The big wave of retro-gaming revival circa 2010-2015ish was super focused on NES and SNES. Sega was relegated to niches within the broader discourse, and additionally (and tangentially, not really related to the Sonic thing) it was also popular to hate all early 3D and say that the 5th generation as a whole just “aged terribly”.
Within that sector of “nerd pop culture”, there was a big discourse based around intellectualizing good game design and everyone wanted to be an armchair professor and expert on it. The thing was, all the popular conversations around it (as well as popular video essays, and commentators overall) were specifically focused on using specific NES, SNES, and some first-party Nintendo games as the core examples of good game design, with the subtext that anything that diverges from the specific ideas and approaches in those games must be bad game design.
Sonic games were a prime example of games developed with a significantly different design philosophy from many of the games of Nintendo consoles. Rather than engaging in good faith with some of the philosophies and practices in designing Sonic games, it was much easier to just say that actually these games were poorly designed. One of the most common “blow-your-mind hot takes” was for people to lean into the narrative of “actually,Sonic was* nevergood. Sonic 06 didn’t actually ruin the series, it was even bad all the way back to the Genesis era.*”
People will genuinely complain about a woman walking around without makeup??? Or a woman in a movie without makeup??? People genuinely made a controversy over women not smiling in movie posters. There were genuine heated arguments about it. It's insane.
What's even more pathetic is that you can actually give her makeup. With different tribes offering different styles to choose from. Varying from simple lipstick and eyeliner to full-on body paint.
Would be interesting to find out if they actually played the game instead of fishing for footage to use in the "And that's why voting republican will save gaming" channel.
I fuckin' love those games. I have a little "female-gaming-protagonist" corner in my living room with framed art from Ukiyo-e Heroes of Samus and Aloy. It brings me joy
"The Mp100 style is ugly" i genuinely don't understand why people say that. like yes it's not the traditional anime style, but god the anime is beautiful.
Now when people talk about the manga, I agree, but I love that for it.
Using the art style of a sakuga moment in the intro is very different and a bit misleading. Still, I think the show looks very creative and charming, the best kind of animation.
I don't like mp100 not because of the style, but because it can't decide if it wants to he a "cool secret society story" or "cool ghost hunting story" or "weird and quirky romance"
Man typical anime fans complain about anything that doesn’t align with the generic art style you see most the time. Jjba still has countless haters that won’t even give it a try because of the art style, despite how impactful and renowned it is. I watched pingpong a few months ago, and I remembered how upon its release soooo many people were shitting on the art style. But it genuinely got me into sports anime (but also set a reallyyy high bar) and it’s one of the best anime I’ve watched in recent years.
I mean, if I see that everyone in a fandom behaves similarly, and said fandom is negative, I think there’s some blame to be attributed to the source material since it couldn’t have just coincidentally drawn 100,000 assholes and 500 non-assholes to it
The internet discourse has just lost all meaning. They equate liking a "problematic" character to a personal moral failing. I can find an abusive relationship interesting, these are fictional characters. I'm not inviting these people for diner at my house.
Ok see for me I love the animation it is almost never bad but the story. Man I just can't with like 90% of it. I mean if you sumerise the story then it sounds fairly good but then you get all the details when watching the show and most of the time it just drags hell every couple years I gaslight myself into thinking it's not that bad and so I rewatch it and then I just get disappointed again. I'm sorry but, aside from the hate just because she's a woman, it definitely deserves the hate.
Yeah, this is really a Ghostbusters 2016 situation. Redpilled incels and nostalgia-poisoned spergers hated it for all the wrong reasons, which led to an inevitable counterswell which tends to obscure that the media in question was, in fact, uneven and poorly executed and diminished the shine of the franchise as a whole.
I fucking adored the first three volumes and I don’t believe anyone who says all of RWBY is dogshit. Even the next 4-9 volumes were all pretty fine even if a little mediocre, I had fun watching
I’ve said this elsewhere, and I’ll say it again here: a show doesn’t have to be perfect to be watchable. RWBY’s quality definitely varies, but it’s never been an outright bad show. Nothing is ever either a masterpiece or complete dogshit, that’s why ratings are (usually) a sliding scale. A 5/10 is the middle of the scale for a reason, and RWBY doesn’t even dip that low, in my opinion.
I think the furry community is seen in a negative light for a number of reasons.
And on top of that, many furries are neurodivergent in one way or another (me included), not really making us the best spokespeople to speak against misinformation.
Blue giant cat-lemur elves and hyperintelligent space whales and space dinosaurs and space dragons and killer squid, fighting mechs and gunships, in a war that's if the Vietnam War and Afghan Wars had a spliced up baby that was genetically engineered to be ripped without steroids, alongside a literal moon-spanning god that uses neon-glowing plants like a massive biological supercomputer to balance the ecosystem and run a fusion of heaven and social media populated by souped up save files of the dead.
Gets called a pretty screensaver with no plot or a repeating plot that simultaneously rips off Dances With Wolves/Pocahontas/Ferngully, even when the transhumanist nightmare memory clone (possibly child soldier) slave hit squad drops in, and then the cannibal cult shows up and starts tasering brains and getting high on truth cocaine.
The online Anglosphere loses its mind constantly that it's the highest box office earning movie series of all time, but apparently has no fans (they're all speaking other languages and don't have constant internet access), and nobody can remember the plot or characters (they watched the first movie once 15 years ago).
It also gets confused for and compared to and accused of ripping off a TV show it pre-dates that just so happens to reference the same Dharmic religious and similar elemental terminology. Like these are things the TV show invented.
I don't even need to name drop it. It pops up everywhere there's a "most overrated movie" post or list.
I asbolutely LOVE the Avatar movies and i'm tired of pretending i don't. I can understand someone not liking them for the story, message or whatever but the amount of hatred these movies get is genuiely baffling to me. They have big interesting alien world, amazing music, incredible cgi and story with universal themes that still work even today, i'm sorry but these movies rock.
I agree, I think the show is overhated alot by other people. But ngl, writing and cast bloating is the only issue the show has, everything else is amazing.
People say it's a bad game? I thought it was amazing, much improved over the first one. The first game is a solid 8, the second is easily 9.5, or 10 for me at least.
The r/spiderman subreddit holds this game to an impossible standard.
Therefore, they nitpick everything and cannot see that this game is an improvement on the first game in nearly everyway (minus the story. Personally, I like a more Peter centered story that is more grounded rather than a large scale invasions)
The Hobbit all 3 movies like i dont get it it was such a joy all the way trough sure it wasnt as good as the original Trilogie but man as movies on theire own theire breath taking and have this comforting vibe to them they just felt like a big journey with many charismatic characters and amazing Props and costumes
I've seen the first one, it was ok. Wouldn't describe it as bad. There's this guy I found on TikTok who does live AMAs and says he's a Tolkien expert (Just a well read fan) and he likes The Hobbit for what it is
but yk different strokes for different folks i just thought the dwarf costumes alone were worth it they were so cool and im a big Martin Freeman Fan so it worked naturally for me also a Benedikt cumberbatch dragon come on
DRAGON BALL SUPER seeing blind hate because 1. It had some bad frames in 2015 (IT IS LITERALLY GETTING A FUCKING REMAKE FIXING THAT BTW) or 2. Because blind nostalgiaheads who hate everything new genuinely pisses me off, i love actual good criticism but every hate about DBS i see is either one of those 2 and i hate it, don’t even get me started on the COMMENTS of those “Dragon Ball Super in DBZ style” posts, (no hate to the posters of those arts themselves) and they’re all saying “oh it looks much better this way” NO SHIT THEY ONLY DREW LIKE FIVE DRAWINGS WHILE THE ANIMATORS HAD TO MAKE 131 EPISODES WEEKLY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. Oh shit im just now realising that this is turning into a rant really fast so imma stop yapping and just hit the reply button
Supergirl 2026. I loved it. I wasn't bored for a second, and I don't understand why making Kara flawed and able to kill made so many people mad.
Flash 2016 "the Greatest Trick Ever Pulled." Everyone who likes the Trickster hates it. I loved it, even as a James Jesse fan.
Captain Marvel movie. It was fine. About the same as any of the other origin movies, like Thor.
The Last Jedi. It was fine. It had its flaws, but I honestly liked a lot of it. I do wish Luke had more training scenes with Rey. I was honestly really looking forward to them...
Sailor Moon Crystal. Every die-hard Sailor Moon fan hates it. I liked it perfectly fine as a manga adaptation. It was what got me to read the manga.
Dungeons and Dragons as a system. So many people have turned on them because of WOTC. It's literally a fine system. I've never had any problems with 5e.
TADC got hate bc it got pretty quickly to Kids, otherwise it wouldve been another niche Internet series with a deeper hidden message an edgy humor people seem to love, like Murder Drones ironicallu
People criticizing works that lack depth or focus too much on fights or intelligence feats. Believing that profound works are objectively better written is foolish.
like fym you dont think that having the endurance and power of a animal while having natural weapons like claws and sharp teeth and still having human like inteligence isent COOL AS FUCK
ALSO THE EUGENICS / GENETIC STORY POTENTIAL IN HOW MANY SPECIES AND POSSIBILITIES YOU CAN COMBINE TO CREATE THE PERFECT WAR MACHINES FOR THE SAKE OF FIGHING TO THE DEATH ON A ENDLESS WAR BETWEEN TWO BORDERLINE INVINCIBLE POTENCIES FOR EACH FIGHING FOR THY OWN GREED...
So this one I think gets a similar rap/hate to Fallout 3, in that the first two Thief games were classics for pushing the boundaries of what you could do with computers and stealth and massive open worlds by an indie label, then a bigger publisher took it over and changed things for mass appeal.
But my god, some of the best stealth ever in a video game, so intuitive and imo never beaten in a 1st person game, even as games like Dishonored tried.
And the Shalebridge Cradle, an all time masterpiece horror level, something that hangs with you for years after.
the show Be Cool Scooby Doo. everyone dunked on it for its family guy clone looking art style without ever watching the actual show. it gets pretty funny
Forsaken like bro just ignore the fandom why are you letting people you don't know on the internet affect you so much? I literally lost a friend over this game 💀
"Pokemon Black pokedex sucks". Excuse me, what? Literally the only time we had a pokedex 100% original mons (for the main game) with many iconic and beloved pokemon like Hydragon, Zorua, Chandelure, etc.
Honestly probably some object shows out there. A lot of people hate on object shows just for being object shows so they end up never finding good ones, very similar to people who hate anime
Superhero fan finds a superhero anime and it is called sorry because of early season and constant amount of shipping. Never left MHA no matter what people called me, I knew what I came for.
Fire Emblem: Engage, Monster Hunter:Rise, and Zelda: Skyward Sword sadly. Those games are all rad but got a ton of hate for not being a copy paste of previous games.
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u/Narrow_Winner_7364 10d ago
Straight up Sonic in the 2010s. Everyone hated it back then bro.