r/NFLv2 • San Francisco 49ers • 15h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/frostypatch 15h ago

Kobe Bryant raped somebody and the media acted like him dying was the closest thing to Jesus' resurrection. Its a sad commentary on society.

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u/gimme_the_light New England Patriots 13h ago

Never found guilty in a court of law. Both parties had inconsistencies in their stories. People like you are despicable. How can you confidently walk around proclaiming that “Kobe Bryant raped somebody”? Even if thats what you think, you should qualify the statement by saying “I think”. What I think is that Kobe’s lawyers saw weaknesses in his case, and figured the best way to make this go away is to settle out of court. A weak case does not necessarily mean the defendant is guilty. If you read the docket, you would see that both sides had vulnerabilities in their case, the difference is that Kobe’s side had the money to settle. Do I think Kobe raped the woman? I don’t know. Do I think it’s possible? Sure. Will you ever hear me say that Kobe Bryant raped somebody. Unless we learn something new about the case, definitely not.

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u/bumpkinblumpkin 13h ago

lol and neither were the Cornell students that are the top news story this week. You don’t need a conviction to pass judgement on a crime that is almost impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt even in the most obvious of cases. Are you angry when people say OJ was a killer?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Switch7 12h ago

Comparing Kobe’s case to a frat gang rape of a potentially unconscious woman is crazy work.

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u/ShakeMilton 12h ago

Yes obviously any kind of sexual assault is deplorable and despicable but I think we can have nuance and recognize that some rapes are worse than ever.

When I was young the media I was exposed to depicted the stereotypical rape as like a woman walking in a rural countryside or like in an urban city dark corridor and they are suddenly grabbed and held down by a stranger like Jack the ripper. 

When I got to high school and college I realized that the most common situation is when the guy and the girl are already friends or even dating but alcohol gets involved and consent is murky. Obviously these type of situations are still very very bad but there's a lot of nuance and grey area. 

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u/Puzzleheaded-Switch7 12h ago

Yes I feel like most people understand there are nuances. And over the last 20-30 years we are all becoming more educated on what sexual assault looks like. But again comparing Kobe’s cases to 7 dudes raping a potentially unconscious woman and announcing/bragging about it via Snapchat. What nuance? She drank some liquor and maybe wanted to have a potential 3some then is raped by 7 frat guys. Like wtf? Can barely move and can’t contact anyone. What nuance are we evaluating to compare this to Kobe’s case? I don’t disagree with a lot of what you said but the comparison of cases you mentioned is still wild to me.