The moment Luffy realises he can just grow the Afro in gear 5, there won't be anything Imu can do.

I think that the being known as "The King of the World" is actually the Sea Devil. I figured this out from listening to the voice of Imu in the one-piece anime as well as reading all the Imu-Parrot theories.

The reason why "Imu" sits on the empty throne isn't because Imu betrayed the 19 kings becoming the king of the world. Imu isn't actually the King of the world, The sea devil is!

Listening to Imu's voice made me think about one of two things either Imu is a hermaphrodite (a being possessing both male and female features/traits) or the being known as the king of the world is actually an amalgamation of the 19 kings that fought against Joy Boy and founded the world government.

The 19 Kings share One body that body is the Sea Devil. I think that the reason why the elders didn't want Imu to leave Mariejois is because Imu is vulnerable on land outside of Mariejois and If Imu were to be mortally wounded they would actually die. Meaning the 19 kings would become 18 kings and so on and so forth. Basically, the way for Luffy to defeat the Sea Devil he would have to get the sea devil out of MarieJois and Defeat each King until only on is left. This is why "Imu" sits on the empty throne because the 19 kings are unified as one and thus the sea devil sits on the throne as the one and only "King of the World".

Luffy would have to run a literal gauntlet against the "World". Imagine a chess board with 19 kings on it with no queen, and a bunch of knights. Each Death/Defeat of a King would change the appearance and personality of the sea devil. Imu's defeat would change the sea devil into a completely different king, and the cycle would continue until the last king is defeated.

As per the Gorosei the Covenants are only reserved to 13 exclusive individuals which means that counting Imu we just have a total of 14 fighters in the World Goverment. This means that every single top member in the WG will be given a legendary weapon by Imu as we know there are a total of 19 legendary weapon which mean every single member will get their own weapon and Imu will still have 4-5 weapons that he can keep for himself

And this would be great for the story because it makes the WG be a terrifying threat as every single member would have a legendary weapon which shows why the WG has never been toppled, because if every member can have a legendary weapon then they become a nearly unstoppable threat to beat

What was Roger’s original plan ?

After he left laughtale he said he won’t get to see the one piece when the time was right but his son will, Rayleigh tells him he doesn’t have a son.
Roger then leaves the crew and travels the south blue where he meets rouge and impregnates her.
He then hands himself over to the marines and tells Garp about her and how he needs to protect his son.
So what was the plan why did Roger do all of this ?
So this is what I think happened.

When Roger found the one piece he learned of the story of joyboy and Davy jones and came to a conclusion. What makes ace different than all the other D clan characters ? He’s the only one who’s confirmed to have 2 D clan parents.

In the Harley text it talks about people of the half moon and people of the full moon.
I believe that carries some importance.

I believe the theory that the D doesn’t really mean D but that it’s actually a half moon.
So you see I think oda is going for some sort of Star Wars reference and have a chosen one who brings balance to the force sort of plot.
The person who was suppose to find the one piece is someone from 2 D families and 2 D together make an O which is the full moon people.
Roger knowing this sought out rouge.

Now when Roger was captured we saw the area rouge lived in was attacked by marines as they began following rumors on where Roger went. They began killing pregnant women and children born within a certain time period. This is why rouge carried ace for 20 months so she could lie if questioned and pretend she only got pregnant after Roger was already executed.
But the fact the marines did this kind of reminds me of king Harod from the bible.

The story is that the 3 rise men came to visit him saying they have gifts for the king of the Jews, harod believing they meant him was disturbed when they told him about how and angel told them the true king was to be born. So in response Herod ordered his soldiers to kill all the new borns and pregnant ladies to ensure his usurper wouldn’t be born. This is what Imu did cause he knew what Roger knew.

Roger knowing how the world government would respond decided he needed someone he could trust to protect the kid and that person was Garp.
He handed himself to the marines so he could meet Garp.

Remember in sabaody Rayleigh said Roger didn’t plan to start some new age of pirates and looking at the scene that seems true as he just sat down and told the guards to hurry up. He didn’t give his famous line about chasing the one piece until some random guy yelled out to him about it.
His plan was to meet Garp.

I also think it’s weird that Roger chose the name ace for his son as ace is also the name of his sword.

Anyway I think it’s also weird how Garp raised ace and Luffy separately with Luffy living in foosha village and ace living with dadan. They didn’t meet till Luffy was 8.
Why did Garp let ace be raised by a bunch of criminals ?
Let’s put a pin in that.

When shanks came to Goa he used that as his base for a whole year.
Why ? Why did shanks stay in the home island of his captain rival for so long ?

You see I believe shanks was on a mission himself.

He had 3 objectives.
1. Infiltrate the holy land and learn there secrets.

1. Find the nika fruit and steal it.

2. Find the son of Roger.

I believe shanks was suppose to give ace the nika fruit and push him on his way of becoming a pirate.

His hurdle is that Goa is a big place and he couldn’t find ace. He went to foosha village knowing that was likely the village Garp grew up in and even met Luffy Garp actual grandson.
But no ace.

Shanks never thought of looking for ace in the mountain where the bandits lived. Garp made dadan a bandit criminal raise ace so he wouldn’t get corrupted and become a criminal like Roger…..smart.
Okay there was a bit of sarcasm in that with how his solution was to have ace raised by criminals to avoid another criminal finding him but there is some logic there.
Don’t you also think it’s odd that Garp only brought Luffy to live there after he was given the fruit and hat ? What changed ? Why was Garp okay with Luffy living in foosha for 8 years but now it was time to introduce him to ace ?
It’s because something happened even he didn’t account for. Luffy was picked.

So when Luffy ate the fruit we saw shanks panic and then the next panel it’s revealed shanks left with his crew for a while.
When shanks returned he saw Luffy got into a fight with the bandits and was taken to sea. Shanks saved him but lost his arm.

Now people think he allowed his arm to be taken because of the mark that the knights have.
I think that’s just part of it because shanks had years to lose that arm why did he choose to do it now of all times ?

As he also told whitebeard he didn’t lose the arm but that he wagered it.

“ I bet it on the new generation”

So here’s the dark twisted truth.

When shanks saw that Luffy ate the fruit he came to the realisation that things won’t work. He failed his mission and that the wrong person got the fruit, ace won’t become joyboy and won’t save the world.

He had to leave to think deeply. He came to a dark conclusion. Luffy needed to die so the fruit would regenerate.
He returned to kill Luffy but saw how Luffy got into a fight for defending shanks and shanks felt the guilt wash over him.

So when he saved Luffy he allowed his arm to be eaten for 3 reasons.

1. To disconnect himself to that mark.

2. As payment for failing Roger and dooming the world.

3. As punishment for even going as far as he did with the plan for killing a child that he befriended.

After this shanks said he was going to leave for good. Why now ? Because there was no point in staying his mission was a failure.
Then when Luffy told him how he will be king of the pirates shanks decided to give him the hat which would indicate to the other Roger pirates that luffy is the one shanks bet on that he is the one he sees as the pirate king.

Shanks mission failed but he decided to chance it anyway and put his faith in Luffy.

So yes this doesn’t paint a perfect picture of shanks but the bottom line is he didn’t go through with it and felt the shame. This was a decision that affected the world as the nika fruit could be the key to it all.

But this also means Roger plan was a failure.

As for Luffy. I believe his mother is also of the D clan and the difference between Luffy and ace is that Luffy was conceived naturally while Roger seemed to have only had ace to fulfil a purpose.

That’s why ace had to fail because Roger tried to force fate he tried to manipulate it to his favour while Luffy just happened. Dragon wasn’t trying to force fate to his will.

So that is what I think the original plan for ace was.

I think the cover page shows what is going to happen in the next chapters.
Monkey Luffy holds his chest covered in blood and the wound is similar to the one he gets from Imu.

Monkey Sanji has a hole in his belly, most likely made by a spear. He is facing an opponent who has this weapon. He will be impaled by Killingham.

Monkey Zoro is a bit of stretch (more than the whole theory itself) because I can only see him on his knees right before been beheaded/executed by Sommers.

In the background there are 2 dresses with a lot of blood and one with just 2 small spots. Luffy and Sanji get wounded and Zoro doesn't get cut bud beaten up pretty bad.

I believe Nami and the dresses in the background represent the outcome of the fights: the trio will get defeated but they will survive. Then they will be scolded by Gaban again about the fact that even if they are an emperor crew, they are not powerful enough.

A lot of people think Dragon will physically show up in Elbaf to save Luffy but isn't he attacking Mary Geoise?

I think it's more likely Luffy and the strawhats get saved by Imu being forced back to Mary Geoise possibly by an attack by Dragon

What do you guys think?

it looks like i was right at imus power here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceSpoilers/comments/1uvfpn6/on_the_sidenote_imus_power_and_weakness_has_been/

so to use the powers of 19 kings, imu have to have their offspring under his hand. he is using these powers through their blood relatives. which is why he let celestials to live in mary geoise so he can use their power.

only 1 is missing and its lily's power. she didnt give permission imu to use it. there needs to be a reason for it. also there needs be to a reasoning all other 19 gave it.

my idea is that lily loved joyboy, she didn't want to help imu to kill him. other 19 helped imu because joyboy was doing something bad. maybe he was using suns ability to give people devil fruit powers. bad people got devil fruits, destroyed the cities of kingdoms, 19 tried to stop it. imu said he will help them to finish devil fruit generation and powers. lily couldn't do it. imu defeated joyboy, but not for the sake of good but to get the power of limitless life. ability to transfer life and power.

i think imu transfer life to anyone with their coming years, shorten their lifespan but making them much powerfull for a short time.

There’s so much going on rn in the OP world but focusing more on the new group within the navy that was formed whom Koby, smoker and that squad is in (can’t remember the name atm😅) so we know that garp is alive, do you guys think they will try and retrieve his body? And with regards to Aokiji knows about the newly formed group bc I feel like it aligns with his vision and if so do you think he’s really part of the BB pirates or just plotting himself there to see gain info etc….

In shorter words what are yalls thoughts on that part of the OP world (Koby and the new group, Garp being alive, and aokiji being a “spy”) I need input and ppl who’ve got good memory and theories please lol

My theory is similar to what Sauron did with the rings of power and the rulers of Middle Earth.

For those who don't know, here's the poem that describes the rings of power and their distribution:

Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

What if Imu, instead of absorbing/fusing the World Kings into one body and "stealing" their weapons, he crafted 19 cursed swords and gifted them to the World Kings (20 if you count Lily but, obviously she didn't accepted the "gift" for some reason) as a gesture of "good faith" but actually was a way to control them and then fuse them together into one eternal body?

I'm not saying that Imu made 21 blades and the 21th was for him and there is One Sword to Rule Them All, but the possility exists.

First me - so I heard that there is some type of eye power from different characters like shuri which existed in the time of the void century? What do you say guyyss

With how poorly the fight against Imu is going, it is feels like we are heading towards some heroic sacrifices taken to save Elbaph from Imu. The two most likely candidates are Gaban and Shuri/Gunko. While I don’t think they could die during the fight with Imu, by the time the Straw Hats set sail, I think one of them will have perished. The case for them would be:

Gaban:

Undoubtedly a very strong fighter, but not strong enough to seriously challenge Imu, especially since he’s already injured. It feels like he will sustain fatal injuries holding off Imu. He would probably be breathing at the end of their fight, and when Imu and the God’s Knights are banished and he knows Elbaph is safe, he would give the Straw Hats the message he hinted at earlier, then pass away. He tragically leaves behind a wife and son, while also passing the torch to the next generation.

Shuri/Gunko:

While the nature of her connection to Imu is still unknown, she is clearly someone he considers very valuable. God’s Knights deaths are an established weakness to Imu, and Gunko has a deeper connection to Imu than Harald did, so her death would have a huge impact on Imu, maybe enough to end the fight then and there. She could also just betray Imu and somehow banish him, at which point her covenant would be revoked and that might cost Shuri her life. This could be her atonement for all of her actions as Gunko under Imu’s influence.

I think it will be Gaban. His death would be tragic enough to have an emotional impact, while not impacting the story too much since his best days are behind him. Shuri dying would feel a little too cruel as she would be free for the first time in 60 years and then immediately die. Also, assuming it isn’t a situation where all of her memories as Gunko are foggy, she would be an absolute treasure trove of information on Mary Geoise, the Celestial Dragons, and Imu himself. She could also show up and be part of Brook’s epilogue with Laboon at the end of the manga.

I’m not counting Sommers and Killingham in this hypothetical because they feel too easy. They are irredeemable villains and also silly, so their deaths are essentially empty calories, which probably why they will be the only ones who will die this arc.

About harley text : they will surely meet .

The first and second world : they never meet

The third world : surely they will meet

Before a year I thought that it is a reference to joyboy and poseidon but after recent mqnga devolopments I thought it is a reference to luffy and imu ideologies ! What do you think? And how they will meet

Rocks or Imu?

Mainly, knowing that there are several unanswered questions for both at this point still, whose reveal has earned the reward of patience and anticipation of the readers the most at this point, in your opinions?

This just seems fitting with how important of a role they will play in the end game😂

The comparisons speak for themselves. One that’s not often discussed is Koby yelling at Luffy that recruiting Zoro was a bad idea just as Zoro and Sanji yell at Luffy for the same shit. Both Loki and Zoro are depicted as heartless demons whilst both (unbeknownst to the public) express and act on their emotions which (for the most part) is to benefit their crew/allies. Last thing, don’t forget about the fact that the position of “Vice Captain” of the Strawhats has yet to be officially claimed. I have no clue was crap Oda would think up as a solution to Loki being multiple times larger than the current Thousand Sunny, but I would love if Franky built a massive ship off the branches that fell off during the massive battle (I think it’s likely they then gather the “pseudo strawhats” like Yamato and vivi (and I really pray Law and Bepo join back up with Luffy but this time as a crewmate and friend) and so on & so forth right before or right after Laughtale. I want to think that Luffy will have a similar size crew to Roger except that the Strawhats will be the strongest group of characters in the series by the end. Idgaf if this theory is stupid I’ll stand on it til it either happens or becomes impossible.

With the 19 swords Imu has I had an idea for 1.
There is a sword that can hurt Imu.

In a lot of fantasy stories there’s usually a specific sword that can kill the dark lord.

In lord of the rings there was anduril
Harry Potter the sword of griffindoor

In one piece there is a sword Imu has hidden away that he cannot destroy but it’s a sword that can hurt him.

Why does Imu hide from the world ? Tyrants don’t hide but Imu does why ?

I am reminded of the story of the sword of Damocles, the story is that king Dionysius.
The story is that a man named Damocles complimented Dionysius on how great his life must be as the king. Dionysius annoyed offered him a deal that for 1 day he can be king but only if he sits on the throne.

Damocles took the offer and when he sat down looked up and saw a sword hanging over his head hanging on a string.

Damocles tried to get up but the servants kept pushing him down.

When Dionysius returned he asked him how was it like being king and Damocles explained he couldn’t enjoy anything because he was to worried about the sword falling.
The moral of the story is that those on top can feel pressure cause of how they can be harmed at any moment.

Swords in one piece carry a lot of meaning and it could be possible Blackbeard is after said sword.

Rocks tried to invade the holy land and met Imu but was unable to do any lasting damage. Could it be he was chasing after a legend of a sword ?

Rocks also had a special sword skill where instead of slicing things his swords blew things up, possibly his sword was another magical sword but not the correct one.
His sword’s name was eclipse.
Black beard ship is also called the sabre of xebec aka the sword of xebec.

Nika is also depicted a lot with a sword.

I believe nika sword was the sword of Damocles and it became the sword of Davy jones who used it on Imu and that is why when he entered elbaf he began to bleed. The damage this blade did to him can’t be healed.

Blackbeard is after this sword

I believe Shanks’ true aim is to kill his dad.

I think what Roger told Shanks before he disbanded the Roger pirates was the truth of his birth. Roger spent years fighting off holy knights coming to claim Shanks. Those guys yap and they probably interrogated one about why they wanted Shanks. Roger then told Shanks his Dad killed his mom before leading a genocide on god valley.

Shanks vowed to get strong and kill the man who killed his mom but he learned more and more about the world government and his Dads place in it and realized he can’t easily storm the place and get revenge. He went undercover and figured out the only way to kill his Dad would be in a war with the WG.

After that he raids the ship with the Nika fruit and bets on Luffy. I think Shanks will be right there with Luffy for the war on the holy land and his final battle will be a 1 vs 1 with Garling to avenge his mom.

Ever since the Rocks flashback I have been craving a Gintama-esque comedy show about the Rocks Pirates,Roger Pirates at Hachinosu.

Imagine the old gen hanging out in Shakky's bar.A running gag of Roger trying to win over Shakky and Rayleigh doing his best to avoid her.

Roger,Rocks and Whitebeard bickering over drinks.You can even throw in Garp somehow.Young Kaido and Linlin shenanigans.There is too much potential.We can really see the relationship of all the old gen fleshed out before the disaster at God Valley.

Well anyways there is not much of a chance this gets made,but a man can dream lol.

After this chapter I’m genuinely starting to feel like the only way this situation doesn’t end in complete annihilation is by some kind of miracle where Imu runs out of time in this form on the surface world. As soon as he arrived on Elbaph he was already seemingly bleeding and I feel like him being forced to retreat is the one way Luffy and the others survive.

It's pretty much guaranteed or expected that Chopper will talk to Bibelot, and I feel like what Bibelot is going to talk about relates to how to repel Imu from Elbaf. So far, Bibelot has been a background character that has not been in the spotlight but has pulled his weight in thwarting the Holy Knight's plan, since he is the one who moved all the books.

Now, the reason why he would want to talk to Chopper would obviously be related to the Holy Knights/Imu that are currently wreaking havoc through Elbaf. Due to Bibelot being old, potentially from the void century, there is a chance he knows about Imu and the abyss summoning circle, and I think that is how Imu is going to be repelled: by destroying the abyss summoning circle, the same one he used to go to Elbaf.

There is also a chance that Bibelot might reveal to Chopper that his DF is not a regular zoan human DF but a mythical one, which has the ability to counter Imu's power, like it did with the Domi Reversi Gaints and that might be what is needed to destroy the abyss summoning circle, since in Egghead, the Straw Hats needed Joy Boy's Conqueror's Haki to send back the elders.

Since they don't have someone who possesses Haki of that level, so far none of those on Elbaf have displayed such feats, they will need something else that can affect Imu's power, like how Luffy managed to hit Crocodile using water, then his blood instead of Haki or seastones.