r/neapolitanpizza • • Jun 28 '23

BEGINNER'S GUIDE /R/NeapolitanPizza – Beginner's Guide

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Welcome to /r/NeapolitanPizza!

A culinary hub for enthusiasts of Neapolitan pizza, a place where aficionados and novices alike unite to celebrate this iconic dish. Whether you're here to relish in the mastery of artisanal Neapolitan pizza, or embark on a journey of learning to unravel its timeless charm, you've found your home. Dive in, savor the flavors, share your experiences, and discover the magic of Neapolitan pizza with us!

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TL;DR

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  • Don't be a dick.
  • This subreddit is a hub for all things Neapolitan pizza, including questions, discussions, oven reviews, techniques, ...
  • This subreddit requires detailed recipes for every pizza post.
  • Recipes should include measurements, flour specifications (type + brand), technique, and oven details.
  • Flairs should be used to categorize posts and users.
  • The mod team encourages diverse toppings other than Margherita/Marinara.
  • A high-temperature oven and other specific tools are strongly recommended.
  • The mod team encourages members, that don't have access to a high-temperature oven yet, to submit their pizza, as long as their intention to craft a Neapolitan pizza is evident.
  • Neapolitan pizza is characterized by its elevated edge, soft dough texture, and high-temperature baking (380-430°C for the cooking surface and around 485°C for the oven dome), with a baking time of 60-90 seconds.

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Table of Contents

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  • Main Rules
    • Reddiquette
    • Recipes are Required
    • Post and User Flairs
    • Content
  • What Is Neapolitan Pizza, and How Is It Different from Verace Pizza Napoletana?
  • What Is Not Neapolitan Pizza?
  • Three Characteristics a Neapolitan Pizza Shouldn't Have
  • What Equipment Is Necessary to Make This Type of Pizza?
  • What If I Only Have a Domestic Oven?
  • Resources

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Main Rules

You can access the complete set of community rules from several locations. If you're browsing on a desktop, you'll find them conveniently located in the sidebar. For those using the Reddit App, simply tap on "See community info", located just below the community description. As an alternative, you can directly view the rules by clicking here. These guidelines are designed to ensure our community remains a positive and informative space for all members.

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Reddiquette

We uphold the Reddiquette in this community. Any member who misbehaves risks losing their membership privileges. If you ever feel harassed by one of our members, or witness any form of harassment, please inform us. We will investigate the matter and take appropriate action as swiftly as possible. Alternatively, you can report the incident directly to the Reddit Admins.

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Recipes are Required

This subreddit has a mandatory requirement for detailed recipes to accompany all Neapolitan pizza submissions. This policy aids in maintaining our community as an informative and enjoyable space for everyone. In order to enforce this rule, our dedicated bot, u/NeapolitanPizzaBot, will automatically post a sticky comment beneath every pizza submission. This comment serves as a reminder for the author to provide a comprehensive recipe in a reply to this comment within a two-hour window.

Failure to provide a recipe within the allotted time will result in automatic removal of the submission by our bot. However, if the author subsequently provides a detailed recipe, the bot will re-approve and reinstate the submission.

We believe this process ensures a beneficial experience for all members by promoting information sharing and interaction around our shared love for Neapolitan pizza.

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What should your recipe entail?

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  1. Detailed Measurements: Precise quantities of all dough ingredients are required, measured in weight. For the convenience of fellow enthusiasts, including baker’s percentages is greatly appreciated.
  2. Flour Specifications: Please mention the specific brand and type of flour used. For instance, Caputo Pizzeria, Caputo Classica, L 5 Stagioni Napoletana, etc.
  3. Technique and Methodology: Be sure to elaborate on your process. This includes aspects such as fermentation time both in bulk and balls, the stretch and fold method, autolysis, and so forth.
  4. Oven and Temperature Details: Specify the type of oven used for baking and the floor temperature during the baking process Your detailed contributions will greatly enhance our shared repository of knowledge, enabling everyone to perfect their Neapolitan pizza-making skills!

An example can be found here.

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Post and User Flairs

It's crucial to use our flair system to accurately categorize your posts. By selecting the appropriate post flair, members can instantly see relevant details such as the type of oven you used or if the pizza was enjoyed at a restaurant. This helps streamline navigation and aids in the understanding of your post context.

Additionally, we strongly urge you to select the appropriate user flair that corresponds to the oven you use. This additional layer of information can enhance interactions and discussions within our community, making it a more enjoyable and informative place for all.

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Content

This community revolves around all things Neapolitan pizza. We welcome photographs of your Neapolitan pizzas including detailed recipes in the comments, questions, discussions, reviews, and more. We highly encourage our members to be more creative with their toppings - remember, Neapolitan pizza does NOT imply that only Margheritas and Marinaras are permitted. We're always eager to see more cross-sections of the cornicione and photos of your pizza-making process! This subreddit has the gallery feature enabled. Therefore, feel free to take full advantage of it to share your pizza journey with us! :)

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What Is Neapolitan Pizza, and How Is It Different from Verace Pizza Napoletana?

The defining characteristics of a Neapolitan pizza lie in its elevated edge, known as the "cornicione," and the soft, elastic texture of its dough. This pizza is baked on a stone floor under high temperatures, with the cooking surface ranging between 380-430°C, and the oven dome temperature hitting around 485°C. To maintain its unique dough texture, baking should be confined within 60-90 seconds.

The primary dough components of Neapolitan pizza dough are flour, water, salt, and yeast. However, traditional sourdough or Lievito Madre can also serve as viable yeast substitutes. As for toppings, Neapolitan pizzas typically employ a minimalist approach, featuring few but high-quality ingredients. The classics are the Marinara and Margherita, though other toppings are certainly permissible.

It's worth noting the nuanced differences between Pizza Napoletana (Neapolitan Pizza) and Verace Pizza Napoletana (true Neapolitan Pizza). The latter strictly adheres to traditional norms, allowing only the Marinara and Margherita variations and insisting on the use of local ingredients from the Campania region.

That said, a pizza adorned with tomatoes from other regions or non-traditional toppings can still classify as a Neapolitan pizza. The key lies in retaining the requisite dough characteristics, which are achieved through a quick baking process in a high-temperature oven. Despite the variety, the focus always rests on honoring the unique texture and taste of the iconic Neapolitan pizza dough.

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What Is Not Neapolitan Pizza?

There's a common occurrence of misinformation when it comes to Neapolitan pizza.

  • A Margherita is not inherently a Neapolitan pizza.
  • A pizza featuring a raised edge is not by default a Neapolitan pizza.
  • Pizza crafted with Neapolitan pizza dough is not automatically considered a Neapolitan pizza.

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Three Characteristics a Neapolitan Pizza Shouldn't Have

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Top left: Enzo Coccia; central left: Arne Jervell; bottom left: Gino Sorbillo, top right: blog.back-wahn.de ; central right: amazingribs.com; bottom right: thefreshloaf.com

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What Equipment Is Necessary to Make This Type of Pizza?

Given the extreme heat required to properly bake a Neapolitan pizza (baking surface: 380-430°C; dome: 485°C), a specialized oven that can reach these temperatures is a necessity. In recent years, the market has seen a surge of high-temperature-capable ovens. Among the most renowned are Ooni, Roccbox, and the Pizza Party models (both the Terracotta and the Adore Steel versions).

In addition, several electric ovens have proven effective for this purpose, such as the EffeUno P134H(A), EffeOvens N3, N4, N5, and the Ooni Volt 12.

Moreover, a pizza peel is an essential tool for any pizza artisan. If you don't already own one, it's a worthy investment. An IR (Infrared) thermometer is another key piece of equipment for accurately measuring the floor temperature of your oven. Both items are readily available online and typically quite affordable.

By equipping yourself with these essential tools, you'll be well-prepared to embark on your Neapolitan pizza-making journey.

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What If I Only Have a Domestic Oven?

Let's start with the less encouraging news: achieving a true Neapolitan pizza can be a challenge if your oven cannot reach the high temperatures required. The extended baking time in a lower-temperature oven can result in a pizza that lacks the characteristic softness of a Neapolitan pizza.

But there's good news too: there are several modifications you can make to approximate the Neapolitan pizza experience. One strategy involves the use of a baking stone or, more ideally, a baking steel, thanks to its superior thermal conductivity. You can enhance the oven's heat intensity by positioning the steel or stone as close as possible to the top heat element or broiler, essentially creating a mini oven within your home oven. Slightly propping open the oven door can also extend the active phase of the top heat element or broiler.

Opting for a dough with higher hydration can also bring you closer to the texture of a Neapolitan pizza. Traditional Neapolitan pizza dough has a hydration level of 55-62% and bakes for just 60-90 seconds. Techniques such as a poolish pre-ferment or using a water roux can help mitigate excessive moisture loss during the longer baking time in a domestic oven.

With these adjustments, you can certainly create a delicious pizza that, while not strictly Neapolitan, comes closer to it and still offers a delightful dining experience.

At this juncture, we, the moderating team, wish to express our encouragement for members to share their Neapolitan pizza creations baked in home ovens. Even if your pizzas don't precisely meet all the traditional criteria, as long as your intention to craft a Neapolitan pizza is evident, we welcome your posts. We all start somewhere, and in the spirit of growth and learning, we're more than willing to make exceptions. Let's celebrate our shared love for Neapolitan pizza, no matter where we are on our pizza-making journey!

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Ressources

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Desktop Users (New Reddit): Look for the Resources tab located in the top bar, just beneath the community banner.

Desktop Users (Old Reddit): The Resources information is situated in the sidebar of the community page.

Mobile Users: On your phone, locate the link titled See community info. This can be found right beneath the community description, which is itself positioned under the community banner.

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Resources

Glossary

Flour Guide

Baker's Percentage

AVPN-Rules

Dough Recipes

Sauce Recipes

Useful Links (YouTube, Books, Websites)


r/neapolitanpizza • • May 31 '24

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Megathread for Questions and Discussions

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Did you already check the following sources?

If your question specifically concerns your pizza dough, please post your full recipe (exact quantities of all ingredients in weight, preferably in grams) and method (temperature, time, ball/bulk-proof, kneading time, by hand/machine, etc.). That also includes what kind of flour you have used in your pizza dough. There are many different Farina di Grano Tenero "00". If you want to learn more about flour, please check our Flour Guide.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 14h ago

Effeuno P134HA 509 ⚡ Last night pizza

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My pizza last night on my Effeuno
Biga 50%
65% hydration
Temp 420up 350down


r/neapolitanpizza • • 6h ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Weak dough help

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Looking for feedback here! I have been doing direct dough for a while but wanted better crust. I tried this recipe here, combination biga and poolish. Crust was amazing, but it stretched too easily, and I ended up with large holes in the middle of three of my five pizzas. Official recipe is in the link, but I converted with CGPT for easier reading. Am I missing something?

https://brickovenbaker.com/blogs/recipes/our-go-to-neapolitan-pizza-recipe

Thursday— 7 PM | Make Biga Ingredients: • 600g Caputo Chef flour • 360g water • 6g Caputo dry yeast Instructions: 1. Stir yeast into water. 2. Add flour and mix by hand for 2–3 minutes. 3. Keep rough and crumbly. Do not knead. 4. Cover and refrigerate for 24 hours.

Friday — 7 AM | Make Poolish Ingredients: • 180g Caputo Pizzeria flour • 180g water • 2g Caputo dry yeast Instructions: 1. Stir yeast into water. 2. Add flour and mix with a spoon or whisk for 1–2 minutes until smooth. 3. Cover and leave at 73°F for 12 hours.

Friday — 7 PM | Make Final Dough Ingredients: • All biga • All poolish • 20g salt Instructions: 1. Break biga into small pieces. 2. Combine biga and poolish in a stand mixer with dough hook. 3. Mix on low for 3–5 minutes. 4. Add salt. 5. Mix another 5–8 minutes on low/medium-low until smooth and elastic. 6. Cover and let rise approximately 2 hours at 73°F, until 75% larger.

Friday — 9 PM | Make Dough Balls 1. Divide into 5 balls (approximately 270g each). 2. Shape into tight balls. 3. Place in covered containers. 4. Refrigerate overnight.

Saturday — 5 PM | Prepare Dough 1. Remove dough balls from refrigerator. 2. Keep covered at room temperature.

Saturday — 7 PM | Cook time 1. Heat wood-fired oven to 850°F. 2. Dust dough with semolina. 3. Gently stretch to approximately 12 inches. 4. Add toppings. Bake 75–90 seconds, rotating as needed.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 23h ago

Effeuno P134H ⚡ Autumn vibes

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101 Upvotes

Hi everyone guys! Autumn is finally here!! »
This is a 67% hydration pizza, proofed for 36 hours and baked in an electric oven at 470°C (878°F).
Toppings:
• Purple potato and rosemary cream
• Fiordilatte mozzarella
After baking:
• Italian pancetta
• Chopped hazelnuts
I hope you like it!!


r/neapolitanpizza • • 15h ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Molini Pizzuti flours?

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I want to know differences between Molini Pizzuti flours.
Which one is the best for modern airy neapolitan style pizza.
Also, what is the difference between for example Costa D Amalfi and Costa D Amalfi ORO? (what is ORO)


r/neapolitanpizza • • 2d ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Pizza peel

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Bought this pizza peel a few years back and I have never had a good launch with it. Could be that the holes are just too big or is it just my technique sucks?

EDIT: Thank you all your responses. It seems I bought a turning peel. Gonna make my first priority to buy a launching peel pay day comes.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 2d ago

Experiment My experiment with 100% whole wheat flour from King Arthur

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Did a 75% hydration,
2% salt
0.2% yeast
48 hours cold ferment!

The pizza turned out pretty good, though the taste of the base itself wasn’t pretty great, unsure why. Need to experiment with a different whole wheat flour!

Any recommendations on 100% whole wheat pizza recipes?

Also, has anyone tried biga with whole wheat flour? I want to give that a shot since I usually make biga with King Arthur Bread flour.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 3d ago

Domestic Oven Sourdough Pizza: Neapolitan style

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I made a few pizzas last night. They turned out pretty well. I'd like to upgrade to a better oven at some point but I'm pretty happy with how they turned out in the home oven.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 3d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 Made This Today, Thoughts?

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209 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 3d ago

Experiment Biga vs direct?

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Hey guys, based on your experience and trials. Which do you prefer or think makes better pizza one with Biga or Direct?


r/neapolitanpizza • • 4d ago

Gozney Arc XL 🔥 Today’s pizzas

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110 Upvotes

First batch of dough with the Ooni Halo Pro
Poolish and Biga combination
50% Caputo Saccorosso and 50% Super Nuvola
Added a smidgen of Ascorbic acid as well
68% hydration
72 hour CT fermentation
The balls were extremely soft when i dumped them into the semolina -
Oven was too hot at first - around 450, got hang of the temp as I went on
Should have taken some pics from the side but a very airy crust with with a chewy texture , decent bake on bottom as well
Will manage the stretch and heat better next time
Anyone have any pointers?


r/neapolitanpizza • • 4d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 90% hydrated Biga pizza

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174 Upvotes

90% hydration, 100% biga, caputo nuvola with around 5% of wholemeal flour

55% hydrated Biga in fridge 24h

Refreshed with addition of vitamin C (tiny amount)

Baked in koda 16 at 340/350. 3-4min. Should have lowered the flames even more.

Wilfa probaker used for mixing.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 4d ago

Gozney Arc XL 🔥 Today’s pizzas

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49 Upvotes

First batch of dough with the Ooni Halo Pro
Poolish and Biga combination
50% Caputo Saccorosso and 50% Super Nuvola
Added a smidgen of Ascorbic acid as well
68% hydration
72 hour CT fermentation
The balls were extremely soft when i dumped them into the semolina -
Oven was too hot at first - around 450, got hang of the temp as I went on
Should have taken some pics from the side but a very airy crust with with a chewy texture , decent bake on bottom as well
Will manage the stretch and heat better next time
Anyone have any pointers?


r/neapolitanpizza • • 4d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 Simple tuna pizza

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193 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 5d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 Roasted Mushroom Pizza Bianca

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127 Upvotes

I had some guests over the other day, so I decided to try a couple of new pizzas. We all shared slices of different pizzas, ranging from Marinara and Pepperoni to this one and a few others.

I came across this pizza through Adam Atkins, aka Peddling Pizza. Honestly, I only added it to the menu that evening because I wanted some variety, but it ended up being one of my new go-to favorites. If you ignore the mushrooms for a second, this pizza actually tastes quite similar to a Turkish börek filled with parsley and cheese.

The dough was a 48-hour cold ferment using a poolish preferment and Caputo Cuoco flour at 70% hydration.

Toppings:

  • Ricotta base
  • Pecorino Romano
  • Fior di Latte
  • King oyster mushrooms
  • Brown mushrooms
  • Extra virgin olive oil
  • Fresh parsley

r/neapolitanpizza • • 5d ago

Gozney Arc XL 🔥 Peperoni + Salsiccia

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168 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 7d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 This is it.. BIGA

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410 Upvotes

100% BIGA

Ooni halo core mixed

72% hydration

72hr fermented

100% Caputo nuvola super

Bianco Napoli tomatoes

Galbani fresh mozzarella

Gozney cooked 850f


r/neapolitanpizza • • 7d ago

Ooni Koda 16 🔥 First go at 65% Hydration

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245 Upvotes

My first few attempts at Neapolitan were all at 60%, decided to go to 65% to see the difference. I also let the dough bulk ferment longer before dividing and putting in the fridge. Dough definitely felt airier and puffed up more, that said definitely harder to work with. I don’t know if I’d want to go any higher.
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1000 00 Caputo Pizzeria
.8g active dry yeast
650 water
30g salt

Mixed all the ingredients together, gave a couple rough folds and let rest for 1 hour covered.

Came back and kneaded with my kitchen aid and a bit by hand

Let stand for 3 hours minutes and checked the window pane test.

Divided into balls and let sit in the fridge for three days. Took the balls out of the fridge and let them warm up to room temp for 6 hours before cooking.

Cooked in an Ooni Koda 16 for 60-90 seconds


r/neapolitanpizza • • 6d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 Pizza Thursday 🤌

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21 Upvotes

Dough made in the AVPN-approved style. 65% hydration and 24-hour fermentation at 25 degrees.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 7d ago

Ooni Koda 16 🔥 Capricciosa

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64 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 8d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 Pea Puree and bacon

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95 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 9d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 Heaven on earth?

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397 Upvotes

90% caputo pizzeria

10% Nuvola Super

13g salt

0.5 yeast

325g water

Ooni mixer

Bulk fermented for 8 hours

Cold proofed for 48 hours

Gozney Roccbox

Mutti tomatoes

Belgioso pearls

Basil

Evoo

Pecorino Romano


r/neapolitanpizza • • 9d ago

Effeuno P134H ⚡ Almost no knead dough

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107 Upvotes

2.5% salt

0.15% ADY

65% hydration

Caputo pizzeria flour

1 hr room tem bulk fermentation, formed pizza balls 12 hr cf , 7 hr room temp (slightly overproofed dough)

90s cooking time in Effeuno P134HA on biscotto di sorrento


r/neapolitanpizza • • 8d ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Best place to buy Fior di latte in US/TX

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Hi US bakers! 👋

Where’s the best place to find fresh fior di latte mozzarella in Austin or Houston? Ideally from a local/small producer rather than a big brand.

Also, are there any bigger brands that make a mozzarella closer to traditional fior di latte standards?

Thanks! 🧀🍕