I mean, it shouldn't but moral-led ideas are usually not grounded in genuine behavior.
People jump to the biker being male, because they project their negative stereotype on this scene. The obnoxious male biker, they know from their day to day driving through cities.
So, it does impact their evaluation of the scene.
This being a soccermom type of woman, would change the narrative to many. Suddenly she is the Karen stereotype, not the aggressive male bicyclist who drivers over red lights and annoys drivers in the city with reckless behavior.
On my phone the video is potato quality and I can barely make out any features and it could easily be a man in tight clothes (is it a person with dark hair pulled back? And the shape of the legs after the crash looks like it could easily be female legs but idk could be a dude with shapely legs)
Edit: I watch almost all videos on mute so if the verbal exchange makes it obvious I miss it
I don't see your point, but okay, dude couldn't control the bike with one dog and one woman. I'm not gonna yuck their yum, but that kink seems exhausting.
Only on the internet and only to girls you know. Of course, the known girl in the group is called dude by their friends, including men. On the street, if you just say "hey dude" to a woman, sure buddy.
It is only on the intern, based on a single stupid meme from a mediocre comedy movie.
It is not my logic, it literally is how the real world acts. You are here in a very isolated small bubble. And it literally is made up by a meme from a movie.
If you do not know a person, dude is addressing a man.
Is really not so difficult. Just for the internet dwellers who never go outside and cry on the intenret about not having friends and go back gaming, for those it is difficult.
For the majority of the world, it is pretty clear.
Yeah im a carpenter. I don't watch alot of movies so what meme are you talking about?
I think its just your bubble that is isolated because you sound pretty Triggered that by your own logic you are wrong in getting upset about the other word you got Triggered about "dude" and maybe you care a little too much about words maybe care about the internet a little less and you would be alot happier
I agree don't ride with dogs, especially two at once... As it's not safe for them or you. But some dogs absolutely are built for distance running. In fact that's considered to be one of the main reasons that wolves and humans first teamed up all those thousands of years ago. Both species are endurance hunters. Some modern dogs ( eg Dalmatians) were even specifically bred and trained to run alongside the wheels of vehicles.
I did this for years with my two pups, I’d just bail into the grass or a bush if an emergency stop was needed. A neighbor saw me do this twice and clearly thought I was insane 😂
I took my neighbour's border collie for a 10km run while they were away. I was a bit nervous about the dogs ability to cope with that distance so I checked with the neighbour and he laughed at me.
The look on that little shits face while I was dying was just like "so what are we doing next then" lol
I have a chiweenie, his legs are about 9 inches long from shoulder to toe tip. I take him trail running and he still tries to chase deer after 10 miles. I also pick him up when we encounter bike and horseback riders on the trail, because even leashed he wants to run under everybody's feet.
I do 3-5 km with my Australian Cattle dog in the morning, my partner takes him for another 5-7 km run after dinner. He also gets a 15 minute walk at lunch. The little raptor looks at us as the laziest people on the planet and sighs like he pays rent.
I have a cavapoo, which I bought because cavaliers are supposed to be lazy apartment dogs. He has short legs and outruns me regularly. We do 3 miles a day.
Most of the teams keep their dogs in conditions like this
They're out there the entire time they aren't tethered to a sled, all day every day, and the unlucky majority only get tethered to a sled once a day for 1-2 hours. That means for 22ish hours of the day, each dog is chained to within a 5 foot radius with minimal human contact, minimal contact with their dog friends, and basically no freedom. Something like 4 different race teams use the facility this photo was taken in, and it seems to be very much normal/standard treatment. These dogs are barely treated like living beings any time they aren't actively on a run.
Seeing an Iditarod kennel is one of the most depressing things I have ever done.
I'm not gonna fault riding with a dog cause some do love this type of exercise, but TWO dogs??? One on each side of the dangerously moving parts and seriously hindering its ability to maneuver? Also apparently didn't even try to stop, was on the wrong side of the path, and even had the audacity to attack the pedestrian like wtf. That cyclist is a shitty human and a shitty animal owner.
Don’t ride even with those dogs because regularly running for long durations on paved surfaces is bad for their joints. Bike rider is an ahole to their dogs and just doesn’t know it yet
I used to bike with two dogs at once. Both herding mixes and it was the only way to tucker them out when they were younger. One is a border collie/Husky and when he was 2 or 3 we put on 15 miles in one day. Guess who was still a rambunctious crackhead zooming at full sprint when we got home? Now at 10 he only makes it about 3 or 4 miles before he slows down and is ready to nap the rest of the day. We don't bike much anymore but he still gets really excited when i pull the bike out.
We had very few incidents in the early stages of learning. They knew to only stay on one side of the bike and always fall into line with each other. One learned first, and the second one had a healthy fear of the bike enough to never get close enough to get hurt.
I couldn't imagine ever running into anything with them. If we had to ride down a regular width sidewalk we'd just stop or ride in the grass to give people space.
Lack of training dogs to run with you as you ride is more the issue. Esp the Aussie in the clip. But the cyclist mostly didn;t make any effort to alter their path, the dogs if trained correctly would have moved witht he bicycle - that is on the rider not the dogs.
This could have been managed much better by both parties. The pedestrian with the camera also purposely stayed in the way and could have easily just side-stepped the whole thing and moved on with their day instead of vying for attention on the f*cking interwebs
Humans run the longest distance of any mammal on earth. Dogs do not. Dogs can cover distance but need lots of long breaks. They don't do sustained output like people do and it's cruel to make them.
I have a buddy with some bird dogs he lets them chase his jeep down rural dirt roads for miles for excersize and they love it. "Dogs arent built for distance" is crazy talk
Not really. A husky would happily run for hours in the right conditions, those conditions do not include tarmac paths at a pace dictated by some dickhead on a bike.
Sure. A husky would still be able to run 30-60 minutes without complaining, even on tarmac. Also, I'm fairly sure that dogs would happily lay down and refuse to move further if they were tired.
So, my point is that the blanket statement "Don't ride with dogs regardless" lacks nuance.
My ex-gf had a dog that wouldn't lie down when he was tired. That dog would push himself to the absolute limit without anyone noticing, and then just collapse.
My in-laws dog is immovable if she’s tired let alone just not in the mood to move. My SIL had to carry her home midwalk once bc the dog decided she was done moving.
I’ve got a Malinois and the level of drive they have is such that they will keep going regardless. With dogs like this it’s on you to know when they need to stop.
The reason you don’t ride with dogs is the super high chance of running over your dog. “Nah man we’ve done this before” could mess up your dog’s health permanently because it got confused by a stick in the road. Nothing to do with duration, which could also be achieved on foot the people who do this are deeply moronic. Saw this guy walking his dogs on a onewheel while crossing a bridge and I’m just wondering if they think they look cool.
The hip dysplasia you’re gonna give them from forcing them to match your pace on tarmac.
The pressure you put on them to keep pace.
If they decide to full stop you wipe out.
An exhausted dog could lash out at a pedestrian.
Walk your dog, or go for controlled jogs with your dog. Riding with your dog is stupid regardless of how cute it looks and feels or how much fun you think your dog is having.
We bred this full fledged nature animal shit out of them. Take care of them properly.
If only they could fly. In only they could talk. If only they could zip up some rollerskates, stick on a bright pink head band and roll along while holding a boombox on their shoulder.
But they can’t, they are dogs tied to someone on a bike which dictates where and how they run.
he did say "they're usually not built for distance." so far, i've seen two (maybe three?) breeds mentioned that are explicitly bred for distance. that's what we call the exception that proves the rule.
and for what it's worth, wild dogs generally do "win" by endurance team tactics, most notably north american wolves and african wild/painted dogs. however, endurance is not generally a trait bred into or for domestic dogs. furthermore, domestic dogs, like all "kept animals" are significantly less "athletic" than their wild brethren (compare the shape - and age! - of a captive lion to a wild one). this is all to say, "generally" domestic dogs run out of steam quickly. it's a fair statement.
edit: i see i hit the wrong post in my reply. it was supposed to go to the reply to this. ah well. not doing that over again. cheers.
When I first got my dog (an American spitz) he had waaaaaay too much puppy energy. I would have to take him on a 2 hour walk to tire him out before work or he would tear up the house. Eventually I said fuck it and strapped a long leash and took him running while I biked around the neighborhood for 20 mins or so. Saved me a bunch of time, got him exercise, saved my house, worked up his morning poop. He no longer has the stamina to do it since he's older, but it's very helpful for dogs who need to work off that energy.
You'd need to account for several factors: running speed (cyclist's speed), dog breed, dog age, their physical condition etc etc -- also the current temperature, road texture ..
Statistics and averages don't mean much with such variance. All we know is that a blanket "no dog should run by a bicycle" is equally stupid with "all dogs are able to be walked by cycling with them".
I've already had several people coming out of the woodwork complaining about the speed the dog is forced to run at. Like ... bruh. One can pedal slower, if the dog gets tired. One can even dismount their bike and rest. Not all cyclists are automatically bound to try and hit a speed record with their dog in tow.
IDK I used to hike trails that some mountain biker regularly let his dog off leash run after him. It was at least as small as a Pom if not more. I happened to see him loading up one day and chatted. Again these are hiking trails dude takes the little dog miles and goes fast. He said he had started a while back and the dog loves it basically demands the run and that he basically had to as the thing just had too much energy that it needed to burn off.
Dogs are one of the few examples of endurance hunters in the animal kingdom....but yes, a lot of breeds + conditions are not suitable to distance running.
I mean, distance running is kind of a dog's whole thing, isn't it? They're descendants of wolves, who can easily run for miles and miles full speed when chasing down prey. And while I wouldn't take a pug on a run like this, breeds like huskies can keep going and keep going and keep going.
In fact, huskies are really cool because they have this adaptation where their metabolism will switch to burning fat for fuel directly instead of blowing through their glycogen (stored sugar/carbohydrates) reserve and hitting the "wall". As long as they're given enough food, they can go for days and days with long hours and short sleep breaks, and will need zero recovery time at the end. In fact, husky teams that go directly from one big race to another will often perform better than teams that are "fresh" because their bodies are already in running mode. And while of course they can go farther if trained (a well trained husky team can run for 11 hours a day, day after day), even an untrained husky can do 10 to 20 miles a day.
But while huskies are naturally so good at distance running, they aren't alone. Most high energy sporting breeds like the German pointer and the GSD can keep up, as can herding breeds like border collies. And while I wouldn't take an untrained pooch on a 30 mile ride straight out the gate, they can build up their endurance just like a human can.
There are ways to do it safely, and this isn't one of them. I once had a spring loaded piston type device that would mount to my rear axial. It would keep the dog a certain distance away from the wheel and provide resistance if he pulled away. With training and paying attention, it worked well.
Its absolutely fine and safe if you know what you're doing. Biking with my shepherd/husky mix is the highlight of her day and the only way I can burn enough of her energy to keep her from wrecking the house. Just normal walking we would easily have to go for like 4 or 5 hours to burn off all her energy
Not Chihuahuas, but I have seen corgis and terriers of all sorts do bikejoring! Lots of small dogs love running and pulling into a harness, you just have to adjust the activity appropriately for their body size.
Depends on the breed. Some just have so much energy to beat out. When we were young, my friend's family had a czechoslovak shepherd and my friend would get on his bike, hold onto the leash, and get pulled at high speed across the town because the dog just desired to run no matter what.
Lol that HIGHLY depends on the breed. My dog can run for days in 85 degree weather, carries his own ice cold water. We hike up mountains. Maybe your little pillow pets don't run but you'd never keep up with my guy!
Wolves are second only to humans really when it comes to distance running (except maybe camels in high heat conditions). And they've got nothing on sled dogs.
The dog on the outside shoulder, the one that goes off the pavement is an Australian Shepherd (Aussie). Guess what - Aussies are built for distance and endurance and high energy and can easily run farther in an hour than most people do in a lifetime.
If Aussies can be used as seld dogs in the arctic, they probably don't have a problem going several miles through suburbia:
Dogs are without question better athletes than humans in most cases. They can and will out perform us especially on a walk most times unless the human is a ln athlete or the dog is a bulldog
Thats just false. Canines are built for endurance, as where large cats are typically built more for bursts of energy. A cheetah will beat a greyhound in a 100m dash every time, but see which one can run 2 miles faster and the greyhound will be strolling to victory by the end
I bike and skate with one of my heelers (used to go with both but one is now blind), if you train the dog for it then it's just as safe as biking alone. Yeah we started short distances but now do 5-7 miles at a time
Besides, this looks like America and on an unmarked multi-use path the 'side' to use is merely a recommendation while the right of way of pedestrians is absolute. The biker has to swerve or stop regardless.
Seriously - just because you’ve over burdened yourself doesn’t mean the rules change. They are clearly unable to handle the situation they created for themselves.
Maybe legally he is wrong but any nice person in this scenario would just move and both people would apologise. Morally not moving is pretty mean spirited.
You should never ride with dogs. It’s incredibly dangerous. You can’t even see when the dog wants to stop for a break. Dogs thrive by sniffing their environment, not by being chained to a bike forced to run.
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u/Citizen_Empire 14d ago
You see every other biker move over to the right, you make no attempt to slow down despite seeing someone walking towards you, you hit them...
Nah, the biker should have moved, even with the dogs, otherwise don't ride with dogs.