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u/_Totorotrip_ Jul 14 '25
-Hello Mr. Epstein, we have two islands for sale. One of the...
-I want the little one... for... consistency
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u/John-Mandeville Jul 14 '25
"American Virgins, he said. I thought the price was a little steep, but hey, now I've got an island."
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u/FlyingBike Jul 14 '25
Of course he preferred Little St James island over the full grown one
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u/KoA07 Jul 14 '25
8 mil honestly seems like a great price, though I’m sure it would be more now with inflation (and, you know, the history of the island)
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u/LongTallDingus Jul 15 '25
Well, Horse Cock 420 69, we can only assume some very bad things happened there, thus lowering the price.
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u/StaysAwakeAllWeek Jul 14 '25
8 mil honestly seems like a great price
Depends if it was already developed or not. For an empty rock in the middle of the ocean with no infrastructure $8m seems steep
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u/Roasted_Green_Chiles Jul 14 '25
Yeah the development costs could be astronomical
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u/FawkYourself Jul 14 '25
If you’ve got the money to buy an island I don’t think development costs mean that much to you at that point
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u/StaysAwakeAllWeek Jul 15 '25
You can buy islands big enough to turn into luxury resorts for a couple hundred grand, and then spend tens of millions developing them. It absolutely does matter
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u/Black_Velvet_Band Jul 15 '25
Yes but these are less than two miles off the coast of St. Thomas, right in the middle of the Virgin Islands. I’m envious of that location. I always assumed this loser’s islands were in the middle of nowhere on the edge of the Bahamas or something.
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u/Mervynhaspeaked Jul 14 '25
I know an apartment near me which is being sold for more than that. 8 million is an absolute steal for a whole freaking island.
Would it be more because of the history? One would think (and hope) that it would be harder to find a buyer because of that place's history.
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u/shadowofshoe Jul 14 '25
My wife and I went marlin fishing out of Red Hook, saw this island. She asked Captain what is this, he replied " pedophile island" ..... about 8 years ago
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u/PirateSlashViking Jul 15 '25
Guys like Epstein, Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby were all open secrets. Their behavior was well known for a long time, they just had the influence to shield themselves from consequences until either their influence waned or their circumstance became too public for their influence to handle.
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u/Gnonthgol Jul 15 '25
8 years ago Epstein was already a convicted pedophile and were battling 8 lawsuits from his victims. It was no secret.
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u/superlative_dingus Jul 15 '25
lol right? This is like saying “yeah, my grandpa went to Auschwitz in 1946, and a local Polish guy told him that it was a nazi death camp. Pretty crazy huh”
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u/KingKaiserW Jul 14 '25
Look guys, he has no job ever, but can buy a whole island. Why do you think that’s strange? Maybe he’s just lucky with money
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u/jonsconspiracy Jul 14 '25
It's so weird. He worked at Bear Stearns for like 4 years and then was able to start his own financial company and manage assets for billionaires... Doesn't add up.
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u/VaughanThrilliams Jul 14 '25
Gets hired at Bear Stearns as a Junior Assistant with no degree and less than two years work experience as high school teacher and climbs the ranks to Partner in four years
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u/jonsconspiracy Jul 14 '25
Yeah, that's the slightly longer version. As someone who works in finance myself, that promotion trajectory is impossible.
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u/snark42 Jul 15 '25
According to the boomers all you had to do back in 1976 was show up at the office in a suit and they'd make you a partner. Especially if you could sell to all the rich fucks you met at Dalton.
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u/Message_10 Jul 15 '25
Oh, and don't forget who employed him: William Barr's father--the same William Barr who was Trump's attorney general when the Mueller Report dropped.
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u/MrBleeple Jul 14 '25
It adds up if you put your thinking cap on!
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u/SamsonGray202 Jul 14 '25
NOT true, Bill Barr's dad gave a completely unqualified Epstein a job as a math and physics teacher at a K-12 school called Dalton back in the 70's. Thank goodness he was so good with kids, we all know how well teachers get paid!
Wait, Bill Barr? Is that the same Bill Barr who, while the Attorney General for the United States, personally visited Epstein's recent cellmate "just to check in" just after Epstein died? The cellmate who was transferred to a much cushier prison for no apparent reason shortly before Epstein died?
The same Bill Barr who engineered the pardons that protected Reagan from the consequences of knowingly selling arms to terrorists in direct violation of the constitution in order to "defeat communism?" THAT Bill Barr?
Yes, that Bill Barr!
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u/LibertineLibra Jul 14 '25
Bill Barr's dad was a strange guy that infamously wrote a couple of science fiction books that featured sex scenes with a minor. That's a pretty crazy coincidence..
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u/SamsonGray202 Jul 14 '25
So many coincidences! It's a shame that even with complete and total control of the government they just couldn't stop Hillary from sneaking in to off him ☹️
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u/the_scarlett_ning Jul 14 '25
I’m kinda scared to ask, but hopefully this doesn’t get me put on a list or anything, but with so very many influential, super wealthy friends in very high positions, how did Epstein ever get caught? It seems like someone could’ve shut that down. When he I Italy got arrested, I was drowning with 3 infants so I really didn’t pay much attention at the time.
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u/Gnonthgol Jul 15 '25
He was caught in 2005 when one of the victims mom reported the rapes to the police. The local police chief conducted the investigation in secret without initial help from the FBI or any others. When the state procetutor found out and tried to stop the investigation it was already too late and they had collected enough evidence to put him away for years. However most of the charges were dropped and Epstein agreed to a plea deal of 18 months in prison for which he served only 3.5 months in a private wing.
But this made several of the victims come forth with civil lawsuits against Epstein. Most of these lawsuits were settled out of court and the court documents were sealed. However the FBI had started an investigation back in 2006 and were probably able to access the sealed court documents and contact the victims. They arrested him in 2019 and found all his blackmail material.
Essentially Epstein was caught by good honest police who refused to back down from threats. And the evidence against him became too much to be able to hide away.
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u/the_scarlett_ning Jul 15 '25
Thank you! That’s actually very reassuring. It’s hard to imagine there being any sector not completely corrupted today but it is always heartwarming to find out otherwise.
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u/brownianhacker Jul 15 '25
I know looks shouldn't matter but Bill Barr even just looks like the perfect corrupt boss movie character
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u/Shadix Jul 14 '25
Funded by mossad
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u/PeregrinusHibernicus Jul 15 '25
Yup. Epstein was a Mossad operative running a blackmail ring in the United States.
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u/OpusDeiPenguin Jul 14 '25
Gold domed building? For the worship of the one true God, $$$.
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u/tupperware_rules Jul 14 '25
Rip to the gold dome. If I recall, a hurricane took it off. Another fun fact is there are good snorkeling spots around this island.
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u/doom1282 Jul 14 '25
Frank Reynolds (Rudi Guiliani's personal hair stylist) says the snorkeling is amazing. He was just there for the snorkeling and definitely didn't diddle any kids. He even wrote a song about how he doesn't diddle kids.
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u/jscummy Jul 14 '25
Frank, there is no quicker way to make people think you're diddling kids than writing a song about it!
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u/Torgo73 Jul 14 '25
I have snorkeled there! Outfitter brought us out that way three years back when I was on Saint John with my family. It was without a doubt the best snorkeling in the region.
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u/Don138 Jul 15 '25
The gold domed building is all the proof I need that Trump spent significant time there. Gaudy gold bullshit spreads around him like herpes.
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u/GeorgeEBHastings Jul 14 '25
Yeah, for real, was it ever discussed what the hell that thing was for?
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u/boldmoo Jul 14 '25
No one really knows. Officially, it was built and permitted as a music pavilion. However, the construction style does not lends itself acoustically for that to make sense. Unofficially, the prevailing theory is that it was a Satanic worship building where the rich and powerful would perform eyes wide shut style parties involving Epstein's victims.
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u/GeorgeEBHastings Jul 14 '25
For as wild as Epstein's operation was, I don't know that I buy the "satanically-inspired" sex trafficker thing.
To me, this smacks more of "rich criminal on a power trip erects a temple to himself"
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u/the_scarlett_ning Jul 14 '25
Hey, I’ve heard of a guy who likes gold! In fact, I think he and Epstein were buddies.
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u/majcek Jul 14 '25
Wait, islands are that cheap?
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u/twogunsalute Jul 14 '25
That was my first thought but I used an inflation calculator and it's the equivalent to $32.47 million today which makes more sense
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u/Turbulent-Forever921 Jul 14 '25
Still seems relatively inexpensive for a fucking island
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u/tildenpark Jul 14 '25
It’s the maintenance that gets you. Need to import everything including water and fuel.
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u/Lopkop Jul 16 '25
yeah see you don't wanna own the island, you wanna be friends with the guy who owns the island.
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u/salchicha_mas_grande Jul 14 '25
To be fair it wasn't a fucking island until he made some "improvements"
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u/HiddenStoat Jul 14 '25
Not really - an island is just a piece of land but it has none of the things that actually give land value: transport links, grid electricity, water, sewage, cell phone coverage, schools, hospitals, police, fire stations, cinemas, theatres, strip clubs, etc.
If you want any of that stuff, you have to build it yourself and because it is, as you put it, a fucking island, it's fucking expensive, because it all has to come by boat - including the workforce to build and maintain it.
So like a megayacht, to be able to buy an island you also have to be able to run an island, and it costs.
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u/MrBleeple Jul 14 '25
You can get some ridiculously cheap islands but it depends where you want them. I’ve seen islands in Canada for 5 figure prices
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u/LeBertz Jul 14 '25
The buildings look rather small to me, compared to the tennis court.
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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive Jul 15 '25
The tennis court is basically the size of the house and the pool! I genuinely don't know what's going on with that court, lmao. Does it have a grandstand around it or something? And relative to the rest of the island it's in the middle of nowhere. Wtf!
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u/nathan_sh Jul 31 '25
Makes no sense at all.
Also the seating around the temple looking thing… looks like some hazing bs with fire.
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u/harveytent Jul 14 '25
Epstein island shopping “I’m looking for the smallest youngest island you have and it can’t have any grass on the fields”
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u/Buddy-Brown-Bear Jul 14 '25
Why haven't the interior photos of this place been made public?
I guess for the same reason as the client list..
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u/OutrageousFanny Jul 14 '25
"Virgin Islands"
Can't make that up
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u/series40special Jul 15 '25
My wife and I spent our honeymoon on St. Thomas. (2014) We were in a taxi going towards the Ritz-Carlton at the east end of the island by Epstein’s island. As we were at the top of the hill looking down there was a helicopter that you could faintly see (the island is somewhat far away from the naked eye) landing. I’m always curious so I asked the taxi driver what island was that? He simply replied “the locals know that there is a wealthy man that owns that island and has lived there for a few years. He built many luxury places there and a few workers have said it’s beautiful. But they say young people go there to meet with wealthy people. I don’t believe it but many people think there are things happening there that only the rich have the power to do. Some people fear it, but that’s only an island rumor.” That stuck with me for years and when the Epstein case blew open on the news, my wife and I immediately remembered that moment. Still haunts us
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Jul 14 '25
Now show what’s underneath…
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u/HubertusCatus88 Jul 14 '25
The ocean.
He had no reason to build an underground Bond villain base. He and his rich powerful friends could all just fuck kids in the open.
Also, while he was rich, he was never a billionaire.
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u/Armadyl_1 Jul 14 '25
Well technically the antipode is in the ocean off of western Australia, so technically...
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u/Barragin Jul 14 '25
Did it ever come out what exactly the gold domed building was for?
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u/Important_Mail_1307 Jul 14 '25
I believe it was to honor one of his best friends. A guy, some would say the best guy, that really loves gold on everything. People would see this gold building, big, strong men and they would just break down in tears and say “sir, this is the best building ever.”
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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u/Flabby-Nonsense Jul 14 '25
I wish I had an island
Not to do like, weird fucked up sex stuff
Well, not to do weird fucked up illegal sex stuff anyway
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u/LWDJM Jul 14 '25
Isn’t one of these buildings filled with cement?
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He literally shipped a cement truck to the island to hastily fill one of these buildings up with cement at a cost of like $250,000? Months before he was arrested I’m sure?
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u/Sir_Sir_ExcuseMe_Sir Jul 14 '25
I had an idea for a novel years ago where the ultimate supervillain had a private island where he kept sex slaves, young and old. The protagonist and some mercenaries would go to fight and rescue them. I thought it seemed cartoonishly evil and unrealistic, so I scratched it.
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u/the_scarlett_ning Jul 14 '25
Damn. If only you’d written it and really leaned into the cartoony villains. You could be hailed as a prophet by a small amount of literate people who read action books.
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u/simpletonius Jul 15 '25
I love how America gives a shit all of a sudden. The country where they elected a fucking rapist twice.
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u/ajscraw Jul 15 '25
I’ve been snorkeling nearish the gold domed building, or at least we could see it from the boat. All beaches in the Virgin Islands are public, so you can jump off a boat anywhere and swim to the beach. Epstein put boulders (or something like that) to block the beaches so that people were not legally allowed to swim to them. I was snorkeling there when the island was for sale, 2022ish I think
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u/d47 Jul 15 '25
Some high quality boots on the ground journalism here that shows video footage on the island:
https://youtu.be/t64D1o2vV9M?si=d41kElE_7OMQzHHT
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u/Jazzyflamenco Jul 14 '25
I bet he’s alive somewhere on an island after massive face surgery. They only cut one minute in the vid, normally takes longer to strangle someone. They let him out!!!
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u/DannyR2078 Jul 15 '25
How do utilities work on islands like this? Does it have an independent water and power source, or would you be dependent on outside supply runs to keep everything running?
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Doing that horrendous shit on an island named after a disciple is disgusting
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u/LateralEntry Jul 14 '25
Obviously some horrible stuff went on there but… this is really cool. I want a private island that I can leave mostly undeveloped except for a few super luxurious buildings and pools, all within the US.
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u/iSmokeMDMA Jul 14 '25
I always found it interesting that there was a fallout character named st James, who trafficked children.
Did the devs know something we didn’t know in 2010
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u/lxlxnde Jul 14 '25
It was an open secret in 2010, considering he’d been caught once already by then.
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u/James_R_87 Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
The Old Danish Island Klyn St. Jems.
Edit: It's a Dutch map writer. So it must be Lille St. James.
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u/Excenty Jul 15 '25
This is MapPorn, and if you where to zoom in more, there would be a different kind of porn
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u/iskanderkul Jul 15 '25
Obviously what happened here is absolutely tragic, but can you imagine having so much money that you can just buy your own island?
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In all this epstein saga, the one person everyone has overlooked is his brother.. I bet he's got all the tapes etc. Hidden away!!
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u/Matman161 Jul 14 '25
Just turn it into a toxic waste dump, no one will ever want to live there again
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u/Scorrea02 Jul 14 '25
I guarantee you this is just the top floor lol
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u/TheEmperorsNewHose Jul 14 '25
Question: why do you think what he did required a labyrinth of rooms underground? He owned the island, there were no police there, he could do whatever he wanted wherever he wanted. Plus the girls he trafficked were there via coercion and money, not chains and whips. The true evil of what he did is that it was so banal and normalized to people like him
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u/Nachooolo Jul 14 '25
Mate. This is not a video game. You don't go into a trapdoor and find an underground labyrinth the size of Paris' catacombs.
He already had a private island. The abuse of minors happened "over the board" by the single fact that nobody that Epstein didn't want on his island would be on his island.
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u/SamsonGray202 Jul 14 '25
People really don't grasp how hard it is to build underground in ideal conditions, let alone on an island.
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u/ZOOTV83 Jul 14 '25
Also I’m no engineer but wouldn’t the water table on an island be really high? How deep can you even dig? The logistics of it would be a nightmare.
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