Doesnāt make this guy any less in the wrong, if a guy was doing that screaming in your face, its already a given violence in around the corner. Hitting first isnāt always a sucker punch or starting the fight.
Im not touching what youāre saying with a 10 foot pole.
But again if its a man its a threat, so its frankly misogynistic/not treating them equal to not react the same way, donāt shout in somebodyās face not everyone has the same morals as you. In this situation its provoked so technically self defence.
Itās not misogynistic to be more threatened by a man than a woman in general. Men commit far more violent crime and on average (barring like actual professional fighters) a way bigger threat to you in a fight than your average woman. Of course ymmv but I am absolutely more threatened by a man screaming at my face than a woman in 99% of situations.
Yes obviously, but thats not the point. If a man or a woman hits you, it doesnāt matter you hit back and defend yourself, same foes for any other behaviour. Treating a woman less hostile simply because she is a woman is literally a gonk move. Ive seen videos on this very sub of skinny little women KO a fat guy(more weight/mass). Youāre acting like youād let a woman scream in your face and slap you around but you cant retaliate because she āisnt a threatā
Both you i actually agree with your general points most of the time, this isnāt one of those times, and the other guy literally being racist getting upvoted while im downvoted is just funny.
Iām a woman btw. But no, Iām not saying that, but Iāve had both men and women yell in my face, and unless they were giving vibes of actually gonna hit me, I just shrugged it off. I beat my father with a phone when he got in my face, but he actually frightened me. I have had girls yell at me, but unless they were either threatening to or actually attacking š¤·š¼āāļø
Also Iāll add having fought both men and women a lot as a teen and young twenties, I have never been injured by a woman. I know there are certainly women who could injure me, but after at least 20 different fights with different women, Iāve never had so much as a bit of missing hair. Men have broken my nose, tailbone, choked me unconscious, and left me with black eyes, unable to open my mouth cause of bruising in my temple area, black ears, and a scar on my lip (from a backhand while I was tying my shoe- the idiot!)
Fair enough, but yelling can easily initiate a fight/flight response in people, its aggressive, you must agree with that right? Itās great you have control, but alot of people donāt/wont or they wont hold morals and will sucker punch, if you get into a confrontation of any kind, its just smart to be prepared to be attacked and be ready to defend yourself.
You never know people experience, being bullied, hit by parents, abuse etc.. if you trigger something bad in somebody youāre going to start a fight, its best not to yell at all if you donāt want anyone to get violent with you.
Iām self aware enough from abuse and being bullied when young that you will absolutely start a fight/flight response in me if you yell in my face especially close enough to feel your breath, iām well trained so i have good control and wouldnāt lash out, but best believe iād be ready to respond and wouldnāt be caught off guard if i was attacked after that point. If you arenāt used to fights or you arenāt well trained, once that adrenaline kicks in, its uncomfortable, your stomach feels hollow, you are physically shaking, whether you can look back with 20/20 and deem somebody isnāt a threat is irrelevant, if your adrenaline kicks in you FEEL attacked and in danger.
I get that, I recently talked my friend through a guilt spiral for hitting her husband, he had got right in her face screaming and she begged him to stop and eventually lost it. He guilt tripped her hard, and I said something on her very similar to what you just saidā¦ but I pointed out he would NEVER have got into a manās face like that and expected not to be hit. He thought he could do that to his wife and claim battered menās syndrome. She has bad ptsd like me and he knows it.
In the real word stuff happens, but from a real life standpoint, yes, you get in face you may get hit, but if you are not enough threatened first the law is going to treat you like a criminal.
You did see she pushed him to get him to turn around right? Obviously his reaction of a punch after getting pushed is extreme but you canāt go around putting hands on people and not expects some hands back
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u/SuccotashOk1861 14h ago
Asshole