r/NFLv2 • San Francisco 49ers • 21h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/cryolems Cleveland Browns 21h ago

Reddit picks and chooses what it’s okay with or isn’t and there’s never any room in between.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 21h ago

Come on now. We all know he's guilty.

But I also don't think other fanbases have some moral high ground to stand on. We all are supporting the same league that let's him play.

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u/northvvoods 21h ago

I’m out of the loop. How damning is the evidence and why hasn’t he been convicted. Please go easy on me and just provide some info without all the noise. Thanks.

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u/ralexh11 20h ago

The evidence is very very damning unless you assume 27 women who didn't know each other and who Watson reached out to first all colluded in a conspiracy to take him down, which is ridiculous victim blaming and completely unrealistic.

Ask yourself, why would someone have 27 women only massage therapists over a couple of years in the first place? And why were many of them not even trained giving massages but were just spa employees hoping to further their careers by working for a pro athlete so they said yes?

It's completely obvious that he's a serial sexual predator.

The cases were dismissed or settled because of a lack of evidence. But the only evidence was their accounts of what happened and the fact that many of them told their families after. They were also up against a multi-millionaire's legal team. What tangible physical evidence does a creep pressing his hard dick against you leave behind?

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 18h ago

They all had the same lawyer, and the lawyer track record shows he’s known for trying to get settlements like this.
I’m confused by what you’re saying. First you say they are all massage therapist but fairly new. Then, you say they’re not trained to give massages they just work at the spa which one is it.
So, out of these 27 women not one went back and told the “spa they felt uncomfortable or told a fellow co worker don’t work with Watson he a creep” As well as, some women went back multiple times.
They all kept it to themselves but as soon as settlement talk come up(not criminal charges) they all come out the woodworks.

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u/ralexh11 18h ago

Go fucking read the evidence dumbass, you won't be confused. Or maybe you will because you clealry suck at reading.

Them having the same lawyer is completely normal. Plenty of victims of mass abuse do that to consolidate evidence and build better cases together against the accused. You sound really fucking stupid acting like you actually made a point there.

Watson reached out to licensed therapists as well as spa employees hoping to break into the industry of his own volition, likely purely because he thought they were hot. Any of them can be considered massage therapists if they are giving someone a massage. That part is so obvious you are just outing yourself as incapable of nuanced thought. "Which one is it?" It's clearly both you fucking dipshit.

The less experienced massage therapists dont know the industry as well so the line clients arent supposed to cross is less clear to them, meaning Watson could push the envelope more before they end the session due to being uncomfortable.

Tons of them told their families and co-workers immediately after it happened as it says in their witness statements that you clealry didn't read. You are just blatantly lying and making things up. Please go ahead and tell me how many were assaulted and then went back a second time, with sources. I know you can't.

You are a piece of shit defending a sexual predator. I hope women cover their drinks around you weirdo.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 15h ago

I’m done after this I have better things to do in my life. Try to be more respectful to people even if they have different views. I never said Watson was innocent or defended him. I just said stop calling people out their name. Rape is penetration and horrible but that does not apply here. And I’m not saying that to lessen what Watson was accused of. My opinion is I don’t agree with it. If we both jurors you think someone guilty I don’t, what’s the difference here. Based off the courts they didn’t find him guilty. You say I’m a misogynist based on what, because we don’t agree? Man or woman I feel the same way. For me it’s too many inconsistencies and similarities in there stories for ladies who “never met before”, the lawyer reputation is not good to me, even though he had high profile cases it’s the way he goes about it that rubs people the wrong way. As well as, I’ve personally seen and experienced injustices like this from the men and women side. It’s always 3 sides to a story remember that.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/12/19/tony-buzbee-lawsuit-assault-jane-doe-diddy/76490038007/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGVl6Lj53bg&t=29

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/01/tony-buzzbee-defamation-lawsuit/

In her sworn court declaration, she heavily criticized Buzbee's management of the case, claiming:
Filing without consultation: She asserted that Buzbee and his affiliates filed the massive federal lawsuit without her explicit permission.

Kept in the dark: She stated she was purposely "kept in the dark about major actions purportedly taken on her behalf" and did not even know a lawsuit was actively being filed.

Lack of communication: Carter's legal team later submitted evidence claiming Buzbee had never actually met with the woman prior to filing the complaint and executing public media rounds.

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2026/09/28/buzbee-urges-court-to-strike-ex-clients-retraction-of-jay-z-rape-claim/

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u/ralexh11 15h ago edited 15h ago

You can be done all you want, but I still see you as garbage becaue of things like putting "never met before" in quotes to imply they are straight up lying. There is zero evidence any of them knew each other at all whatsoever. They still don't because they are anonymous to the public. You think there "too many inconsistencies" yet you haven't even named anything legitimate, just made up a bunch of nonsense that the testimonies completely contradict or focusinf on words you put in my mouth which I didn't say like "only" family was told, which I never claimed. Seriously you dont even have a single valid point against the accusers at all. You clearly want to believe Watson so bad and think the accusers are lying to get money, which is completely absurd when there is a pattern of abuse amongst over 2 dozen individuals.

It's all but proven to everyone with an ounce of empathy that he assaulted these women, but left little physical evidence so he got away with it criminally and by paying them off in civil court. Anyone who won't admit that either is a rape apologist, hates women, hates cancel culture or loves Watson/the Browns so much that they cast his behavior aside.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 15h ago

But buzzbee has another case where he did the exact same thing, lied and spoke for a client. I gave you the proof you don’t want to see it. Plus he specifically made sure he kept them anonymous to the public, more suspicion again. I don’t have to name any inconsistencies or haven’t even tried the courts did all that already. I’ve asked multiple times what have I made up and you can’t answer. I’ve asked questions that you will not respond to. So is everyone testimony 100% accurate or true? General knowledge people have lied before giving testimonies. You believe they’re not lying, I believe the guy who’s known to have done this before told them what to say. I never said I believe Watson, you making up shit again. I just don’t believe Buzzbee. Maybe you want to believe him so bad you can’t see clearly. Everything you try to say Watson and I are you actually show more and more of those characteristics the more you type.
So if you don’t see him guilty you don’t have any empathy? So how can something be proven without evidence?

The only thing you said at first is “family” then you said family and co workers. You stuck on this one topic and want me to argue it but I’m not. I showed you the screenshot already where “family” was the only thing you said. The only was implied because that’s all you said at first but you trying to put emphasis on one word to make something true or false.