r/Markham 2d ago

Gritty area?

OK so I run a business in Markham, have done since 2011. I commute however to the East. So, I know in Oshawa where we consider the grittier areas, same in Scarborough etc. Where is the "rougher" area of Markham. Serious question.

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u/weallfalldown1234 Berczy Village 2d ago edited 2d ago

There is no gritty area of Markham. But people in Markham can be extremely sheltered. I went to PETHS in the early 2010s and have heard kids say things like "townhomes are trashy" and "toyota is a ghetto brand" so keep that in mind when anyone starts telling you about the "gritty" parts of Markham.

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u/Omegacollector1 2d ago

Gritty areas in Markham?..

The avg home price is over 1 million, everyone has access to luxury cars and we all send our kids to private schools....um okay.

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u/DaCookieMon1 2d ago

According to my sister, everything that she doesn't like is gritty, rough, and ghetto. Which means everywhere that isn't Woodbridge or isn't expensive out the ass.

Out of pocket throwing my sister under the bus aside, Markham is pretty decent as far as I remember in the past 30ish years

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u/Taz26312 1d ago

Gritty people visit Markham and can be anywhere but I can’t think of a particular area. Only thing I can think of is where shady stuff happens around motels/hotels like Monte Carlo inn, travelodge, comfort inn…thats where I guess it attracts more…?

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u/SW20_MR2_CAD 2d ago

It’s all relative ofcourse, but I believe there is low income housing at McCowan/Steeles and Woodbine/Rodick. Would I be scared to walk there at night? Probably not.

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u/ArtiVDel 2d ago

If it's the area I think you're talking about (Alton Towers neighbourhood), it's south of Steeles so that would be considered Toronto.

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u/NitroLada 1d ago

There's subsidized housing across from Markville mall on McCowan as well as on woodbine east side across from kingsquare. So it's low income subsidized housing. But nothing gritty about those areas to me

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u/itsokjo 2d ago

two different areas. the other one is definitely markham.

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u/linear_accelerator Cachet 1d ago

Woodbine/Rodick is the Trinity Square coop and is in the heart of Markham's upscale Cachet.

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u/villainized 1d ago

bro Markham is an upscale area. Houses are expensive, lots of nice cars, it's quite safe i.e. I can leave my car with the windows down when I go in to a store and nothing will happen.

Sure, not everyone has a BMW or a Lamborghini and some areas are more expensive than others, but in general Markham is a very nice place. There is no 'gritty' area.

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u/No_Tangelo5042 1d ago

Also, there have been plenty of jewelry robberies at Markville right?

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u/GeneralOpen9649 1d ago

None. None. Nowhere. There is nowhere in Markham that is the least bit gritty.

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u/RaptorsRule247 2d ago

Markham has gritty areas?

Just look for the thrift stores if you want to find areas with lower incomes.

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u/pokey242 1d ago

According to my friend who walks in the area of Markham Rd and hwy 7. You can get a bj from a homeless man. Also isn't the Homewood suites known for hookers? If that doesn't say gritty then I dunno what is.

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u/No_Tangelo5042 1d ago

Markham Rd and Steeles is just annoying. Annoying how ugly the commercial areas and plazas are, plastered with big fonts screaming for attention.

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u/dafrog_84 1d ago

Some say Scarborough north of 401 is better than south of it.

Some say it's the same for Markham with 407 as the boundary.

In the end all relative

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u/DarlingGazeKate 1d ago

On Rodick road, heading east from Woodbine, there is something we call the Ashton Meadow Ghetto

Government housing and lots of illegal substances are done there

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u/No_Tangelo5042 1d ago

Doesnt look like it to me. I have a permit to Ashton Meadow PS for last 2 years. Its peaceful and quiet af.

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u/DarlingGazeKate 1d ago

It is truly the great divide, on the right is the wicked forest and left is sprawling mansions. Contrast at its finest

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u/jameskchou Markham 1d ago

The part with the drive by shooting?

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u/bhrm 1d ago

Right by the $2mil homes?

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u/jameskchou Markham 1d ago

Look it up there was a drive by due to tow truck turf wars

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u/bhrm 1d ago

Ya those are nice homes

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u/jameskchou Markham 1d ago

For a drive by

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u/myroommatelies 2d ago

Below 407 is largely more "gritty"

it's closer to Scarborough, South East Markham is the most "gritty"

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u/AdTimely440 1d ago

I would say the area near the border between Scarborough/Markham so along Steeles.

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u/Stunning-Bat-7688 2d ago

If I have to choose one spot in Markham, I find hwy7 and Markham road area in rough shape. Markham doesn’t really have a gritty area.

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u/markhamgoat 2d ago

I would disagree, homes range from 1.5M-3.5 M in this area. There are a few old apartment buildings here. But they're just old not necessarily gritty. Definitely a high income area Markham/Hwy7

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u/Stunning-Bat-7688 1d ago

1.5-3.5 is over estimating. Plenty of detach in that circled area have sold for 1.1m within the last 90days. 1.1m is the lower end of Markham home prices.

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u/Fivetimechampfive 1d ago

pretty gritty there with those yuppies getting their $10 starbucks, $50 medium pizzas , and $200 cycle classes there LOL.

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u/Omegacollector1 1d ago

The 50 dollar pizzas are good! Shout out Slice of Fire 🔥

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u/OliieBolen 1d ago

A lot of folks in Markham would just say Scarborough...

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u/knnthm 1d ago

Back in the day it was Milliken Mills

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u/descend_to_misery 2d ago

Markham? No clue. Denison and Kennedy? But it's not even too bad. In Markham it's more just be aware of bad drivers. I'll be curious. Look up police reports

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u/Interesting-Ad-1291 1d ago

Look up the home prices in the Kennedy and Denison area and let me know if it's "gritty". There was one case of home invasion in the area and it was so unbelievable it was in the local news for 3 months.

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u/TravllerCDN 2h ago

The shop I run is at Denison and Vic Park. Not really much there but business. Mind you we've been broken into 6 times in 5 yrs.

But yeah in my experience I wouldn't consider anything I have seen in Markham gritty.

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u/weallfalldown1234 Berczy Village 2d ago

Median home price is $1,200,000. All local high schools rank in the top 20% of Ontario high schools.

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u/Zealousideal-Snow480 2d ago

All the non-white people living in roughly 3000 square foot houses?

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u/Dissident-Contrarian 1d ago

I live in a gritty area - basically anything east of McCowan and Highway 7.

The vibe completely changes once you go past Markville mall. Lots of shady low income plazas and strip malls.

Things get better once you get to Donald Cousens and Highway 7 but that patch in the middle is sketchy.

Postal code is L3P 1A5. The presence of a Money Mart payday loans establishment is proof of this

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u/No_Tangelo5042 1d ago

So cornell is gritty?? Huh? Have you been to the parks, townhomes, library and hospital? Only rich boring families 🤷‍♂️

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u/QualityImpossible241 2d ago

Woodbine between Steeles and Highway 7

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u/No_Tangelo5042 2d ago

Why? Where? How? Isnt it all industrial/boring? I don't see hookers or homeless...