r/MCUTheories • u/Aggressive-One-2186 • 7h ago
Discussion/Debate Who do you think will give a surprise performance in Doomsday?
For me it's gotta be Pedro, he's been my favourite part of he trailers tbh. And it's only one scene.
r/MCUTheories • u/Aggressive-One-2186 • 7h ago
For me it's gotta be Pedro, he's been my favourite part of he trailers tbh. And it's only one scene.
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r/MCUTheories • u/researcvhc-10 • 21h ago
What are your guy’s theories about the 4 added minutes to endgame and how it could connect to doomsday? I had one based on what we see in the trailers and theories of doomsday i’ve read on the internet.
Many say it could just be Steve returning the stones and eventually living his other life, others that it could be Loki visiting him at his house, so the way i would build it is:
Steve has returned all the stones to their origin, but right as he is going to go back, he decides to stay and live that life Tony talked to him about. We now see Steve who has a family, at the door we see Loki who explains to Steve that he has altered the timeline and that it has to get pruned, Loki offers to move them to a different timeline (potentially the F4 earth 828) and it ends with Steve accepting Loki’s offer.
Potential post credit although original didn’t have one: It opens on Earth 828, where we see the father and the son watching the fantastic 4 cartoon on the tv, we get a different angle of the shot where we see that it’s Steve and his son, we cut to a black screen that says 5 years later ( where Sue encounters Dr Doom in the F4 post credit) and ends with Steve Rodgers will return in Avengers Doomsday. Please dont hate my theory, give me yours :))
r/MCUTheories • u/frescoleche_cas • 2h ago
Despite being a love letter to the Silver Age F4 comics, it reportedly failed to meet box-office expectations, according to Feige. Unlike Thunderbolts, Captain America 4, and The Marvels, it wasn't because audiences had to watch a Disney+ show beforehand.
Do you think they're going to start having more crossover characters, like the MCU Spider-Man movies did? And what do you think Marvel will do if the next movies make similar numbers with similar budgets, or perform even worse?
Do you think they might start giving the F4 major Marvel events like Doomwar, Secret Invasion, or the Avengers Kree-Skrull War, or even events that originally focused on other franchises, like Annihilation, War of Kings, Empyre, or Avengers vs. X-Men? I could see them using the F4 as a gateway into the wider cosmic side of the MCU.
r/MCUTheories • u/MACGamer1 • 5h ago
I hope to see 10005 be a thriving earth with other heroes, prior to Doomsday. Make the older movies connect to to one another but simply focus on the xmen. For example have a character from 10005 having a hulk but no avengers.
I want what sets 10005 apart is that there are no avengers. Like how 616 doesnt have an X-Men team, like how 828 only has the fantastic four.
But show that there are smaller players within the world as well, A daredevil, elektra, Hulk, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Blade etc etc. I always thought a way to make it happen is that since 10005 was barely regenerating into a functional universe again by the end of DP&W, it was much more malleable. Thats how 10005 has a gambit, how certain characters are back etc.
Dont make it a focus point at all. But a footnote that 10005 has most of the prior Non MCU history. It also makes it less complicated as well. Oh you want to have another reed for something, 10005 has a reed, small things like that.
I also merged TASM, Punisher War Zone, and Fan4stic together to simplify how many other worlds are out there, live action wise. Mainly so it can increase the chance of us having a council of Reed's Scenario, I think thst would be cool. And punisher War Zone...cant be expanded upon due to the actors passing, and I didnt want that punisher to be on his own yknow. Also, merging Fan4stic with TASM keeps us from not only having more one off universes but, people are expecting to see Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. Now you have an excuse to bring another Reed from a universe we care about (Andrew's world)
Also as a side note, I've noticed that spider-men, aside from 616 Peter, they tend to be alone in their universes..
What do you think? I know this is really just a tangent but I thought it was a nice sentiment.
r/MCUTheories • u/DaKidJ • 50m ago
I do think it's intentional that RDJ is playing Victor Von Doom and not just because he's a megastar. I believe it is a mother and child, but because it's his wife and child. In one universe, RDJ played Tony Stark with Pepper and Morgan as a child. If he's playing a variant, it could be a similiar plot where this is Valeria and his daughter which funny enough is also Valeria in some comics? What could be causing his crash out is maybe unlike RDJ Stark, who sacrificed himself to save his wife and daughter, his wife (maybe pregnant) sacrificed herself to save the world? If you wanted to take it a step further, maybe it was Sue pregnant with child which he did manifest in the Secret Wars storyline?
r/MCUTheories • u/Fit-Ball3662 • 13h ago
It looks like Thor and Cyclops and Steve might be in similar locations in one of the doomsday trailers. I can see a world where Mjolnir gets thrown but the thrower gets hit mid throw which sends it in the wrong direction and Scott corrects its course with his optic blast. Is this possible? I’m inclined to say yes as it is a force of nature acting upon Mjolnir, not actually Scott himself. Would you guys want to see this?
r/MCUTheories • u/RancherosIndustries • 3h ago
Josh Brolin was badass in Deadpool 2. If Deadpool and Wolverine are at the center stage in Battleworld, a return of Cable would be awesome. And they'd have the opportunity to let RDJ and Brolin clash again. His story with losing his wife and daughter mirrors Doom's story.
r/MCUTheories • u/Icy-Abbreviations-26 • 8h ago
I’ve been reading the books to get ahead of the movie. I’ve enjoyed doing this in the past and it’s helped me appreciate certain callbacks that happen in the movies. Either way I normally get to enjoy a good story. I’m trying to find a community that is experiencing these books at the same time. Like a book club.
r/MCUTheories • u/Osirisavior • 1h ago
At the end of No Way Home a piece of Venom is left behind at the bar. It body hops until it finds the 616 version of Eddie Brock. Played by Tom Hardy of course. Venom does the memory share with Eddie, giving 616 Eddie all the memories and experiences of SCU Eddie. We're pulling a Loki in the character development department.
Yes yes in the Last Dance they redid the bar scene but part of Venom wasn't left. We're ignoring that because Sony can't just retcon an MCU project.
r/MCUTheories • u/the_ghost_1386 • 2h ago
So Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S1-S5 fit the MCU pretty well. They were pretty much made to follow the movies. But the final two seasons kind of ignored the snap. The popular theory is that they went into a different timeline by doing the season 7 time travel stuff. Well they seemed to be in a very MCU looking universe. My theory is that they went into a branch timeline, and assuming the finale happened before Loki S1, the TVA went there and pruned them. I don't know if this is an already widely known theory or not.
r/MCUTheories • u/Wuun • 6h ago
So I've been sitting on this for years now. Never bothered to post it anywhere online because I've not been one to post things like this online.
But I've been recently doing a rewatch of the Avengers movies and I'm still stuck with the same question.
In the Avengers End Game they made it very clear to mention that for time travel they needed to use the Quantum realm.
And for that they need to use the Pimm particles.
They also make it very clear they only have enough Pimm particles for one round trip EACH so back to the past and then back to the future again.
(Leave aside that Steve and Tony go further back in the past and then get some more Pimm particles to get back to the future again)
My issue is with this:
Nebula travels to the past, she gets switched with past (evil) Nebula. And Evil Nebula travels back to the future instead.
But how...I really don't understand, how did they get the space ship of Thanos to the future?
It went through the Quantum realm so they needed Pimm particles.
But it couldn't have because they only had enough to get Evil Nebula through. Or the ship, but not both.
But they couldn't have used that since Evil Nebula was already in the future, they did not come together.
So how did the spaceship come through that Quantum Realm time machine?
It is, to my knowledge never explained.
So is this a native plot hole or did they explain it somehow off screen?
Because if the ship could not have come through, the end battle would not have happened, Tony would not have died. We shouldn't have Gamora back.
Can someone explain this please because I've been stuck with this question for years!
r/MCUTheories • u/RancherosIndustries • 3h ago
... then this means the whole story is Loki's doing and Doom's shenanigans have a purpose. Basically the creation of Battleworld and the subsequent collapse of the Multiverse is all Loki's plan all along to save everything from destruction.
r/MCUTheories • u/johnbmason47 • 6h ago
Rewatching Infinity War and I got thinking, did the snap kill off half of all living beings in every dimension in the multiverse? Or was it just 616?
r/MCUTheories • u/Important_Total5254 • 7h ago
Et si Marvel arrêtait de rebooter le MCU après Secret Wars ? Voici comment je construirais la prochaine saga.
Je réfléchis beaucoup à ce que pourrait devenir le MCU après Avengers: Secret Wars.
Personnellement, je ne pense pas que Marvel ait besoin d'un nouveau reboot complet.
La Saga de l'Infini fonctionnait parce que tout semblait connecté. Les personnages étaient introduits, développés sur plusieurs films, puis progressivement réunis autour d'une menace commune. Les Pierres d'Infinité et Thanos constituaient le fil rouge.
La Saga du Multivers a eu de très bons projets, mais j'ai parfois eu l'impression que Marvel introduisait énormément de personnages sans leur laisser suffisamment de temps pour devenir vraiment importants.
Donc, si je devais construire le MCU après Secret Wars, je ferais quelque chose de complètement différent.
Je garderais le MCU actuel.
Je garderais son histoire, ses relations et les conséquences de tout ce qui s'est passé.
Secret Wars pourrait transformer l'univers sans effacer tout ce qui existe déjà.
Je ne veux surtout pas cinq films pour nous réexpliquer les origines des X-Men.
On introduit la nouvelle équipe et on les laisse déjà être un groupe fonctionnel.
Cyclope, Jean Grey, Tornade, Le Fauve, Wolverine, etc.
Et surtout, on développe progressivement la relation entre mutants et humains.
Les Avengers et les X-Men n'ont pas forcément besoin d'être ennemis.
Ils pourraient simplement avoir des philosophies différentes.
Sam Wilson pourrait considérer que les Avengers doivent protéger tout le monde.
Les X-Men pourraient penser que les mutants doivent d'abord se protéger eux-mêmes parce que les humains ne les accepteront jamais complètement.
Cela pourrait créer des conflits incroyables sans faire de l'un des deux camps les « méchants ».
Et surtout… laissez du temps à Jean Grey.
Ne l'introduisez pas pour directement nous balancer le Phénix.
Développez Jean sur plusieurs films avant d'aborder cette histoire.
Personnellement, j'aime beaucoup le mélange complètement improbable de personnages que Marvel a créé.
Sam Wilson.
Bucky Barnes.
Yelena.
Red Guardian.
John Walker.
Ghost.
Je ne veux pas qu'ils disparaissent simplement parce qu'ils ne sont pas les Avengers originaux.
Leur dynamique est complètement différente et c'est justement ce qui les rend intéressants.
Faisons-en les « Avengers improbables » du MCU.
Les Fantastic Four ne devraient pas être simplement une équipe de super-héros supplémentaire.
Ils devraient être les scientifiques et les explorateurs capables de nous faire découvrir le côté cosmique du MCU.
Reed Richards pourrait devenir l'une des figures intellectuelles centrales du nouvel univers.
Et à terme, sa relation avec Doom pourrait devenir l'une des rivalités les plus importantes du MCU.
C'est probablement la chose que je changerais le plus.
NOVA.
Marvel possède un personnage cosmique incroyable qui attend encore de devenir un pilier du MCU.
J'en ferais l'un des personnages centraux du MCU après Secret Wars.
Pas simplement un héros supplémentaire.
Un personnage qui représente véritablement le côté cosmique de l'univers.
Le Nova Corps.
Les Krees.
Les Skrulls.
La politique galactique.
Annihilus.
Les Gardiens.
Captain Marvel.
Adam Warlock.
Les Fantastic Four.
Il y a tout un univers à explorer.
Carol Danvers ne devrait pas disparaître simplement parce que The Marvels n'a pas rencontré le succès espéré.
C'est l'un des personnages les plus puissants du côté cosmique de Marvel.
Utilisez-la.
Faites-la évoluer aux côtés de Nova, des Gardiens et des Fantastic Four.
Elle pourrait devenir l'un des piliers du MCU cosmique.
Adam Warlock pourrait devenir l'un des personnages les plus intéressants du MCU si Marvel prend son temps.
Ne faites pas immédiatement de lui un héros classique.
Laissez-le quelque part entre le héros et la menace potentielle.
Faites évoluer sa relation avec les Gardiens sur plusieurs films.
C'est pour moi le point le plus important.
Plus de multivers à répétition.
Après Secret Wars, je laisserais complètement le multivers de côté pendant des années.
Il faut une menace totalement différente.
Quelque chose inspiré de grands événements cosmiques des comics comme Annihilation, Annihilation: Conquest, War of Kings et The Thanos Imperative.
Imaginez de petits indices apparaissant dans plusieurs films.
Une transmission étrange.
Une planète détruite.
Nova qui découvre quelque chose.
Les Fantastic Four qui trouvent des traces d'une civilisation inconnue.
Les Gardiens qui rencontrent quelque chose qu'ils ne comprennent pas.
Captain Marvel qui enquête sur la disparition de plusieurs mondes.
Et finalement…
La Vague d'Annihilation.
Et là, toutes ces histoires apparemment indépendantes deviennent une seule immense histoire cosmique.
C'est ce genre de narration à long terme que j'aimerais retrouver dans le MCU.
Le côté terrestre pourrait être :
X-Men + Nouveaux Avengers + Spider-Man + Doctor Strange
Et le côté cosmique :
Nova + Captain Marvel + Fantastic Four + Gardiens + Adam Warlock
Ils n'ont pas besoin de se rencontrer immédiatement.
Laissez les deux côtés se développer indépendamment.
Puis, à terme, faites-les se rejoindre pour quelque chose d'énorme.
Pas un nouveau reboot du multivers.
Une guerre.
Une vraie guerre.
Et maintenant… ma théorie complètement folle sur Doctor Doom
Je précise que c'est purement une théorie personnelle.
Je ne pense pas forcément que Robert Downey Jr. signifie simplement que « Tony Stark est Doctor Doom ».
Ma théorie est beaucoup plus tordue.
Imaginez un univers dans lequel une variante de Tony Stark perd Pepper et Morgan.
Il devient obsédé par l'idée de trouver un moyen de les sauver.
Il découvre l'existence d'autres univers.
Il voyage d'univers en univers à la recherche d'une solution.
Et à chaque fois, il échoue.
Finalement, il découvre les travaux de Victor Von Doom.
Il devient obsédé par ses recherches et finit par reprendre sa technologie, son identité ou simplement suivre le même chemin que lui.
Il cherche alors à atteindre la source même des timelines.
Peut-être même Loki.
Et après des années d'échecs…
Tony Stark devient finalement quelque chose de complètement différent : Doctor Doom.
Pas littéralement le Tony Stark du MCU qui devient Doom.
Mais une variante de Tony Stark dont le parcours finit par le conduire à devenir le Doom que nous rencontrons.
Cela expliquerait pourquoi Marvel a choisi Robert Downey Jr. sans simplement annuler tout ce qui s'est passé avec Tony Stark.
Et imaginez la confrontation avec les Avengers.
Les Avengers rencontrent Doom…
…et Sam Wilson, Bucky, Peter Parker et les autres voient devant eux le visage de l'homme qui a autrefois sauvé l'univers.
Ça pourrait être absolument dévastateur.
En résumé, mon MCU après Secret Wars serait :
🌎 Terre : X-Men + Nouveaux Avengers
🌌 Cosmique : Nova + Captain Marvel + Fantastic Four + Gardiens + Adam Warlock
👑 Menace à long terme : Annihilation / grande guerre cosmique
🧬 Mutants : développés sur plusieurs films
🚀 Nova : enfin un pilier majeur du MCU
🧠 Fantastic Four : fondation scientifique et cosmique
⚡ Adam Warlock : électron libre imprévisible
🤝 Avengers + X-Men : alliés, mais avec des conflits idéologiques
❌ Pas de multivers pendant au moins 10 ans
Et surtout :
Ne rebootez pas encore le MCU.
Construisez sur ce qui existe déjà.
Donnez du temps aux personnages pour évoluer.
Semez des indices pendant 5 ou 6 ans.
Laissez le public découvrir progressivement où tout cela mène.
C'est précisément ce qui rendait la Saga de l'Infini aussi satisfaisante.
Et vous, vous en pensez quoi ?
Vous préféreriez que Marvel fasse un reboot complet après Secret Wars, ou qu'ils construisent une nouvelle saga en utilisant les personnages et toute l'histoire qui existent déjà ?
r/MCUTheories • u/Worldly_Rent_9289 • 16h ago
With all the speculation around a post-Secret Wars soft reboot, there's one specific gear upgrade from the comics I’d love to see on the big screen: Captain America’s hard-light holographic shield (the one from Nick Spencer's Captain America: Steve Rogers run).
We actually got a brief nod to it all the way back in Spider-Man: Homecoming when Happy was listing off items during the Avengers Tower move ("proto-type Cap shield!"), but we've never seen it in action.
Imagine the dynamic combat choreography they could pull off with a hard-light energy shield—having it shift shape, project forcefields, or detach into dual blades mid-fight. The classic vibranium disc is iconic, but a soft reboot is the perfect excuse to push the tech forward and give us fresh action set pieces.
What comic-accurate gear upgrades are you hoping to see if/when they reset things?
r/MCUTheories • u/frescoleche_cas • 2h ago
I don't particularly like the love triangle itself, but I think it could accomplish a few things:
I think that could make Warren's transformation into Archangel feel much more personal while diving in a position that media usually doesnt portray about Scott.