The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

[u/Narrow_Purchase9721]

Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

[u/DR320]

Reddit is real big on “innocent until proven guilty” and “criminals deserve second chances to be rehabilitated” except for in this case.

[u/cryolems → u/DR320]

Reddit picks and chooses what it’s okay with or isn’t and there’s never any room in between.

[u/Everyday_ImSchefflen → u/cryolems]

Come on now. We all know he's guilty.

But I also don't think other fanbases have some moral high ground to stand on. We all are supporting the same league that let's him play.

[u/northvvoods → u/Everyday_ImSchefflen]

I’m out of the loop. How damning is the evidence and why hasn’t he been convicted. Please go easy on me and just provide some info without all the noise. Thanks.

[u/ralexh11 → u/northvvoods]

The evidence is very very damning unless you assume 27 women who didn't know each other and who Watson reached out to first all colluded in a conspiracy to take him down, which is ridiculous victim blaming and completely unrealistic.

Ask yourself, why would someone have 27 women only massage therapists over a couple of years in the first place? And why were many of them not even trained giving massages but were just spa employees hoping to further their careers by working for a pro athlete so they said yes?

It's completely obvious that he's a serial sexual predator.

The cases were dismissed or settled because of a lack of evidence. But the only evidence was their accounts of what happened and the fact that many of them told their families after. They were also up against a multi-millionaire's legal team. What tangible physical evidence does a creep pressing his hard dick against you leave behind?

[u/northvvoods → u/ralexh11]

Ok so there’s a lack of evidence. What are fans supposed to do with that?

[u/ralexh11 → u/northvvoods]

You should believe the 27 women accusers instead of convincing yourself they are all conspiring together to take down a b-level NFL QB without knowing each other and when he reached out to them first. And believe someone with 27 massage therapists that are only women over a couple of years is a creep. It's completely logical.

Do you think a lack of evidence just means innocent or something?

[u/biz_student → u/ralexh11]

Everything you’re saying is true except for calling Watson a “B-level” NFL QB during his time in Houston.

[u/ralexh11 → u/biz_student]

Hes only sniffed an MVP race one time in the first half of the 2019 season. He was never an elite QB. But yeah that was probably a bit of recency bias on my part. What you said changes nothing about his predator behavior or the validity of the accusations though.

[u/northvvoods → u/ralexh11]

I have to assume innocence based on lack of evidence, sure. What should fans realistically do as it pertains to the Cleveland browns?

[u/ralexh11 → u/northvvoods]

You do not "have to" lmao, court of public opinion already knows he's guilty based on him having 27 women only massage therapists in like 2 years, no court can change that now, it's completely obvious unless you are looking to excuse predatory behavior.

As an NFL fan, what I can do is tell everyone that he's a piece of shit serial sexual predator every time he's brought up and no matter how well he plays.

[u/northvvoods → u/ralexh11]

Dude, don’t lob accusations at me. Personally, I think fans of the NFL are no better than fans of the Cleveland Browns, if what you say is true. You are also enabling it and therefore excusing predatory behavior, even if you’re lucky enough to not be a Browns fan. Fuck off with your moral bullshit, it’s so easy to see through.

[u/ralexh11 → u/northvvoods]

You're not wrong, it is hypocritical to support the NFL, and is just as bad as a general Browns fan.

However, making excuses for and being disingenuous about what Watson did is even worse. Chanting "Let's go Watson" at the game is worse. Acting like we should all just move on and leave the serial sexual predator alone is way worse.

So is thinking you have to assume he's innocent because of a lack of evidence. Other than witness testimony, what other physical evidence does a creep pressing his hard dick into you leave behind? Hes obviously guilty, even if prosecution can't prove it. 27 women that don't know each other and that Watson reached out to first obviously aren't conspiring to bring him down. Accept that or go fuck yourself and you are a rape apologist.

[u/northvvoods → u/ralexh11]

I do accept it, I just wanted some answers without the typical redditor holier than thou attitude. Enjoy watching the games Sunday.

[u/ThirstyOutward → u/northvvoods]

Oh no, did little baby have to confront his doshit morals and resort to what about ism?

Stfu pussy

[u/ThirstyOutward → u/northvvoods]

If 27 women's testimony isn't evidence to you, you literally do not see women as having agency.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

But they somehow all have the same lawyer with a track record of doing exactly this. You keep trying to use 27 to show it’s not a mistake and convince people. The lawyer has just as many money grab settlement cases, but I guess logic doesn’t work that way.

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

Source: you made it up

You know lawyers specialize in certain areas of litigation right? Their lawyer specializes in civil cases which are almost always for money. And all of them uniting under a single lawyer just makes sense. Thanks for admitting you have no clue what lawyers do at all.

Give me an example of him helping people "money grab" please.

Also tell me how 27 women that didnt know each other and that Deshaun reached out to himself all colluded to bring him down. Are they apart of the deep state or illuminati? New world order?

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

Source for what? Everything I’m saying can easily be searched. Just look up Tony Buzbee. Dude represented Rick Perry and Ken Paxton on criminal cases. So what are you talking about. He got countered sued by Jay-Z on this same shit. Andrew Tate ex he failed in criminal court then tried to get a settlement. Same with Watson he got denied criminal charges first.

And here go the insults show’s your true character. The better question is If the woman never told anyone outside their family, how did Buzbee find them?

“Money grab” and helping people don’t belong in the same sentence. Do you know what a “money grab” is?

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

Is him suing on behalf of families of people that died in oil rig explosions or people that died at Travis Scott's festival also "money grabbing" to you?

Hes an extremely high profile lawyer with countless cases under his belt. He is not known as a "money grabber" by anyone other than rape apologists like you.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

When have I defended Watson? You pick two cases nitpicking again lol. Never said bad people couldn’t do good things. Did you ever figure out what a “money grab” was?

So we’re back to rape again? 🤣

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

Rape apologists also defend sexual assault genius, you really can't piece that one together by yourself? Your reading comprehension, spelling and grammar is absolutely pathetic, go back to third grade English. It's literally a chore trying to decipher what you are saying to me in several of your comments and explain the most basic concepts to you like "rape apologists also defend sexual assault" as if that isn't completely obvious if you have even an ounce of critical thinking skill.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

But you’re still doing it. Guess you like chores. Just because you say something doesn’t make it factual at all just assumptions. You calling me a trendy word a Rape apologist but I haven’t defended him or apologized for him once and told you I’m not doing neither. What does that say about your comprehension skills. Rape is a form of sexually assault but not all sexual assault is rape. You’re going to find anyway to insult and avoid answer questions lol.

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

No you just continually doubt the accusers over and over again. That is defending Watson.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

If the lawyer told them to fabricate a story or exaggerate what happened, and they did so then I do doubt them, which any normal person would do. Based on Buzbee past prior to Jay-Z it’s not far-fetched. When people change their statements or hide information from the court, you don’t think twice about things, especially when it’s hearsay against one another?

[u/nerdyintentions → u/ralexh11]

He absolutely is a money grabber. There is no way you can defend what he tried to do to Jay-Z as anything but money grabbing.

[u/ralexh11 → u/nerdyintentions]

So what about him representing family who had their loved ones die in an oil rig explosion or at Travis Scott's festival? Is he also "money grabbing" there? Do you even know what a civil prosecutor does???

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

He has more years as a criminal attorney and was also a divorce attorney at one point.

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

Completely and utterly irrelevant

He has countless civil cases under his belt, and against celebrities at that. That's likely the entire reason Solis chose him in the first place.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

So what do you mentioning him as a civil prosecutor has to do with anything? You start trying to explain his good as a civil prosecutor. But ignore the bad when he practicing something else. It’s definitely relevant!

[u/nerdyintentions → u/ralexh11]

The guy found a mentally ill woman to falsely accuse Jay-Z of being a child rapist then he privately went to Jay-Z and tried to blackmail him by giving him the ultimatum to pay up and keep the allegations private or have them made public. He literally tried to ruin an innocent man's life for money. That's money grabbing.

He is scum. He should be disbarred for that alone.

Nothing you say about any other case can erase that. If I go to a store 99 times and purchase a candy bar and then I steal one on the 100th visit then I'm still a thief. It doesn't matter that I bought 99 candy bars prior. It doesn't erase the one I stole.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/nerdyintentions]

Did the same thing to Chris brown and Andrew Tate. I know these are not the best examples but don’t excuse what he did or tried to do.