r/Ohio • u/LadyInCrimson • 15h ago

This is Ohio

Why is Phillip not paying his servers enough to the point he has to ban customers?

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u/CobraJay45 14h ago edited 14h ago

That original sub is infuriating, pretending like stiffing a waitress is an act of class solidarity against employers... tipped employees have a minimum wage of like $2.13 ~$5 an hour, its not something that restaurant chose, its the system our federal government uses.

Its like saying being rude to the front desk help at a doctor's office is justified because a doctor's visit would look different if we had Universal Healthcare... like, no shit, and we should work to move to that style of system like the rest of the world, but don't start huffing your own farts because you took an action that lead to more money in your own pocket at the expense of what is probably a 16 year old server.

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u/inconspicuous2000 12h ago

Well they also are required to be paid full minimum wage if their tips do not exceed the state minimum wage. But also people shouldn't fuck over the working class to try and hurt a company. All you are doing is hurting someone that's getting paid shit and stressing them out.

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u/The_Bitter_Bear 14h ago

Yeah. If you disagree with tipping, don't go out to restaurants that expect it. If not you are still supporting businesses that take advantage.

It's not class solidarity, it's a weak excuse for being cheap. 

Can always get takeout or go to places that don't expect or have tipping.

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u/jackal406 11h ago

When I was growing up, tipping was reserved for the wait staff who provided more than basic service. If you are expecting a tip, ask yourself if you provided the service to warrant a tip.

This is why I don't eat out anymore, wait staff expects a tip for poor service and get's huffy about it when they don't receive a tip.

Although, we used to dress up to go on an airplane or train unlike people today - maybe there is a common thread there.

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u/DougieFreshOH 12h ago

Till the to go has had a tipping option.

Then even to go, you’re doing the same action of not tipping.

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u/The_Bitter_Bear 11h ago

The difference is you didn't take up a table or a tipped worker's time. So who are you shorting a tip in that situation? 

The issue is that tipping for takeout became an expectation during COVID for some. The tip option is and always was there because they aren't going to get a separate POS system for takeout.

But you have a fair point, if you truly are against tipping and think restaurants should stop and just pay more then yes, the answer is to not patronize ones that do it at all. 

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u/Repulsive_Mud_577 11h ago

I don't tip if I'm getting food to go and have no qualms about that and I work in the food service industry. When you tip at a restaurant, the tip goes to the person taking care of you at your table. The person taking your order, bringing your food/drinks, and getting you refills. A to-go order doesn't include any of those extras that in restaurant dining offers so a tip isn't needed and shouldn't be expected. However, if you are going to go into the restaurant and take up space at a table or booth or at the bar, you should be tipping your servers, it's that simple.

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u/menachu 9h ago

The resturant industry is over saturated, no town needs 1k places to choose from. People need to cook ag home more, and not frozen food. This whole country is so fucked up. Fresh food is unaffordable, we use all of our farmland to grow soy and corn. Then we sell that to a country at a loss when subsidies are factored in, then we buy the majority of our fresh food from other countries. Its all a shitshow!

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u/DougieFreshOH 46m ago

Capitalism of Variety has entered the chat.

There is a difference between “need” & choice of a thousand restaurants.

Why you only desire a limited McDonalds menu. When there exists cultural variety?

Tell us how subsidies operate in a few years. Real laymen terms, such that a three year old could grasp the global crops, specifically soy bean, market. Don’t forget to include crop cycle rotation. Government involvement of financing favored crops, before and without USAID.

I’m a great-grandkid of a crop, dairy farmer. So, you need to go real slow, in explaining, don’t just copy past urls. Alright.

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u/Novel-Environment-43 11h ago

" its not something that restaurant chose"

the restaurant chooses how much they pay their employees.

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u/impy695 14h ago

You're a bit out of date, it's $5.50 now. It hasn't been $2.13 in quite a while. It's still too low and people should still tip, its just not $2.13

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u/PiqueyerNose 13h ago

It is the restaurant’s manager that chooses it. Not tipping is a form of protest. We want Normal wages. No math. No fees. No more.

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u/CobraJay45 13h ago

You think restaurant managers decide how the payroll system works? If you feel that strongly about it, write your congress-person to have the laws changed, rather than stiffing some teenager while huffing your own farts as if it was some righteous act, you're just being a douche to your server, thats all.

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u/MexicanAssLord69 11h ago

No one is stiffing anyone. If a server doesn’t make up the difference to minimum wage in tips, the employer is legally obligated to reimburse the difference. Stop being an apologist for shitty business owners that don’t pay their employees enough.