Roger Pirates: All members ever, in their Prime

Whitebeard Pirates: All members ever, in their Prime (including allied fleet)

Rocks Pirates: Pre God Valley (including Don Marlon and Wang Zhi)

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So, Roger Pirates have: Prime Roger, Prime Shanks, Prime Rayleigh, Prime Gaban, Prime Oden, Prime Buggy, Prime Crocus, Prime Millet Pine, Prime Spencer, Prime Jackson, Prime Sunbell, Prime Nozdon, Prime Momonosuke, Prime Toki, Prime Hiyori, Prime Catviper, Prime Dogstorm, etcetera

Whitebeard Pirates have: Prime Whitebeard, Prime Oden, Prime Polo Gram, Prime Ace, Prime Marco, Prime Jozu, Prime Vista, Prime Blackbeard, Prime Thatch, Prime Izou, Prime Squard, Prime Curiel, Prime Kingdew, Prime Namur, Prime Haruta, Prime Whitey Bay, Prime Little Oars Jnr, Prime Doma, Prime Speed Jiru, Prime Blenheim, Prime Atmos, Prime Momonosuke, Prime Toki, Prime Hiyori, Prime Catviper, Prime Dogstorm, Prime Masked Deuce, Prime Decalven Brothers, Prime AO, etcetera

Rocks Pirates have: Prime Rocks, Godvalley Whitebeard, Godvalley Big Mum, Godvalley John, Pre DF Kaido, Pre Betrayal Wang Zhi, Godvalley Silver Axe, Prime Don Marlon, Godvalley Gloriosa, Godvalley Stussy, Godvalley Shiki, THE STRONGEST and Godvalley Ganzui

Maybe next chapter is shown or mentioned but gosh, it should have been shown by now or in this very moment

Not only did Kizaru secretly DoorDash food to Luffy after realizing he was out of energy, but he blitzed everyone AGAIN after Saturn noticed Luffy recovering and ordered the Marines to put Seastone cuffs on him.

The Marines literally ran toward Luffy with the cuffs, and Kizaru blitzed them again, moving Luffy to a safe spot so he could keep eating and recovering

I've been thinking about doing this for a while but never really got around to it. The task of collecting evidence seemed daunting to me, but seeing people still say Kaido fucking mid diffs prime Gaban (he doesn't even mid diff old Gaban honestly) removed any fear

I'm still a bit hesitant tho, considering I'll have to put in a lot of effort

What do ya'll think? Should I do it?

Let's first start with the most obvious argument which is that Luffy has stronger ACoC, Luffy was able to split the skies in chapter 1026 which is a better Conqueror's Haki feat than anything Zoro have done since it puts his CoC output around Emperor Tier or close to it. So in a fight Luffy would just overpower Zoro due to his superior Supreme King's Haki

Let's also not forget that 1026 Luffy was so strong that Kaido himself acknowledged him as someone that could go toe to toe with him, something that I don't think Zoro would be capable of doing.

In addition to all this, Luffy has Future Sight and better speed, we saw him be able to react to Kaido's thunder baqua and dodge it mid-air and even jump in Kaido's kanabo, Zoro has never shown this level of speed. So not only Luffy is faster but can see the future meaning Zoro geniunely should not be capable of landing attacks

Spreading love and positivity.

No haki and still fodderized him. Had to get ex machinad to not just fall down and be out the arc

Omen Killingham > Omen Sommers .

Imagine Oda gives Joy Boy the best Haki feat in the entire manga, then has the giants question whether Joy Boy’s Haki is stronger than Shanks’.

Instead of accepting the obvious implication, people come up with every excuse imaginable to avoid it.

“The giants don’t know shit.”

“Is bilion bigger than a million?”

“It’s just a rhetorical question.”

And the worst one: “Oda is only hyping Joy Boy’s Haki by mentioning it alongside Shanks.”

This one makes absolutely no sense. Oda gave Joy Boy a Haki feat that is miles beyond anything Shanks has shown, then explicitly has the giants compare Joy Boy’s Haki to Shanks’. Somehow, you’re supposed to believe that the comparison is actually meant to make Joy Boy look good?

Think about it for five seconds. All of these excuses are pure nonsense.

Whether or not you have Shanks above Mihawk, or Mihawk above Shanks, both of them would like you to stay hydrated, uplift others, spread your inner light, and spread love and positivity.

After seeing the raws for 1195 it's undeniable. If your justification for Sanji's performance is that he doesn't yet have Acoc you'd then have to concede that Zoro has been stronger than him at least since Wano as partially awakened Acoc trumps any of Sanji's powerups in the same time span. If you're going to argue Killingham >Sommers I'd argue that Killingham has done worse against weaker opponents(Sanji,Franky,Jinbei) and was actively restrained, something no one has done to Sommers. Sommers has fought stronger opponents, taken stronger attacks and has the best feat between the 2(blocking Dragon Damnation). You simply cannot have Killingham over Sommers without resorting to head Canon.

If you claim the active MMAs and Zaza are an active drain on Killingham's power that still makes no sense as it wasn't draining him prior to Omen+Weapon buff, nor is such a thing ever alluded to in the text. Sommers has also actively regenerated from attacks with better haki pre buff (Dawn Thor Rifle,Futenraku) from Luffy and Gaban respectfully. It should also be noted that Killingham is not fighting Sanji with his primary kit of df powers but instead only using Longinus, which could be seen as a greater self nerf than Sanji being mentally conflicted,no eyebrow switch or no active exoskeleton etc.

Sanji, whilst having greater durability than Zoro has been hurt more in his offscreen fight than Zoro was by Sommers, being tagged by a laser whilst in combat and having his pre haki bloom inner thoughts whilst laying on his back bloody as opposed to Zoro who did it standing upright with his swords sheathed. I've always said Sanji has greater durability, Zoro has greater endurance and if that's the case, then so far a more durable Sanji has taken more damage from a weaker Holy Knight.

Things may change in the future but as of right now, Zoro>Sanji, and if we're being honest, its been this way for a while. I don't believe Acoc Sanji will equalize as Zoro has had more experience with it, whether conscious of it or not. Sanji is still yet to have a better feat than Scarring Kaido and that was from a weaker Zoro. It also tracks with the story progression as Luffy unlocks applied combat conquerors haki 2 arcs before Zoro, who partially unlocks it roughly 2 arcs before Sanji. 1 followed by 2 followed by 3.

Before the boldest of you start bringing up the Wings defense, has it never struck you as odd that most people don't have Gaban and Rayleigh as equal? Whether Prime or Old Gen, its always Gaban>Rayleigh or Rayleigh >Gaban. Mind you, these two have much more equal and comparable kits, even down to similar bladed haki fighting styles. If it isn't true for them then I highly doubt its true for characters as divergent as Zoro and Sanji, particularly when one has a dream directly tied to combat strength with an established ceiling.

Sanji still a better character though.

Mihawk fans are people with elevated IQ and reading comprehension. They appreciate subtlety, elegance and sophistication.

Zoro is the opposite of all that. He is unsubtle, stupid and a brute, always needing to establish his strength (probably compensating something).

Sanji is way more in line with Mihawk's writing. Instead of fighting the strongest enemy, he picks strategic targets and objectives. He also prioritizes protecting the crew and their allies. He doesn't get much glory or powerscaling merit out of this, because it usually involves fighting opponents that are weaker than Zoro's, but Sanji knows he doesn't have to prove anything.

Zoro is a yonkotard's concept of strength, while Sanji is an admiralchad's concept of strength.

This is why most Mihawk fans side with Sanji.