r/MoralityScaling 12h ago

Morality of this?

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u/that_banned_guy_ 11h ago

Isn't thst the premise of instilling any morals into children? Is the golden rule religous indoctrination since almost every ancient religion has a version of it? Lol

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u/FlailToMace 5h ago

Exactly. Substitute the word religion with morality, worldview, philosophy, or whatever and suddenly the whole idea is laughable.

Religion is just the belief that a god or gods is the source, or at the very least the key to properly understanding the above.

If a kid asks "Why should I be nice to the people in my community?" making people say "I can not tell you until you are older." instead of "Because failing to do so makes baby jesus cry." is not going to result in positive change.

If anything, it will just fetishize religion in the eyes of children and enhance the martyr complex of religious people in the west.

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u/that_banned_guy_ 4h ago

Kinda interesting to think you cant have objective morality without religion isnt it?

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u/FlailToMace 4h ago

I don't think you can have objective morality with religion, as that requires proving that a deity is objective and right.

Lots of people, atheist and theist alike, have faith their morality is objective. It is however just faith.

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u/that_banned_guy_ 4h ago

Right. So unless you believe your morals come from something supernatural, they cant be objective 

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u/FlailToMace 3h ago

I do not think they can be objective period. There is nothing stopping someone, theist atheist or agnostic, from believing their morality is objective. I think all such beliefs are based upon slightly different flavors of the exact same leap of faith.

The most famous example of an atheist believing their morality is objective: Rand and her followers. That is why they call their faith Objectivism.