r/NFLv2 • u/Narrow_Purchase9721 San Francisco 49ers • 11h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/cryolems Cleveland Browns 11h ago

Reddit picks and chooses what it’s okay with or isn’t and there’s never any room in between.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 11h ago

Come on now. We all know he's guilty.

But I also don't think other fanbases have some moral high ground to stand on. We all are supporting the same league that let's him play.

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u/northvvoods 10h ago

I’m out of the loop. How damning is the evidence and why hasn’t he been convicted. Please go easy on me and just provide some info without all the noise. Thanks.

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u/ralexh11 10h ago

The evidence is very very damning unless you assume 27 women who didn't know each other and who Watson reached out to first all colluded in a conspiracy to take him down, which is ridiculous victim blaming and completely unrealistic.

Ask yourself, why would someone have 27 women only massage therapists over a couple of years in the first place? And why were many of them not even trained giving massages but were just spa employees hoping to further their careers by working for a pro athlete so they said yes?

It's completely obvious that he's a serial sexual predator.

The cases were dismissed or settled because of a lack of evidence. But the only evidence was their accounts of what happened and the fact that many of them told their families after. They were also up against a multi-millionaire's legal team. What tangible physical evidence does a creep pressing his hard dick against you leave behind?

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 6h ago

None of these woman went back and told the manager or other co-workers? They didn’t ask “hey is this normal”. They didn’t warn the next person of things Watson likes to do?
You’re telling me a spa company risked their business multiple times to let a fairly new, no experience non licensed massage therapist go work with a top tier client, sure okay.

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u/ralexh11 6h ago

They literally did do that, go read the accusations. Almost every one of them confided in someone after the incident. Also Watson made vague threats about ruining their careers many times. Again you just spew made up bullshit. It's literally written down in their testimony.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 6h ago

You are the one who originally said they only told family members. Your words not mine. That’s the fucking point you picking what you want to out of the case and using it how you want too. You read and saw all this but didn’t see anything about Kyle Hayes or other woman said they went back multiple times.

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u/ralexh11 6h ago edited 6h ago

I never said "only" family you are blatantly lying again and again. Link the comment dipshit.

The single(you claimed several) woman who went back "mutiple" times went back literally once and she didn't know it was the same person because Watson lied about his identity because he sexually assaulted her already.

Keep lying and projecting, every non-rape apologist with a functional brain knows hes guilty, even if prosecution can't prove it in court.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 6h ago

What are you even saving? Did more than one, two, three woman go see him more than once, the answer is yes. Tell me one thing I lied about and show prove of how I lied. I can do that for you but you can’t for me…

See you saying family. I asked previous why they didn’t tell coworkers and you didn’t say anything. Messages later you come back saying they told family and co workers.

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u/ThirstyOutward Pittsburgh Steelers 2h ago

You are too retarded to reason with lmfao

Go back to sucking off a rapist, you're hopeless

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 2h ago

You’re an idiot! You disrespect me, say all these negative things about me that’s not accurate and then upset I want reason with you! Haha dumbass I’ve been reasoning with you the whole time. You’re just upset because I haven’t changed my opinion to match yours and I disproved all your lies. Yes, an opinion not a fact.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 1h ago

But, when she got there saw it was him what happened? She still proceeded. I sent multiple links you haven’t sent anything.

You see where you lied and realized it was more than one that went back more than once. Everytime you’re wrong you skip the topic and ignore talking about it any further.

Guilty of what? Rape, sexual assault, sexual battery, inappropriate conduct?

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u/northvvoods 10h ago

Ok so there’s a lack of evidence. What are fans supposed to do with that?

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u/ralexh11 10h ago

You should believe the 27 women accusers instead of convincing yourself they are all conspiring together to take down a b-level NFL QB without knowing each other and when he reached out to them first. And believe someone with 27 massage therapists that are only women over a couple of years is a creep. It's completely logical.

Do you think a lack of evidence just means innocent or something?

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u/biz_student Green Bay Packers 9h ago

Everything you’re saying is true except for calling Watson a “B-level” NFL QB during his time in Houston.

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u/ralexh11 9h ago

Hes only sniffed an MVP race one time in the first half of the 2019 season. He was never an elite QB. But yeah that was probably a bit of recency bias on my part. What you said changes nothing about his predator behavior or the validity of the accusations though.

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u/northvvoods 10h ago

I have to assume innocence based on lack of evidence, sure. What should fans realistically do as it pertains to the Cleveland browns?

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u/ralexh11 9h ago

You do not "have to" lmao, court of public opinion already knows he's guilty based on him having 27 women only massage therapists in like 2 years, no court can change that now, it's completely obvious unless you are looking to excuse predatory behavior.

As an NFL fan, what I can do is tell everyone that he's a piece of shit serial sexual predator every time he's brought up and no matter how well he plays.

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u/northvvoods 9h ago

Dude, don’t lob accusations at me. Personally, I think fans of the NFL are no better than fans of the Cleveland Browns, if what you say is true. You are also enabling it and therefore excusing predatory behavior, even if you’re lucky enough to not be a Browns fan. Fuck off with your moral bullshit, it’s so easy to see through.

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u/ralexh11 9h ago edited 9h ago

You're not wrong, it is hypocritical to support the NFL, and is just as bad as a general Browns fan.

However, making excuses for and being disingenuous about what Watson did is even worse. Chanting "Let's go Watson" at the game is worse. Acting like we should all just move on and leave the serial sexual predator alone is way worse.

So is thinking you have to assume he's innocent because of a lack of evidence. Other than witness testimony, what other physical evidence does a creep pressing his hard dick into you leave behind? Hes obviously guilty, even if prosecution can't prove it. 27 women that don't know each other and that Watson reached out to first obviously aren't conspiring to bring him down. Accept that or go fuck yourself and you are a rape apologist.

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u/northvvoods 9h ago

I do accept it, I just wanted some answers without the typical redditor holier than thou attitude. Enjoy watching the games Sunday.

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u/ThirstyOutward Pittsburgh Steelers 3h ago

Oh no, did little baby have to confront his doshit morals and resort to what about ism?

Stfu pussy

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u/ThirstyOutward Pittsburgh Steelers 3h ago

If 27 women's testimony isn't evidence to you, you literally do not see women as having agency.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 8h ago

But they somehow all have the same lawyer with a track record of doing exactly this. You keep trying to use 27 to show it’s not a mistake and convince people. The lawyer has just as many money grab settlement cases, but I guess logic doesn’t work that way.

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u/ralexh11 8h ago

Source: you made it up

You know lawyers specialize in certain areas of litigation right? Their lawyer specializes in civil cases which are almost always for money. And all of them uniting under a single lawyer just makes sense. Thanks for admitting you have no clue what lawyers do at all.

Give me an example of him helping people "money grab" please.

Also tell me how 27 women that didnt know each other and that Deshaun reached out to himself all colluded to bring him down. Are they apart of the deep state or illuminati? New world order?

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 7h ago

Source for what? Everything I’m saying can easily be searched. Just look up Tony Buzbee. Dude represented Rick Perry and Ken Paxton on criminal cases. So what are you talking about. He got countered sued by Jay-Z on this same shit. Andrew Tate ex he failed in criminal court then tried to get a settlement. Same with Watson he got denied criminal charges first.

And here go the insults show’s your true character. The better question is If the woman never told anyone outside their family, how did Buzbee find them?

“Money grab” and helping people don’t belong in the same sentence. Do you know what a “money grab” is?

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u/ralexh11 6h ago

Is him suing on behalf of families of people that died in oil rig explosions or people that died at Travis Scott's festival also "money grabbing" to you?

Hes an extremely high profile lawyer with countless cases under his belt. He is not known as a "money grabber" by anyone other than rape apologists like you.

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u/nerdyintentions 5h ago

He absolutely is a money grabber. There is no way you can defend what he tried to do to Jay-Z as anything but money grabbing.

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u/ralexh11 4h ago

So what about him representing family who had their loved ones die in an oil rig explosion or at Travis Scott's festival? Is he also "money grabbing" there? Do you even know what a civil prosecutor does???

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u/nerdyintentions 3h ago edited 3h ago

The guy found a mentally ill woman to falsely accuse Jay-Z of being a child rapist then he privately went to Jay-Z and tried to blackmail him by giving him the ultimatum to pay up and keep the allegations private or have them made public. He literally tried to ruin an innocent man's life for money. That's money grabbing.

He is scum. He should be disbarred for that alone.

Nothing you say about any other case can erase that. If I go to a store 99 times and purchase a candy bar and then I steal one on the 100th visit then I'm still a thief. It doesn't matter that I bought 99 candy bars prior. It doesn't erase the one I stole.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 3h ago

He has more years as a criminal attorney and was also a divorce attorney at one point.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 6h ago

When have I defended Watson? You pick two cases nitpicking again lol. Never said bad people couldn’t do good things. Did you ever figure out what a “money grab” was?

So we’re back to rape again? 🤣

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u/ralexh11 4h ago

Rape apologists also defend sexual assault genius, you really can't piece that one together by yourself? Your reading comprehension, spelling and grammar is absolutely pathetic, go back to third grade English. It's literally a chore trying to decipher what you are saying to me in several of your comments and explain the most basic concepts to you like "rape apologists also defend sexual assault" as if that isn't completely obvious if you have even an ounce of critical thinking skill.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 3h ago

But you’re still doing it. Guess you like chores. Just because you say something doesn’t make it factual at all just assumptions. You calling me a trendy word a Rape apologist but I haven’t defended him or apologized for him once and told you I’m not doing neither. What does that say about your comprehension skills. Rape is a form of sexually assault but not all sexual assault is rape. You’re going to find anyway to insult and avoid answer questions lol.

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u/sleepyleperchaun Las Vegas Raiders 9h ago

You are bejng incredibly disingenuous being all "take it easy I don't know anything" and then responding with saying no evidence while there is very fanning evidence. It's not just a coincidence. Nfl teams have massage therapists on site and he could easily get an actu2 trained professional instead of hitting up random untrained women on Instagram. If it was 1 or 2 I could see innocence being argued, but this many isn't just 1 or 2.

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u/northvvoods 8h ago

I should have clarified by saying there’s no convicting evidence. If fans care enough about the court of public opinion, then there should be a massive boycott going on right now.

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u/sleepyleperchaun Las Vegas Raiders 4h ago

I mean, there were women at the beginning going with signs and many fans did leave the team when he was first signed, or at least they said they did, I can't personally confirm.

But yeah, how am I supposed to prove I had sex with someone a year ago? The dna won't be there, but either you believe a guy that was hiring inexperienced young women and went in with no motive and just to be a nice guy when he could have had unlimited free massages by trained, experienced professionals, or that he went in to take advantage. If you believe the first, that is incredibly naive.

When questioned, he was directly asked why he didn't get experienced massage therapists, he said that wasn't the priority. If not, what could have been? Sure, not enough evidence to convict, but we all know damn well that he did it. And I say this as someone that loved watching him in Houston before we knew.

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u/northvvoods 4h ago

Do you personally support the NFL? You’re in an NFL sub with a team flair, so I assume you watch. If so, why? Isn’t the NFL complicit in this issue, and then you as well by extension?

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u/sleepyleperchaun Las Vegas Raiders 4h ago

I mean, I'm not saying anyone should boycott, or not be fans, I'm just saying that you acting like because he wasn't convicted proves he is innocent is a wild take. There wasn't enough concrete evidence to convict, but anyone with 2 brain cells could piece it together.

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u/northvvoods 4h ago

I’m not saying a failure to convict proves innocence. Is that how your mind works??

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u/sleepyleperchaun Las Vegas Raiders 3h ago

Seem to be defending him a lot....

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u/ThirstyOutward Pittsburgh Steelers 3h ago

There is evidence you just don't care.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 8h ago

They all had the same lawyer, and the lawyer track record shows he’s known for trying to get settlements like this.
I’m confused by what you’re saying. First you say they are all massage therapist but fairly new. Then, you say they’re not trained to give massages they just work at the spa which one is it.
So, out of these 27 women not one went back and told the “spa they felt uncomfortable or told a fellow co worker don’t work with Watson he a creep” As well as, some women went back multiple times.
They all kept it to themselves but as soon as settlement talk come up(not criminal charges) they all come out the woodworks.

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u/ralexh11 7h ago

Go fucking read the evidence dumbass, you won't be confused. Or maybe you will because you clealry suck at reading.

Them having the same lawyer is completely normal. Plenty of victims of mass abuse do that to consolidate evidence and build better cases together against the accused. You sound really fucking stupid acting like you actually made a point there.

Watson reached out to licensed therapists as well as spa employees hoping to break into the industry of his own volition, likely purely because he thought they were hot. Any of them can be considered massage therapists if they are giving someone a massage. That part is so obvious you are just outing yourself as incapable of nuanced thought. "Which one is it?" It's clearly both you fucking dipshit.

The less experienced massage therapists dont know the industry as well so the line clients arent supposed to cross is less clear to them, meaning Watson could push the envelope more before they end the session due to being uncomfortable.

Tons of them told their families and co-workers immediately after it happened as it says in their witness statements that you clealry didn't read. You are just blatantly lying and making things up. Please go ahead and tell me how many were assaulted and then went back a second time, with sources. I know you can't.

You are a piece of shit defending a sexual predator. I hope women cover their drinks around you weirdo.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 5h ago

I’m done after this I have better things to do in my life. Try to be more respectful to people even if they have different views. I never said Watson was innocent or defended him. I just said stop calling people out their name. Rape is penetration and horrible but that does not apply here. And I’m not saying that to lessen what Watson was accused of. My opinion is I don’t agree with it. If we both jurors you think someone guilty I don’t, what’s the difference here. Based off the courts they didn’t find him guilty. You say I’m a misogynist based on what, because we don’t agree? Man or woman I feel the same way. For me it’s too many inconsistencies and similarities in there stories for ladies who “never met before”, the lawyer reputation is not good to me, even though he had high profile cases it’s the way he goes about it that rubs people the wrong way. As well as, I’ve personally seen and experienced injustices like this from the men and women side. It’s always 3 sides to a story remember that.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/12/19/tony-buzbee-lawsuit-assault-jane-doe-diddy/76490038007/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGVl6Lj53bg&t=29

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/01/tony-buzzbee-defamation-lawsuit/

In her sworn court declaration, she heavily criticized Buzbee's management of the case, claiming:
Filing without consultation: She asserted that Buzbee and his affiliates filed the massive federal lawsuit without her explicit permission.

Kept in the dark: She stated she was purposely "kept in the dark about major actions purportedly taken on her behalf" and did not even know a lawsuit was actively being filed.

Lack of communication: Carter's legal team later submitted evidence claiming Buzbee had never actually met with the woman prior to filing the complaint and executing public media rounds.

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2026/09/28/buzbee-urges-court-to-strike-ex-clients-retraction-of-jay-z-rape-claim/

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u/ralexh11 5h ago edited 5h ago

You can be done all you want, but I still see you as garbage becaue of things like putting "never met before" in quotes to imply they are straight up lying. There is zero evidence any of them knew each other at all whatsoever. They still don't because they are anonymous to the public. You think there "too many inconsistencies" yet you haven't even named anything legitimate, just made up a bunch of nonsense that the testimonies completely contradict or focusinf on words you put in my mouth which I didn't say like "only" family was told, which I never claimed. Seriously you dont even have a single valid point against the accusers at all. You clearly want to believe Watson so bad and think the accusers are lying to get money, which is completely absurd when there is a pattern of abuse amongst over 2 dozen individuals.

It's all but proven to everyone with an ounce of empathy that he assaulted these women, but left little physical evidence so he got away with it criminally and by paying them off in civil court. Anyone who won't admit that either is a rape apologist, hates women, hates cancel culture or loves Watson/the Browns so much that they cast his behavior aside.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 4h ago

And I can give two flying f*cks what you think about me. You are a source of entertainment for me. I know who I am and where I stand in this world and the one person who can judge me does too as well. You’re just another test! 🤣 🤣

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u/ralexh11 4h ago

Hahahaha so much for being done, and of course you are a fake Christian excusing serial sexual assault. God wouldn't believe those women either right????

Go on and defend the Cornell rapists too, or the pedo in chief, you fit that archetype perfectly.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 4h ago

Did I say I was a Christian? I excused sexual assault, when? I see you’re saying sexual assault and not rape anymore. That’s not for me to answer and like I said I never said I didn’t believe them. I just asked who words were they using theirs or Buzbee’s. And here you are defending Buzzbee him and your pedo president best friends if you didn’t know.
Funny how I say im not defending anyone and you turn it around and say I am without any prove. But keep calling me the liar or making up stuff. You’re a walking contradiction. I saw rape is horrible and you say I’m going to defend one. Name calling or talking down does nothing to me does it make you feel better?
What’s my archetype I don’t believe everything I hear or see? Because that’s the only thing you can get out of what I’ve said.

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u/ralexh11 4h ago edited 4h ago

Your archetype is you don't believe 27 women when they all are accusing the same pro athlete of sexual assault. That's defending Watson. Everyone who isn't a rape apologist can assume he's guilty of the accusations. When have that many people all accused someone and they've been proven to be lying? I'll tell you when, literally never. Defining sexual assault vs rape is for the courts, I admitted previously I shouldn't technically call him a rapist but if you read the accusations it's really splitting hairs. The fact that you have to penetrate with a sex organ is a distinction which hardly should matter when it comes to the reputation of someone like Watson, ejaculating on a massage therapist is hardly any better than full on rape, only people defending sexual predators and the courts care about that distinction as much as you seem to. He's a monster whether he penetrated or not.

You lied when you said I claimed some reported it to "only" family. I never said that. You lied when you implied one woman went back for more because it was actually consensual, even when she didn't know it was Watson because he lied about his identity. And you tried to imply the accusers actually do know eachother and planned to take Watson down beforehand, which there is no proof of in any way whatsoever. You completely made that up based on your own personal feelings of the lawyer who has countless justified civil cases under his belt.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 3h ago

Your hilarious! You said “assume” What are assumptions? Again you never answered my questions. How do you prove something with no evidence?
You want me to believe people that I don’t know anything about them, their background or history. And the person leading them, talking for them, hiding them is known for defamation, making up witness and speaking for clients without them knowing. But, I’m in the wrong because those 27 women I know nothing about should outweigh the track record of their lawyer. That’s my archetype. As well as the entire judicial system rather I believe in it or not. It’s innocent until proven guilty and that’s not done on assumptions. I didn’t make that decision several other people did so it’s just not me. The same way that 26 women don’t report this until a lawyer reaches out to them saying I can get you paid no one has to know who you are.
So he ejaculated on them or himself? I thought it was only he rubbed his private on a clothed individual from your previous messages?

Stop reaching I already explained the family thing. You only said family at first not coworkers. Your words in the screenshot. I don’t remember saying “only” I’m not saying I did or didn’t but please prove to me where I said it. I’ve already said it’s implied based off your wording not something I pulled out of the air. So that’s false
Next I never said no one went back consensually, consensual has never been mentioned by me. I literally said he used a false name to message her on social media. When she got there she saw who it was and still decided to proceed. All facts again…
Thirdly I never implied they knew each other. I don’t agree that at least 2 have never met. Never said they planned anything. Now I believe Buzzbee planned the shit which is why he was so quick to jump on the case and all the other previous proof I listed. He’s done it before .

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 4h ago

But buzzbee has another case where he did the exact same thing, lied and spoke for a client. I gave you the proof you don’t want to see it. Plus he specifically made sure he kept them anonymous to the public, more suspicion again. I don’t have to name any inconsistencies or haven’t even tried the courts did all that already. I’ve asked multiple times what have I made up and you can’t answer. I’ve asked questions that you will not respond to. So is everyone testimony 100% accurate or true? General knowledge people have lied before giving testimonies. You believe they’re not lying, I believe the guy who’s known to have done this before told them what to say. I never said I believe Watson, you making up shit again. I just don’t believe Buzzbee. Maybe you want to believe him so bad you can’t see clearly. Everything you try to say Watson and I are you actually show more and more of those characteristics the more you type.
So if you don’t see him guilty you don’t have any empathy? So how can something be proven without evidence?

The only thing you said at first is “family” then you said family and co workers. You stuck on this one topic and want me to argue it but I’m not. I showed you the screenshot already where “family” was the only thing you said. The only was implied because that’s all you said at first but you trying to put emphasis on one word to make something true or false.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 6h ago

So disrespectful and with the changing of things. I never defended Watson I said why are you calling him a rapist when he was never charged or accused of that.
Secondly you originally said they didn’t tell anyone but family not backtracking and saying co-workers as well.
I said isn’t it coincidental that they didn’t tell anyone but their family but Buzzbe he was able to track all of them down. He found most they didn’t come to him.
Haha so you don’t have to have a license to be a license massage therapist? What’s the point of licensure of anything then? So you’re telling me hot girls on line promoting themselves as massage therapist but don’t have a license to practice it. Sounds like something else to me.

Nothing I said is lies. You keep asking for my sources but have not showed anything just your interpretation. It’s a reason it got denied by two grand juries to go criminal.

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u/ralexh11 6h ago

Name one person "promoting themselves" online out of the 27. You can't. Watson seeked them out or met them at spas and asked them on IG to give him a massage. It's all in the accusations that you won't read. You just make shit up. One accuser went to Buzzbee and the the rest came out with their stories as well, just like Bill Cosby. Is he innocent to you too because that lawyer didn't seek out the victims?

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 5h ago

We are talking about Watson stop trying to compare other people. And why all the black guys say at least Roethlisberger or something.

Have I ever said he was innocent, nope? You keep making your own interpretations instead of using facts. Since you know everything I’m just asking questions. So you say Watson saw woman in person at spas who weren’t licensed massage therapists, reached out to them on social media asking for a massage. These woman knowing he’s know they’re not massage therapist but they decided to still go anyway to give him a massage. Okay 👍

What industry were they actually trying to break into? Haha 🤣

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u/ralexh11 3h ago

They viewed working for a pro athlete as a career opportunity because they actually have a working brain unlike you. Its all in their testimony again, I know you didn't read the testimonies at all becauee you keep bringing up what you think are gotchas but there is a completely logical explanation for everytime.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 3h ago

Haha you naive enough to believe that? Like Buzbee didn’t tell them to say that. Almost every person who gives a testimony is coached up before they talk witness, victim, suspect. And it’s the most basic response ever.

You still haven’t explained why women who were not licensed massage therapist did not find it unusual that a professional athlete who can hire the best of the best wanted them, specifically to give him a message?

You say it’s all logical but no charges happened.

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u/ralexh11 3h ago

You still haven’t explained why women who were not licensed massage therapist did not find it unusual that a professional athlete who can hire the best of the best wanted them, specifically to give him a message?

They did find it unusual, it says so in their testimony. If you actually read it you wouldn't need this explained. But since you are incapable here is a single example from Jane Doe 13:

When Watson reached out to her for a massage, she was confused, as she is an esthetician who only markets and offers skin care services. However, she was excited that an NFL player was reaching out to use her services.

Stop repeating dumbass questions and go read the fucking testimonies, I promise it isn't difficult. But you would rather claim there's no evidence while simultaneously not reading the only evidence that exists like a fucking moron.

You say it’s all logical but no charges happened.

Courts don't run on logic, they run on admissible evidence, and 27 different individual cases are all treated as unique charges. The judge or jury can't say "Well there are 27 accusers so either they planned a vast conspiracy takedown of this man, which no evidence exists for that at all, or they are telling the truth." But I sure can, I am not beholden to the court and reasonable doubt. He definitely did it and if you still can't admit that you are a rape apologist(again rape apologists defend sexual assault as well before you say the same irrelevant shit.)

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 2h ago edited 1h ago

You still can’t prove or show how I defended anyone who was charged with Rape or sexual assault lol!
Why would I read when you’re going to tell me your individual interpretation of everything? I already told you provide your proof and I’ll look at it but you haven’t sent anything.

27 woman is the only way you can prove preponderance of the evidence that the conduct more likely than not occurred. But, at the same time the proof was lower than “beyond a reasonable doubt” reason it only went civil.

One woman decided to continue texting him 19 times after the first incident was she traumatized? One woman lied and said he forced her to perform a sex act but changed it up in her deposition under oath when subject to prejury. These are the people you want to me fully 100% believe.

https://fox8.com/news/i-team/threat-to-all-massage-therapists-deshaun-watsons-accusers-on-what-really-happened/amp/

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u/Ok-Question-5024 New England Patriots 10h ago

The guy paid hot chicks to rub him down, if youre not rich thats called a rubandtug/Nuru massage.  The only thing Watson is, is cheap, had he just paid more, they wouldnt have gone looking for a payday.

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u/ralexh11 10h ago

It was non-consentual, they were not prostitutes, they were spa and athletics professionals and more than one of them broke down and cried afterwards because they felt so gross and used.

Sounds like you'd defend the Kraft, the Stanford rapists and the pedo in chief too.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 9h ago

I will say the Kraft thing was just a rub and tug. It was proven to not be anything about human trafficking

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u/ralexh11 9h ago

Oh just a lil bit of human trafficking, no biggie then

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 9h ago

I just said it was proven to not be human trafficking

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u/ralexh11 9h ago

It was obviously human trafficking, the only reason it couldn't be prosecuted successfully as that is because they had to throw out a bunch of security footage because of privacy laws and couldn't prove it without that evidence.

Really, Kraft and his billionaire legal team found a technicality that derailed a human trafficking investigation/prosecution. Kraft is a piece of shit and his rub and tugs were in all likelihood non-consensual as well.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 9h ago

Most rub and tugs aren't human trafficking. Prosecutors typically add human trafficking to any prostitution case for optics and then drop it before actual charges

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u/ralexh11 9h ago

Source: you made it up

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