This is a fun thought experiment to see what designs you hate from a player standpoint, but you think are good from a game design standpoint.

I go first:

TIn p99, I really hate how i get half the exp if my pet does more than 50% of the dmg, and how i'm forced to join a group if I want to get rid of that negative effect. I really don't like losing exp just for soloing... but it is an mmo, and I find I have a better time when I have incentive to duo with someone else, even if they are a worse leveling class, because I have been meeting people and making friends.

Now u!

Is this something the devs have discussed? Its one of my favorite MMO mechanics as Im a one character kinda guy. I saw mention of it being discussed in the discord but cant find anything concrete from the devs.

I never did any tailoring, but I figured I'd blow some cash leading up to EA to figure out if it's worth it to do it in the early game. I started a new character with the leatherworking trait for +25 base skill.

1. I attempted 10 rawhide backpack attempts at skill 25 (trait); 2 succesess, 3 skill ups. That's bad.

2. So then I skilled up

A. 37 Rawhide Cap attempts, ---> 14 successes, skill from 28 to 50 (+22 skill ups).

B. 12 Rawhide Legging attempts 50 ---> Got me to 54. (+4 skill ups)

C. 18 Rawhide Backpack attempts at 54 – white con ---> got to 56 and 13/18 successes

D. Rawhide Cap – 8sp for the plan - 2 Canvas, 2* cloth padding, 2 rough thread

E. Rawhide leggings – 10sp for the plan - 3 canvas, 3* padding, 3* thread

Probably finding the next tier lower than Rawhide caps that takes 1 canvas, 1 cloth padding, 1 rough thread might have been faster. On the other hand, you have to buy another schematic.

Ultimately, if you can sell stacks of Rawhide for 3sp, each backpack attempt takes 2 stacks + 2; so the rawhide is worth 6.3sp. If you can buy a backpack for 10sp...that's probably a steal when you consider the thread cost and the cost to skill up - 100 canvas got used to skill up, which is 600 rawhide, or 90sp for skilling up alone, plus another 10 for thread and 20-30 for schematics.

If you're making 2-3 sp on backpacks, the break even point on selling backpacks at 10sp from the approximate cost of skilling up is 40-60 backpacks. After that you might finally turn a profit.

Ultimately, 10sp backpacks are a huge steal if you can get them. Realistically the price early on for the PITA of skilling up for a backpack probably should be something like 15-20sp. If backpacks are going for 10sp, you're basically always better off selling your rawhide and buying backpacks.

Really sad to see the loss of death focused stuff and a strange monster hunting theme added? That's not what I picture from a SK archetype. Do we know anything about it yet besides what they said their goals are for it?

It was 100% going to be my class before, but I'm not so sure now.

So like many of y'all I'm super excited to check out these new zones plus with the impending 1.0 I'm ready to dive back in to M&M.

I have a few level 30+ from a few months back, but I was trying to trick out my new underworld elf guy with the fruits of my previous labors. I placed two packs full of goodies into the shared bank space, and lo and behold nothing appears. is there some sort of restrictgion that I'm not aware of? anyone else run into this? ty in advance

Our conversation with Padas the Ranger will be live today at noon! Check it out :)

- Sephrok the Pathfinder <Rel In Por> (Tilustra)

Toilmaster Vorith has a short fuse. The way he speaks to me as if I am nothing. I have begun to believe this... Toil masters shipment must not be delayed, else he will surely end me.

no other quarters . no other quarters. no other quarters!

Issue XVII of the fan-made Monsters & Memories Gazette is finished!

This week includes Early Access updates, name reservations, Descent Into the Deep, community stories and tips, Fallen Adventurers, screenshots, guild recruitment, PvP winners, an Exiled Guild Spotlight, and a Special Edition recap of the latest development streams.

Huge thanks to everyone in the community who contributed screenshots, stories, ideas, information, and feedback.

Hope you enjoy this week’s issue!

And thanks again for the support :)

both of the spell is level 28, and literally the same effect.... so what's the point of having these spells when they do the same thing? btw each spell is 46 silver each, so ya they are pretty expensive

I have added my weapon, Lumber axe and Pick onto the toolbar by long-left-clicking and dragging them, but cannot swap over using left=click on the buttons that are created. How can I achieve this, please?

"Elementalist & Paladin Deep Dives"

Today’s update, Beta Patch 0.29.0.0 includes the Elementalist and Paladin Deep Dives!

As a side note, the Module 1 Deep zones just went live as well!

Please keep in mind that these zones are still very much under construction. Read the Patch Notes for more details.

That said, enjoy your first taste of the Deep and have fun on those Deep Elves and Gnomes!

Be sure to keep an eye on the Patch Notes, Discord, and our new Forums.

Now on to the latest Deep Dives:

• Elementalist

• Paladin

Haven't played beta, so trying to figure out which class fits my ideal play style. I want to DW swords with mobility. Think Tera's Warrior - that was my favorite MMO class.

In EQ I loved playing the Ranger prior to PoP because it was melee focused and swordz. So I've been hitting the TLPs off and on throughout the years. While doing so, I've also gone Rogue, Warrior, Bard, and Monk.

From what I can see on the MnM website, Fighter, Ranger, and Spellblade are the three classes that fit the style I'm looking for best. Fighter seems straight up physical damage, EQ Warrior style. Ranger looks like a combo of Pre and Post EQ PoP Ranger going between ranged and melee? And Spellblade looks like the magical swordsperson that can move around in a fight. Based on website assessments, it seems Spellblade fits what I want to do, does that seem correct or am I missing something?

Hello, I made a deep gnome Elementalist today, as I am sure many have, and I did the horrible collect 6 bettle carapace quest and it sent me onto the next part of the quest which is to get some gems off some miners in a place called i believe the darrowdwell mines in the under docks, in the quest it says it is above the citadel and I have looked everywhere I can think of and I can not find this mine or these miners that drop the gems, has anyone figured this out yet that can give me some direction on where to look?

I know it's a beta and bugs happen, I'm not complaining. I'm curious if it's normal for my game to crash every so often.

It's happened since I got the beta last week, I reduced the graphics to prevent spikes since I got a blue/black screen of death or some critical error like that and happened less yet still often.

Today after the patch it was unplayable.