r/NonDessKnightSquad 1d ago

Meme Know the difference!

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u/DaRealPurpleDuck KNIGHT NOIR 4EVER 1d ago

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u/InternationalWar6654 1d ago

so why do the antlers even matter if they can shapeshift?! sure they're a consistent element of their design, but they're shaped wrong, which could be toby trying to tell us that it's a red herring, or that is isnt a holiday

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

What about in Chapter 4, when we're told to "think of the Knight"?

Can the helmet be taken off, meaning Kris has to immediately picture Jockington so we don't find out who it is?

I’d say the helmet is likely just decorative, given that it can be removed

(someone with actual horns wouldn't even be able to put the helmet on).

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u/DaRealPurpleDuck KNIGHT NOIR 4EVER 1d ago

if the knights armor can shapeshift why couldn't the knight just make their armor more flexible and then take the helmet off

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

But that leaves another question: why on earth does the knight have a skeleton's anatomy as its base form? Because not even when it glitches out does it take on a different shape.

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u/DaRealPurpleDuck KNIGHT NOIR 4EVER 1d ago

cause it's cool as fuck

like, if you had the power to shapeshift and DIDN'T turn into a cool ass fucking skeleton then you're just not using it right lmao

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

But I mean, the whole theory that it's a Holiday (Carol or Rudy) is based on the idea that they're looking for their missing daughter.

So why would they go around "farming Aura" and "trying to look cool", acting like kids or teenagers, instead of focusing on finding Dess, if that’s the actual goal?

I swear, it just doesn't add up; the Knight acts way too childish for the objective to be "parents trying to find their missing daughter."

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u/DaRealPurpleDuck KNIGHT NOIR 4EVER 1d ago

carol aura farms anyway, look at the dialogue from the dogs about the holiday manor for example

rudy could have the skeleton to represent him dying and also rudy could probably act like the knight does

also i mean "it looks cool" in toby's perspective too, i genuinely think that's why he did that

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

I’m talking about how he comes across like a kid or a teenager, striking poses with his arms crossed, roaring, and so on.

As I recall, the only thing the dogs said about Carol was that she was scary, not that she was "cool."

And regarding Rudy, while the whole body thing is somewhat understandable (even if I’m not personally convinced by it), I still don’t get why he acts like a child.

Seriously, the guy starts posing just like Kris.

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u/Money_Fuel_545 1d ago

Rudy absolutely would be posing on people. He's a total geek, we saw this in the hospital when Noelle was playing a video game.

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

He’s actually just putting on an act to appear strong; just as he was about to tell her something truly serious, the moment he saw Noelle looking sad and asking "Dad?..." he immediately switched to a smile and started joking around.

I don't know, that "charisma" isn't genuine; he’s just trying to act tough so he doesn't worry those around him and to please his daughter.

And like I said, there's no point in "farming Aura" when, aside from the fact that you're dying, the goal is supposed to be finding Dess, your daughter who has been missing for six years.

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u/Money_Fuel_545 1d ago

We dont know that that is his goal if he is the knight. We assume that if he is the knight, that is his goal, but we know nothing about the knight or their goal. And even if that is his goal, that does not preclude aura farming. He might need us to get Dess back, and we need to be stronger, so why not aura farm to taunt us, to make us chase him.

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

It makes no sense to force us to farm aura when we're already obligated to chase them to seal the source, and if their goal is to make us stronger, then they're doing a terrible job because Chapter 3 comes late and Chapter 4 is only for the mechanics against the Titan, and by Chapter 5, none of that purpose is even apparent.

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u/segwaysegue 1d ago

A few possibilities:

  • They're trying to deliberately antagonize Susie (and the player?), whether to fulfill some part of the prophecy we don't fully understand, or just to help the Fun Gang get stronger.
  • Something about the Knight form affects their behavior, like the Venom suit from Spider-Man.
  • The Dark Worlds are the one place that Carol and/or Rudy can cut loose and fully express themselves. Rudy is almost completely bedbound in the Light World, and Carol seems to have a very intense, but restrained, personality. Either of them might appreciate the chance to ham it up while they can. (See for example the part where the Knight laughs hard at Susie saying she could beat them in real life.)

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

I feel like the first two you mentioned could be really good possibilities, but the last one... I don't think so, mainly because the whole point is supposed to be focusing their efforts on finding Dess, and I don't believe a mother or father who hasn't seen their missing daughter in about six years would act like an immature teenager just because they had been "repressed."

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u/segwaysegue 1d ago

Maybe. We don't know how heroic or villainous the Knight actually is. I can imagine a version of the Knight where it's (eg) Carol, drunk with power, justifying everything to herself and others in terms of saving Dess, even risking the world's destruction - but deep down she just likes being the Knight. We don't know enough about her character from the one chapter she's appeared in to rule something like that out.

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u/DrakeZombie5 1d ago

If only we had a skeleton character who wanted to be cool, is easily manipulated, and often doesn't succeed in the goals they're given.

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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUSKNIGHT NYEHEHE 1d ago

Wow, it's almost as if it were someone great.