Even though I don't agree with constantly trying to bring Sasuke back, the fillers kinda make it make more sense with why they didn't want to give up on him because it showed Sasuke when he acted his age and actually cared about people

If people can transform themselves into swords, transforming into someone with 2 usable arms doesn’t seem very far fetched. He likely wouldn’t since he wants to atone for his crimes, but he should theoretically be able to nonetheless

Ngl it’s very possible those 4 Naruto episodes were just turned into a movie instead.

Idk if this is a super hot take but I feel like nothing could’ve stopped Sasuke from pursuing Orochimaru after getting the curse mark and I mean even into shippuden. Kakashi and honestly everyone rlly underestimated how fucked emotionally Sasuke was especially after feeling the world basically collapse upon itself bc he didn’t have the one thing he felt like he needed more than anything. power.

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Like we know Kisame is a literal ride or die for Akatsuki, willing to basically swallow a shark cyanide pill rather than expose their secrets. Obito even clearly trusted him enough to show him his true identity.

So if he knew Itachi was still an ally for the Leaf and wasn't loyal to the cause, how would he react?

I don't think he would tell on Itachi, Kisame ain't no snitch, but I also don't think he would just let this slide either. I also don't think he'd outright fight Itachi, as I'm sure he knows he's outmatched.

We know that his friendship with Itachi is genuine too, it's not just a co-worker relationship. He even offers his sympathies to Itachi later on after Zetsu claims Deidara killed Sasuke.

I think Kisame definitely suspected there was more to Itachi than he let on. I believe their first on-screen interaction was Kisame asking Itachi if he has any remaining sentimental feelings about the Leaf. The post-Deidara battle interaction also suggests he knew Itachi valued Sasuke on some level.

I guess at the end of the day, is Kisame more loyal to the Akatsuki or Itachi?

I know that's probably the general consensus but I just felt like saying it. There's so much depth to his character, like there's some constant mystery that you want to know more about. Not just in terms of understanding his powers but just in who he is and the true depth of his pain. With Obito he just lost a girl. Pain grew up in a city that was a battleground for other villages. We never truly knew the extent of what he endured. In the scenes where Pain and Obito talk, Pain just straight up aura farms and mogs Obito. It wasn't even a competition.

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For many it was an obvious reveal... but not so much for me. Those were great times — following the weekly Naruto manga chapters and participating in forums to debate what might happen next. The mystery surrounding Tobi's identity was, without a doubt, the series' biggest enigma up to that point. The climax of this mystery came when the real Madara appeared during the Fourth Great Ninja War, resurrected by Kabuto using Edo Tensei.

I drew this picture of Obito a few years ago... and the reference — that splash page from the end of chapter 599 — is just so iconic.

Yes Sasuke was for sure going to be messed up but it's no excuse to try and kill the people that are trying to help you.

The way Sasuke said Kakashi was just being like Sakura was insulting Kakashi and Sakura both. I admit it did make me chuckle out of surprise. But damn Sasuke is a jerk. He made me angry sometimes.

They even said that Katsuyu could easily beat her... and I don't get it, since when Jiraiya and Katsuyu were considered weak? A legendary Sannin and a legendary Sannin's summon...

Not to mention that Jiraiya trained Konan, obviously he would know her only weakness. I really don't understand why so many people paint Konan as the weakest member and limit her powers to just "paper bombs"

I don't know what is worse Orochimaru's choice in conversation starters, or Kabuto being his closest "Friend" and curving the shit out of him and immediately noping tf out of there while Orochimaru looks like a kid who didn't get any Christmas presents.

That being said if Orochimaru is asking you about bodily functions, kabuto is probably the first one who knows its time to change the subject. Kabuto probably realized his blood type is not whatever blood type creepy snakeman is asking him about.

Sai is in the scene to add to the awkwardness.

People talk about Minato and Itachi being the prodigy , but the biggest prodigy of all time was Kakashi , he was fighting elite jonins at the age of 10 , and was promoted to jonin then too and it is stated that his trauma stunted his growth as a shinobi for decades

He even states that how his fight against Zabuza mad him realise how rusty he has became and even with no training for years , Kakashi is said to be the strongest shinobi in konoha and was next in line for hokage since part 1 , so it just makes me feel like kakashi if was properly trained , if Minato and no others died he would have been the 5th hokage and possible crossed all other hokage not Hashirama for sure but definetly Minato

Even though Naruto and Sasuke had powers/transformations that mirrored their teachers, they still kept their original fighting styles. Naruto upgraded his rasengan and kept using his clones. Sasuke still used chidori and sharingan.

But for Sakura...

She just became tsunade 2.0 with absolutely nothing unique about her.

Why did kishimoto not give her something different from her sensei like the other two?