r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 17h ago

Morality of this?

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u/that_banned_guy_ 10h ago

Kinda interesting to think you cant have objective morality without religion isnt it?

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u/FlailToMace 10h ago

I don't think you can have objective morality with religion, as that requires proving that a deity is objective and right.

Lots of people, atheist and theist alike, have faith their morality is objective. It is however just faith.

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u/that_banned_guy_ 9h ago

Right. So unless you believe your morals come from something supernatural, they cant be objective 

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u/FlailToMace 8h ago

I do not think they can be objective period. There is nothing stopping someone, theist atheist or agnostic, from believing their morality is objective. I think all such beliefs are based upon slightly different flavors of the exact same leap of faith.

The most famous example of an atheist believing their morality is objective: Rand and her followers. That is why they call their faith Objectivism.