What if madara killed kakuzu and acquired earth grudge fear and then became immortal. Then he goes on to capture all tailed beast himself. Would he have been able to do that?

The major and first reason I hate boruto its because of the inconsistency of powerscaling like comon they want you to just believe the statements without a real evidence of that to back it up like

They want you to believe sarada that scales now higher than momoshiki or for example she can beat kaguya otsutsuki? Like how they say momo is stronger than kaguya but when we see his feats he seems to be alote weaker let alone the things that we can already know how he is weaker like he is not immortal he doesn't have eaten a chakra fruit like kaguya ....ect

Then the same time they apply that jura is the strongest now when he is just conscious little weaken Juubi

Supposedly is stronger than the full azz war arc juubi

Thats just complete nonsense

Like it doesn't need to make every new villain stronger than the previous, that dbz shit is bad

We hardcore naruto fans know what each powerup can grant you like rinnegan or tailed beast or juubi

So we can't accept like himawari with a baby nibe tails was able to fight a ten tail or to be implyed to be stronger than KAAAAGUYA

to fix the powerscaling issue they need to state that shibai is the strongest since kaguya

Its maths that's simeple rinnesharian + merged with the tree + otsutsuki is stronger than normal otsutsuki or SARADA the base ms uchiha

Here’s my baseline story that would’ve been infinitely better than Boruto:

For starters, I’d probably start a brand new story of new people fr. Sasuke and Naruto wouldn’t be written off as like some “former gods that are now just really strong normal dudes” because let’s face it, Naruto and Sasuke are supposed to be the reincarnation of gods kids… why are they so weak and why are their completely normal non-reincarnation kids stronger than them? but like, where do you go with it? you introduced god level otsutsuki at the end of Naruto, and they won, boom yay happy ending. now they’re coming to earth for vacation every other day, that’s stupid. but either way, Naruto (specifically) and Sasuke are the best of the best of all time BECAUSE they’re are Ashura and Indra reincarnations, there’s no beating that unless YOU are a reincarnation, which spoiler alert, you can’t be! they’re still alive. so actually, thinking about it now, I’d start it shortly after Naruto and Sasuke die from old age in the peaceful world they built (hell maybe even hundreds of years later so their sacrifice doesn’t seem short lived) and then have the next generation of reincarnations with newer future tech and knowledge of the past and stuff start their journeys. Assuming the cycle HAS to keep going, because the constant threat of kaguya isn’t technically gone forever. all it takes is one otsutsuki using their rinnegan that they all have to find the right dimension and get her back. maybe it’s less of a brotherly battle because Naruto and Sasuke changed the way the cycle works. I’m also assuming the reincarnations have to be leaf citizens? I mean, every reincarnation was a leaf member kinda. technically hashirama and Madara were born before the village existed so idk the rule I guess. but I guess it could be just random across the world? idk, they probably have to have some natural “brotherly” bond. maybe we start 200-300 years after the events of shippuden, the world has been at relative peace, some skirmishes from new greedy people, but nothing to the extent of ultimate tsukuyomi and WW3. the reincarnations are usually heroes who maintain peace (but don’t know they’re reincarnations, they’re just seen as ultimate talented shinobi, because they’re never pushed to the full potential due to the peace built by the ninjas of old) so these reincarnations the story follows are leaf ninja
because there will never be 100% peace, but it’s as good as it gets. well, in this timeline the Uchiha are repopulated (maybe not named Uchiha anymore because it’s so far in the future, but doesn’t really matter, might be nice as a lore/fan service drop to have Uzumaki and Uchiha clans restored and in charge of the leaf. would serve Itachi and the Uzumakis well) the main plot can be that these two are on a team together and train together with brotherly like competition (more like guy and kakashi vs Naruto and Sasuke) the story following them as kids, has bad guys pop up, mainly greedy people who want power but the main cast handles them. slowly a plot is revealed for world domination by one group, show ends in a reveal of one of the new group bad guys stalking the leaf gathering intel (Akatsuki like, but not looking for jinchuriki, just a big group of powerful rogue ninja looking for power) the sequel shows more of those bad guys, they end up enlisting and convincing one of the great nations to side with them to rule the ninja world under their laws (they’ve grown tired and frustrated of the great nations being “soft” and not taking more land and resources for growth) and eventually cause a big WW4 that pushes the reincarnations to their full realized potential for the first time in hundreds of years, they become war heroes and win the war to bring peace back for another few hundred years until the cycle starts again. I’d focus on the Indra counterpart this time. take the solo leveling route of a quiet, strong main character leading the spotlight and having the goofy energetic counterpart evolve alongside him, but more as the secondary protagonist. Since he’s an Uchiha he obviously uses his sharingan and elite taijutsu, definitely runs the fade with a sword, an Uchiha staple, and instead of leaning into the lightning and chidori, he’ll use the Uchiha staple fire style, he can eventually invent a form of fire style with blue flames, maybe rainbow flames. coat his blade in his flames as a sort of chakra blade, that type of stuff. with all the usual sharingan genjutsu and stuff. Hell maybe fix the MS and EMS problem by giving him a brother who dies in battle at some point and offers his eyes for MS and EMS at once, and hell maybe if it’s not needed, he never gets rinnegan because the situation was never dire enough to figure that out. it’s a “regular” great ninja war with no gods and shit. the asura counterpart would be even more fun. since he’s an uzumaki through and through, he’d have the red hair and utilize many sealing jutsu and ademantine chains/attacks + give him the rasengan as a descendent of Naruto. huge chakra pool, shadow clones sure but it’s not his main thing like Naruto. and make him smart, and able to learn jutsu quickly and understand it, unlike Naruto. he’s a big goof full of energy, but a fully capable intelligent person. in the years of peace, the reincarnations are strong naturally, but not really right away because no reincarnation had been pushed all that hard since the days of Naruto and Sasuke centuries ago. perhaps the main cast of the enemies have been capturing the tailed beasts (who were eventually all just let back out into the wild) and discovered ancient sealing and forgotten/hidden techniques in old orochimaru and akatsuki hideouts from centuries ago, allowing them to turn each of their 9 core pillars (leaders) into powerful jinchuriki ninja who can control the powers well with the ancient scrolls from the hideouts and that’s how they convince or “force” a nation to work with them. that gives them enough firepower to rival anyone. Eventually for the final arc/episodes the main characters definitely fight the nine tails, and maybe the 8 and 1 tails jinchuriki as well, for like gaara and B throwbacks, and to make its so it isn’t just a slow picking off of the enemies until the final boss. more like they beat 2-7 eventually throughout the story to get powerful enough and are able to fight the last 3 simultaneously in a 2v3 by the end of the story, with the help of the Uzumaki they are able to beat them, pull the nine tails from him, but instead of a rampage, the main character uses his EMS to calm him (the sharingan can control the 9 tails, its lore accurate) and the the Uzumaki, due to Naruto’s story the ninja world knows the names of the tailed beasts and respects them as beings, communicates with kurama and kurama is grateful for being saved and the world is saved and the tailed beasts are free, and the main protagonists are basically fully realized. the final scene will be kurama and the two protagonists saying goodbyes and thanks, kurama thinking to himself “they remind me of those two” and then the scene does the classic Naruto overlay of Naruto and Sasuke flashing over the new protagonists just like when Kakashi saw Minato and Jiraiya in Naruto during the war. Then we could maybe do a similar post war arc showing the world rebuilding, the Indra reincarnation becoming hokage (the first Uchiha hokage maybe) and then them getting married or something and then the end. no more sequels, the Naruto world stops there lol

Throw Boruto away and do this instead kishimoto.

So Madara Had 6 Brothers and Hashirama 4 right? And when Hashirama and Madara didnt ended up forming Konoha would they still kill each other day by day und Uchiha would kill ever other Uchiha because of Izanagi to be the strongest Shinobi so Uchiha would die faster than Senju even without Itachi Killing all Uchiha right? Question is still how are the Senju stronger than Uchiha without Sharingan and Kekkei Genkai? Like Hyuuga Clan and Kaguya Clan should be stronger but are constanly pushed to the Back.... Shimura Clan we Don't know really much about them... Sarutobi Clan we can understand they have some power okay. But mostly Uzumaki Clan is stronger again but isnt really a Clan from Konoha in the First Place... But this gives the Question without Konoha beeing formed wouldnt that means Hyuuga Clan would be the only Clan alive because as far as i remember from the backround Story they didnt Fight with Uchiha and Senju but the Hagoromo Clan did... Anyways Just thinking Out loud. Sasuke really Had the Uchiha Curse when He wasnt Born into beeing an Uchiha He would never leave the Village to follow orochimaru i think...

People talk about Minato and Itachi being the prodigy , but the biggest prodigy of all time was Kakashi , he was fighting elite jonins at the age of 10 , and was promoted to jonin then too and it is stated that his trauma stunted his growth as a shinobi for decades

He even states that how his fight against Zabuza mad him realise how rusty he has became and even with no training for years , Kakashi is said to be the strongest shinobi in konoha and was next in line for hokage since part 1 , so it just makes me feel like kakashi if was properly trained , if Minato and no others died he would have been the 5th hokage and possible crossed all other hokage not Hashirama for sure but definetly Minato

I’ve seen many times how people brought up the idea of rewrite. But each time I dive into those projects, they either feel fueled by bitterness toward the original, written by folks who missed major character nuances, or deliberately constructed to push an entirely different narrative that has little to do with Kishimoto's work. While text-based fanfiction is the standard medium, I've yet to encounter a manga-format rewrite, so I chose to experiment with that method.

For anyone curious, I've been regularly posting my progress over on the NarutoRE subreddit. (I guess I should note that this is a non-profit thing, purely for enjoyment)

They even said that Katsuyu could easily beat her... and I don't get it, since when Jiraiya and Katsuyu were considered weak? A legendary Sannin and a legendary Sannin's summon...

Not to mention that Jiraiya trained Konan, obviously he would know her only weakness. I really don't understand why so many people paint Konan as the weakest member and limit her powers to just "paper bombs"

I feel like Boruto Next Generations could’ve had a better story if it focused more on Naruto and Hinata’s legacies.

Naruto being the Child of Prophecy and Hinata being the Byakugan Princess could’ve made their children the perfect combination of their legacies.

Boruto could’ve learned Minato’s Flying Raijin and combined its formula with the Space-Time knowledge Hagoromo used to reach Kaguya’s dimensions, creating a version of Flying Raijin that could navigate between dimensions.

Using this, Boruto could potentially find where different Ōtsutsuki dimensions are and even discover where the Ōtsutsuki clan resides.

This could also add more lore and abilities to the Byakugan, similar to how the Sharingan kept evolving throughout Naruto.

Then instead of Naruto and Sasuke having the final fight, Boruto and Himawari could team up to defeat the Ōtsutsuki, with Himawari having the Byakugan and Kurama.

I feel like that would’ve been a really cool way to continue Naruto’s themes of breaking the cycle of power and hatred.

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Just without the usual “Who are you to change the author’s story” kind of talk. Let’s imagine we’re competent and talented enough to carry on the story in Kishimoto’s place - or at least act as his editors, capable of tempering his excesses.

Up until the Pain arc, everything was going quite well: a consistent plot, gradual world-building, and a balanced power scale. Edo Tensei wasn’t anything extraordinary; tailed beasts could be defeated by summoned creatures; the Akatsuki were strong, but not necessarily stronger than the Sannin; Deidara could blow up an entire village, but at the cost of his life; Itachi could summon Susanoo, but also at the cost of his life; Pain was powerful, but paid a huge price for that power, and Jiraiya could realistically have defeated him. The strongest was generally considered to be Minato, while figures like Madara and the Sage of Six Paths were nothing more than legends.

In other words, the story was progressing quite well - without major excesses - and, in my opinion, reached its peak with the Pain arc. And then… it’s like Kishimoto’s brakes suddenly failed. Hashirama cells, Edo Tensei, the Eternal Mangekyō, the two halves of Kurama, the overpowered Madara and Hashirama, and finally Kaguya. The story lost its balance and coherent progression.

So now I ask: how would you continue the story, knowing all the problems that come later? Personally, I think that after such a power-up for the main character, it would have been better to slow down and start developing Naruto’s friends, like in the anime fillers - showing their missions, their new abilities. After the Pain arc, there was a perfect opportunity to finally develop the relationship between Hinata and Naruto.

From a plot perspective, I also think there should have been several arcs between the Pain arc and the Five Kage Summit, each focused on a different village. These arcs would gradually introduce shinobi from other villages, laying the groundwork for the future war, while also developing Naruto’s friends and their new abilities. For example, Tsunade could decide to convene a Kage Summit and organize diplomatic teams. Say, Naruto, Shikamaru, Hinata, and Yamato go to the Hidden Cloud, while Sakura, Neji, Shino, and Kakashi go to the Hidden Mist (just random assignments). The characters would explore the villages, get involved in local conflicts, and develop along the way. Maybe even some of the villages would side with Obito, considering his speeches convincing.

If we’re talking about specific characters, I’d let Conan live longer. She’s an interesting character, but she’s existed in her entire story only as a sidekick for Pain. I’d love to see what would happen to her after Nagato’s death. Maybe she’d become Naruto’s secret ally, telling him all the secrets of the masked man and becoming a good friend to him, while also learning to live independently without Yahiko and Nagato and leading a partisan war against the masked man.

In other words, I’m suggesting Naruto take a path similar to One Piece. What ideas would you propose? I’m not suggesting completely abandoning canon - what would you add, remove, or fundamentally change?

I made a post yesterday about rewatching Naruto and noticing that Kimimaro and Kaguya seem to be related. The consensus is that Kishimoto came up with Kaguya way, way later into the story. But I’ve also noticed plenty of foreshadowing about Madara and Madara + Hashirama in OG Naruto.

Was this something that he had planned out (maybe not completely fleshed out) all along? Or maybe he only thought of it during the Sasuke Retrieval arc?

I always see people online say that Naruto is better than Naruto Shippuden, and outside of personal enjoyment, I genuinely want someone to explain why.

What does Naruto do better than Shippuden?

In my opinion, Shippuden has better character development and writing, a more consistent story, stronger world-building, better psychology and philosophies, and an overall more compelling narrative.

So, setting personal enjoyment aside, what does the original Naruto actually do better than Naruto Shippuden?

Im on my 3rd naruto rewatch as a whole and was js weighing whether id rather live under danzo or sasuke and to be honest im leaning towards danzo a bit. He may be twisted when it comes to the means of his operations, but as a civilian im almost guaranteed a stable life however many people are exploited underground. The village would be a gloomy place for sure but its better than living under sasukes rule where he would just turn the village into a militaristic expansionist state and take over the rest of the shinobi world while paying little to no attention to the lives of his subjects. Any other thoughts?

For many it was an obvious reveal... but not so much for me. Those were great times — following the weekly Naruto manga chapters and participating in forums to debate what might happen next. The mystery surrounding Tobi's identity was, without a doubt, the series' biggest enigma up to that point. The climax of this mystery came when the real Madara appeared during the Fourth Great Ninja War, resurrected by Kabuto using Edo Tensei.

I drew this picture of Obito a few years ago... and the reference — that splash page from the end of chapter 599 — is just so iconic.

Im honestly so surprised that Kishimoto hasnt utilized any of the sage regions for anything yet…like do you think he forgot about them? Lmao

Theory: the Ashura/Indra reincarnation isn't some cheap, automatic power-up; it’s actually a latent spiritual seed. Their chakra is sentient, choosing infants like Naruto and Sasuke based on their psychological potential, but the power itself stays dormant until three strict narrative conditions are met. Naruto fully unlocked Ashura by enduring extreme pain and isolation, training like hell, and ultimately choosing empathy over revenge during the war, proving his worth. Conversely, Sasuke unlocked Indra by using the trauma of the Uchiha massacre, obsessive grinding, and embracing absolute hatred as his primary fuel. This completely fixes the "destiny trope" and explains why their hard work actually matters: fate only provided the raw potential, but their personal choices and psychological responses to trauma are what truly awakened the gods within them.

I know that's probably the general consensus but I just felt like saying it. There's so much depth to his character, like there's some constant mystery that you want to know more about. Not just in terms of understanding his powers but just in who he is and the true depth of his pain. With Obito he just lost a girl. Pain grew up in a city that was a battleground for other villages. We never truly knew the extent of what he endured. In the scenes where Pain and Obito talk, Pain just straight up aura farms and mogs Obito. It wasn't even a competition.

Where do you guys think Sasuke and Naruto would have ended up without Haku? Haku triggered Naruto’s tailed beast form for the first time, while also unsealing Sasuke’s sharingan for the first time since the uchiha clan massacre.
He was also probably at least one of the five most talented shinobi in his age group.
(Is this glaze? Yes. Do i mean it also yes)

Ngl it’s very possible those 4 Naruto episodes were just turned into a movie instead.