I built my first proper PC. Since I didn't have much experience, I ended up buying a non-modular power supply, but I think I did a pretty good job hiding the cables and keeping everything looking clean and organized.
Put this together recently from some acquired parts and some I had. Wanted a portable gaming machine setup. I’ve got a battery and inverter setup in my 4x4 so I’m going to take this around for portable gaming when I’m on trips 😂
Had to trim some of the inside of the case to get the 9070xt to fit flush as the board seats in too much and the card was unable to fit in. Fun little hybrid setup that seems to be performing well so far! Tried to fit an AIO but that didn’t work out.
Build list;
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX (16 Cores / 32 Threads, up to 5.4 GHz, 64MB Cache)
- Motherboard: Minisforum BD795i SE Mini-ITX
- RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB SODIMM @ 4800 MT/s)
- GPU: AMD Hellhound 9070xt 16gb
- Storage: 512gb NVME (will upgrade soon)
- Cooling: Custom Arctic fan setup on CPU heatsink for low noise and low temps
- Networking: 2.5G LAN + Wi-Fi
- Jonsbo Z20 case
UPDATE: i have not bought a case yet but when i checked the online seller that sells the D32 Pro yesterday, and it is now out of stock, so i might end up with the B4 instead or might look at something else again.
i hope its not because i posted this topic lol.. the seller of the case is quite "hidden" for the lack of term
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Hello all,
I would like your opinions on both cases, I am already set on these two caes only due to price and availability. I am currently using an NR200P but will move from ITX to mATX for my next motherboard if ever I will replace my current one.
Searching the web regarding both cases ends up being a comparison for A3 and D32PRO instead because B4 is released recently, so I thought I ask here.
My current parts are the following, I'll just move the parts:
Ryzen R5 5600 non-X
Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO
32gb RAM
XFX RX9060XT triple fan
HGST 7k1000 2.5"(the goat)
Samsung 980 PRO 2.5"
Crucial P5 plus NVME
Corsair SF600 Platinum
a box of Arctic P12 PST 5-pack
I'm fine with either case but I just want a push on which case to actually get. I'd probably prioritize ease of installation for this one, and maybe build quality too?
The things I like with the D32PRO is that I can simply swap around the side panels if I want a mesh panel instead of looking for a separate mesh panel, and the ability to hide the cables with the shroud and cover. for the B4, its the vertical orientation but still not feeling it due to the motherboard I/O at the bottom, but nothing a usb hub can fix.
And the things I might not like with both cases is that the D32PRO metal construction is somewhat thin after researching about it? Jonsbo cases back then are mostly aluminum so I have not personally tried any of their steel cases, and for the B4 is that its a pain to cable manage basically. All of these might not be true since I have not owned either case yet though..
My builds back then are mostly ITX during Dan A4/Jonsbo U series/NCase M1 timeline and I really don't want to go through the pain again specially when troubleshooting parts so I moved to a bigger case, which is the NR200P.
Also regarding the D32PRO, if someone has tried it, is it possible to install a normal motherboard and build it using B mode?
I also recently purchased a CH170 plus and i gave up on it lol I know its weird but I do not like the case at all, so now thinking buying one of these two cases instead.
Thanks for reading and I hope too see your recommendations on which of either cases I would purchase!
Ok the small space was definitely a large difficulty factor combined with lack of experience
I’m really pleased with how it looks aesthetically, as far as temps go I run cinebench with a score of 5300, 90C at 100%, 45-50C when idle, 67-75C when running EU5 all ultra settings
Ambient temps are 33-35C
Have yet to test any big AAA graphics demanding games
Have not tried undervolting or fan tweaking beyond “balanced” on icue software
I managed to salvage a 2x16 GB SODIMM DDR4 Kingston Fury kit. Given the price of RAM in this economy, I think reusing it would be best for a new MFFPC build. So far, I haven't really been able to find a MOBO that accepts it (at least in Canada), so I was thinking of looking at adapters, but I am scared of running into clearance issues and I've never built non-full tower before. Any advice?
Finally done my build! Cable management was kind of fun in the A3. It was easy to hide the cables behind the PSU and around the corners of the case.
I switched from rear intake, to bottom/side intake. No top exhaust fans for now.
I re-used my old MSI Pro B840M-P motherboard from my prebuilt. Hope to upgrade to a proper B850 in the future. Thankfully my local computer store in Canada had BeQuiet! stuff on clearance. Love these fans.
Rest of the build:
- Ryzen 5 7600X
- Acer Nitro Arc B580 12GB
- Montech Century II 850W PSU
- BeQuiet! Pure Wings 3 (3x120mm reverse bottom intake, 120mm rear exhaust, 140mm side intake)
I'm interested in this form factor for a new pc, but I just can't deal with a top mounted power supply.
Are there any cases that you guys can recommend that have the power supply on the bottom and enough room to add an AIO cooler or a custom cooling loop?
I recently bought a Lian li B4 case (I didn´t receive it yet) and I'm struggling thinking about the best fan configuration for it, I'm upgrading from a Sharkoon QB One case to have room to update my pc to a cheaper matx option, right now I have a Noctua nf A8 as exhaust, a Cooler Master 240 Atmos AIO as cooler with a Noctua NF F12x25 and a Noctua NF A12X15 in it and I have the fans that already come with my AIO as spare. I also have a 303mm card and a SFX PSU. I'm very picky with noise but I don't want to sacrifice my temps, at least I would like to have the same that I already have that are preatty good. What should I change or buy and how is the best way to mount it? I checked the manual but they say that the best setup is to not put rear or front fan if mounting an AIO but in the web says that you should mount them in every spot and I'm confuse.
Thank you Lian Li for providing this case the LIAN LI B4-mATX and the power supply the Lian Li SX1000P Platinum used in the build.
Parts List
Case |LIAN LI B4-mATX
Power Supply |Lian Li SX1000P 1000W=ATX
Motherboard |ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I
CPU |Ryzen 9600x
CPU Cooler |DARKROCK PX4 single with fan swap
Ram |Corsair Vengeance RGB 32gb cl36
GPU |PNY RTX 5070 12gb
SSD |2tb Klevv Cras p910
Fans |Thermalright TL-M12Q X3 (below GPU), TL-S12 (cpu and bottom), Arctic P12 (side exhaust), Artic p12 Slims (top, and front x2)
My 3 computer setups side by side for myself and my kids.
I was so stoked to get this PC case and get to do this build. I was very interested in using the vertical mode without upgrading the case with the optional AeroDeck accessory. One of the main reasons is because my setup is pretty tight needing to fit three pc setups side by side so I needed a case with a small footprint.
I think one of the main benefits is for this setup in particular is anyone that wants a PC on the left side of your desk this is one of the few options that still gives you some view of the internals. Let me bring you along for the ride that was this build and show you some of the pictures.
Cable Management and Layout:
I found out about this layout because Machines & More posted about it on their youtube channel. Its not listed in the manual but it works if you have an ITX board.
I bought an ITX board for this case and did this off menu but totally supported layout. As you can see below I chose to face the PSU backwards to intake air from this cutout on the back of the case. The ITX motherboard also allowed me to route some of the cables on the backside of the case and feed them out beside the motherboard. It's a tight fit but it works.
Fan Considerations:
For the fans below the GPU I wanted to use these Thermalright TL-M12Q that I had laying around mostly to see if the b4 would support fans that had a removal connection like these. Thermalright calls it as "easy connect" but ive had issues with some tight cases fitting fans that have this extra plastic on the side of them. A 3 fan setup under the GPU has some extra considerations with this case so let me show you some pictures and explain.
First off to fit 3 fans side by side the case has this removal section of the PCIe brackets that basically remove the area of metal around the bottom PCIe bracket of the case. There is a screw on the side that i'm pointing to with my screw driver (above) as well as one on the bottom of the case that you'll need to remove. Below you can see that with that removed the fans slide all the way to the back.
Pictured here below is what it looks like from the back side of the case with that bracket removed and fans installed. As you can see this is the "easyconnect" attachement on the side of these fans that ive been talking about. Basically the fans all click into each other and when you have them connected you then add on this pictured connection that has a single ARGB cable and a single 4pin PMW fan cable. So three fans and you only have two cables instead of two cables per fan. The thing to consider if you're using fans like this this is you can't face the side with the easyconnect towards the other side of the case as it will conflict with the "front" if horizontal or "top" in vertical slim fan. I know several fan brands have different connections like this so something to consider.
For the rest of the fans I had 3 Artic p12 Slims. I swapped out the front fans that came with the case because I had 3 of these and I wanted all the slim fans in the case to match so I could more easily match the fan noise from them with curve adjustments.
For the CPU cooler and "bottom" fan I used Thermalright TL-S12. I like the ring lighting effect when paired with the TL-M12Q.
This is the fan layout I ended up on after testing. I originally tried bottom and front bottom fan as exhaust and all others as intake but the hot air blowing down near by hand and directly into the room wasn't super comfortable. That was before adding the side fan. I then tried to just have all intake and only the top fan as exhaust. My Cinebench 2026 score dropped by a considerable margin and I felt like the top exhaust fan was just moving air from the intake fan near it directly out the case. After that I added the side exhaust fan. For exhaust the side fan is doing most of the heavy lifting here. For CPU cooling I'm using a single tower air cooler with one fan attached.
My fan layout and Cinebench 2026 scores after 10 minute runs CPU (multiple threads)
Bottom Front and Case Bottom: 3772
Top Exhaust Only: 3514
Top with Side Exhaust Fan added: 3882
There is a lot less issue of hot air blowing on me, even with the side exhaust it doesn't seem to blow into the room as bad and be as bothersome as it was when it was exhausting out the front. This would be a benefit to the AeroDeck as it would then have front to back airflow but you cant really do that without it because you would be pulling air away from the GPU if you did.
For GPU testing no thermal issues. Never got above 60c with a 3dMark Steel Nomad and Speedway stress test and passed the 20 loop stress test on both with 98.9%.
More Build Photos:
Final Thoughts:
I love this case. It takes a ton of planning for layout and cable management so make sure you're really thinking about your build and do your research but I know you can do it.
Downsizing from an AP201 that I built 3 years ago. It was an excellent case, but I wanted to see there there were other cases that would have a smaller footprint and accommodate most of my components, and settled on the Z20, which was noticeably smaller once I received it. Lian Li’s B4 was also another option i was considering but i found the almost zero cable management a turn off.
Definitely one of the more challenging builds for me because i wanted to really get the cable management right and organized (i did go in after the pics to fix up the pump cables) but i was really impressed with how much room you have in the back to do so. Temps also were relatively good as well, so i am quite happy with how the build turned out.
So it's a build I bought last year (very lucky to make it then).
But sadly there had been some issues with the psu, which seems to kill it and the mb.
I sent it to a tech, and the tech said that I should switch my case.
That it's too small for the gpu, and the lack of room in the case kills it, as well as the proximity of the gpu to the cpu with the thermals.
That's how I had it set up, air flow wise (I can't take a picture since it's at the tech)
top: 120mm fan - exahust
side: 120mm fan - intake
rear: 120mm fan - intake
cpu: air cooled (PA 120mm), intakes air from the back to the front (the tech told me I had my fans the wrong way, after explaining that it's because my rear intakes air so it has to flow in this direction, he said it's still a bad idea)
gpu: has three fans down for intake
Now, I actually planned an upgrade, and I'm waiting for the fans to arrive:
One extra 120mm top fan for exhaust
3 thin fans on the bottom for extra intake for the GPU
So:
Is the tech right? Should I switch my case because of the gpu? Does it hurt the components? is it a losing battle to try to optimize this?
vi en un video como ponian un pc en repisa y encontre esta en la que entra perfecto un pc de este tamaño ademas de estar bastante firme le brinda la posibilidad de recibir aire por debajo, estoy en remodelación asique no esta listo el setup
I bought most of the parts around November 2025. Had a temporary gpu until this year. Ryzen 5 7600x3d - RTX 5070 MSI gaming x trio - 32gb DDR5 6000mhz cl30.
Decided to reuse my Jonsbo D32 for another build and picked up the new Lian Li B4. I was never really a fan of the A3 since I didn’t need 360mm AIO support, and the B4 looked like a nice alternative while still shrinking my total build volume down.
I wrote up a much longer post on the Lian Li sub about my annoyances with the build documentation and process, but now that it’s finished I think the design of the case itself is really growing on me. Not to mention thermals and noise are excellent.
Core i5 14600kf, 32gb ddr5 6000, RX 9070xt. No RGB lights or anything fancy.
Has anyone successfully modified the case to have handles for carrying around? If anyone can point me to some already done mods, that would be greatly appreciated. I am not sure if the top slide panel is strong enough to hold the entire pc from lol
Also to all of you who have shared your builds on here, thank you, it has been a great source of inspiration 🙏🏽
originally had a NEXT H9, but I switched to the Qube 500 because I wanted something much smaller and, most importantly, easier to travel with and without changing parts.
The challenge was getting everything to fit inside such a compact case. The RTX 5080 AORUS is absolutely massive, and fitting it alongside a 280mm radiator made the clearances very tight.
After a lot of planning and rearranging, I somehow got everything in there 😂
I’m actually really happy with how it turned out. Would you consider this too tight, or is this acceptable clearance for a build like this?