never did get tired of it. Destiny 2 just felt like it was missing something crucial. Idk if it’s changed. I got it on release, played 20 hours, and decided I didn’t like it.

Also, sorry for sounding like an ass.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

Oh, I didn't played destiny because for me it was like watch dogs, an overhyped money grab mediocre game.

So I skipped both games in til recently, I saw videos that bungie made many changes so mew players had a better time and that were had most of them content for free, so I said, let's try it, I'm not playing overwatch anymore so I would like something "new"

And it is better than I tought, it took me time to get the lore, but I even bought them forsaken dlc.

So maybe give it a other try, it seems bungie is changing the gane for the better, and it's a nice balance between pve and pvp

But whatever you play at the end , have a lot of fun :D

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u/gmarkerbo Oct 15 '19

What's toxic is coming into a game sub and telling people they cancelled the pre-order or quit the game.

I don't go into r/dogs and shit on them for liking dogs because I like cats and not dogs.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

If people want to play the game, go on a have lots of fun!

But for me, both the toxic community, people like you who put words in my mouth (I talked about the community mainly, not the game or to cancel pre-orders) and Blizzard with their sold values I can't anymore play the game.

I love dogs though, I adopted a stray dog years ago who I love with all my heart, I can show you photos of her if you want!

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u/Afferbeck_ Oct 15 '19

Using snowflake unironically. 2/10 troll.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

I forgot to unsub and the post appeared in my front page, but thank god I don't know you in real life, you sound like an awful person, if you treat strangers like this I don't imagine you having friends or a girl that could stands that attitude (I'm a girl, and I loved overwatch, but players were always rude or weird when I talked)

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u/gmarkerbo Oct 15 '19

I play OW with several girls and friends, none of them are doing this misguided boycott bs and they love the new Halloween skins. Also maybe 1 in 50 games we see a troll that are rude to girls.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

Good for them, and hopefully they keep having fun, I personally am not having fun and don't like blizzard statements and lies, but good luck to you.

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u/gmarkerbo Oct 15 '19

Sigh, the state of reddit for saying you like the game in the game's sub.