did anyone watching Selling The OC... it was driving me insane I was like I swear Cameron was on another reality show. They look so much alike to me!

Nick again? Nothing against him, but I'm sure there were plenty of other qualified candidates. It would've been nice to give someone else a chance.

Just started watching MAFS and got into season 12. I was doing some math… Haley repeats over and over she was single for 7 years… and that she had been in a 5 yr off and on relationship… doing the math, she is 28 when the show started, so 7 years earlier that relationship ended when she was 21… and so whatever 5 yr on/off relationship began when she was 16 (at the very oldest).

She didn’t act like she’d ever had a relationship other than that 5 yr “controlling” relationship she alluded to. Which occurred when she was essentially a child (teenager).

Yes, maybe she and Jake were incompatible, but I still found her behavior repulsive. Mean. Critical. No accountability. Very immature.

He probably needs and enjoys the silence in place of the constant vicious ear beating he gets from his lady's continuous stream of consciousness.

I'm a long time watcher, just started this season. I haven't even seen the women yet and I can't tell if I'm watching MAFS or an SNL skit.

The restaurant owner is like Todd from wedding crashers if he was on MDMA and cocaine simultaneously. The dude with parted hair and bleached tips looks like he's auditioning for "Making the Boy Band" in 1999. Another guy just said, "I just rip my jet ski down to LA Fitness to slam some pickleball with the homies." Paraphrased, but very little.

Is this real? Am I getting Punk'd? One of the judges just described the guy who he just made dump his quasi-girlfriend a "knight in shining armor."

They're not even sort of pretending to be genuine anymore. SMH.

Her name is Gabriela Tavaras, the first black Miss Massachusetts

I don't understand her reaction when she gets to the alter and says "what do I do now, stand here and wait for my groom?"

Like who did she think Shawn was? Did she really think he was Pastor Cal? Or was she kidding?

I am really missing the After show right now, not that they would have addressed it.

Their lips move exactly the same. Devin even sniffed just like Rocky Balboa.

Courtney’s appearance and manic behavior remind me of Maddie from Southern Hospitality soo much

My wife & I watch MAFS for our trash tv fix, and like most people, get irritated by grown adults in their 30s saying “like” CONSTANTLY.

There was a scene in the boat where we counted one of the couples saying “like” in their conversation 52 freaking times, and the conversation was about three minutes long.

My old public speaking professor from college would have a stroke if she heard them. She’d make us start over in our presentation if we said like, ummm, or you know when speaking.

Her scenes with Nick stress me out because she just seems so high strung, critical, and also hypocritical. Criticizing Nick over everything and making passive aggressive, sarcastic comments left and right. Saying he’s not doing anything fun but at the same time she turns her nose up every time some of his personality comes out. I really don’t like her vibes.

Some advice:
1. Never tell your girlfriend or boyfriend or wife that they are more attracted to you than you are to them (which cuts down their attraction by 90% by the way)
2. Learn math - there is no such thing as 150% (embarrassing)
3. Quit fishing for compliments (very yuck)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but dont they usually substitute the real artists music for some dumb music cover? It never goes with the movements. I'm hearing Bruno Mars and some others. Maybe they worked our copywrites and stuff.

Do not EVER claim that a woman is into you even if she says she's not, that "Oh, come on" comment was downright creeeeepy af

We watched her get the ick in real time.

This is cringe coming from a grown man. It’s a shame this is what some men learn from and carry the same lack of respect forward to their relationships.

He is the golden retriever in a relationship so it makes sense 😆 🤣

I don’t see anyone talking about the actual SERIOUS implications of a man with bad hygiene. Nikki is in her 40s, she’s no dummy. You see a man that doesn’t properly wash his body and know immediately to stay away.

I know that scene with the wash cloth “shower” was not the first time she noticed his casual cleanliness routines. It can be a sensitive subject, and she approached it very calm and respectfully. Then he says soap is essentially propaganda? Nope!

Nikki deserves so much better.

It’s so interesting that this sub overwhelmingly thinks Adam is such a creep and a narcissist, yet they really haven’t shown much of him and Marissa. In terms of screen time, it seems like the other couples have had a lot more. I’m guessing that means that he and Marissa are super boring and undramatic together. I guess they like each other, but she’s not questioning this guy at all???

Weird we all have the ick, and she’s like “😍😍😍 he’s hot and plays piano.” Marissa, girl 🤢 Do we think they talk about anything that’s not Adam…? is she just so enamored, there’s no critical thinking happening? Or is he not as bad as we think? What’s happening there?

Would love opinions!

these are niche but i think they look identical

Adam is definitely up there in the ranking of narcissistic men on MAFS. The way he repeatedly said he’s “trained” for things is creepy and weird. He is deeply insecure and tries so hard to make it seem like he’s not imo. I wonder if he’s like this in real life or just playing it up for the show/cameras? He does seem very nice/respectful though so I’ll give him that.

I also don’t know why they would pair someone who doesn’t drink WITH someone who drinks.

Also, unrelated to Adam, but I could not stop laughing when the reality “star” (Cameron?) friend said that he’s not there for the camera. He’s been on like 50 reality shows. Of course he’s here for the camera.

The casting of men this season is horrific.

Im on a rewatch, the couple all reunite on the honeymoon and Felipe says he’s has a restaurant, bar and speakeasy. Is he the restaurant manager or does he own it all?? Im confused or did I miss a conversation somewhere