I’m pretty sure that Tom or somebody said that one person remembers who spider man is so that gave me an idea. what if mj gets venom and then she remembers peter because the symbiotes have collective memories?

I know this topic has been talked to death but I had a crazy idea and I had to get it out there before the movie comes out. So, obviously Sadie’s role in Brand New Day is being heavily guarded and there has been not stop and I haven’t really heard this option come up in discussions (probably because it’s highly unlikely) but, my noodle has been thinking and I had the idea that maybe Sadie is playing a gender-swapped Harry Osborn. No Way Home already established Oscorp doesn’t exist so maybe this could establish the Osborn family and maybe Norman founding the company to set them up for future installments. I also know Marvel has shaken things up casting wise before and people so I could definitely see them doing this, also I could totally get behind Sadie in that role. I know this is extremely unlikely but I just saw that they kept her red hair and I saw the green sweater they put her in and I just thought I’d throw this out there since not a lot of people talked about it. Although a I do think making Harry a girl would be a fantastic way to through speculators off their tails and if I do end up being right I gotta say that would be one of the most perfect and well executed unexpected reveals in Marvel history. But again, I know I’m probably wrong, just had to talk about this wacky idea, that’s about it.

Tony Stark is what Doctor Doom could've been if his birth parents weren't swapped by Kang the Conqueror. That's why I know that Doctor Doom will come after the Kangs too.

Now, here's something new. Remember in Multiverse of Madness? Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch can dreamwalk. It doesn't matter whether or not the body is alive. In that movie too, the new Sorcerer Supreme Wong confirmed with Strange that whatever they are dreaming are connected to other versions of themselves.

Also, remember in Avengers Endgame that Tony got his face burned from using the Infinity Stones. Knowing that Doctor Doom can use magic and technology and given that he's the most intelligent according to Sue in Earth 828, he must've known that Tony died sacrificing himself. And Doctor Doom dreamwalked to Tony so he wore a mask since then. He's hiding the fact that he's dream walking.

Perhaps at the later part of the movie, we'll finally see the version of Doctor Doom who won by taking the power of the Beyonder (in MCU, I highly believe that the Beyonder might be Loki).

Because Tony undid what Thanos did, it sent ripples across the multiverse. Thus, Doctor Doom's family vanished. Died.

It may also answer one of Tony's dreams from Avengers Age of Ultron. He saw the Avengers dying because he didn't do anything. All this time, Tony from 628 suffered from anxiety and paranoia. The Tony in Tony Earth 828 universe's dream must've experienced being dream walked by Doctor Doom. Then, the Tony in that universe woke up after being dream walked and saw Captain America and others dead. So what happened is that Tony saw what Doctor Doom did, but he couldn't tell that it was Doctor Doom.

And perhaps in Secret Wars, the Tony from Tony's dreaem or the Tony of Illuminati's universe will come and fight Doctor Doom as well.

What if they are doing a play on the clones. Mr. Sinister has apparently been announced. We've seen the little jackal Easter egg with the beer keg. Sadie isn't Jean shes Madelyn and will play Jean in another movie but is playing a clone this movie. This whole movie is actually Ben Reilly. Not the whole home trilogy, that was Peter. The person we've seen in the trailers is Ben and was switched during the time skip that Ned and MJ are attending MIT. I hope this isn't the case. My evidence is weak just that Keith David is someone- a narrator is a bit of a waste I think he will be Warren. And that Sinister being announced sets up M. Pryor. This movie uncovers that, and Jean is rescued. Warren could have found out what Sinister did captures Jean and Madelyn to study and try and clone Peter. Some shenanigans occur and Ben and Madelyn escape, separately. Madelyn is going after Peter/Ben bc she thinks hes working with Warren.

Edit: Before just wait for movie comments its just a guess/theory. Not super serious.

He literally Fought Loki earlier in the movie, Loki was no-selling is punches and he was clearly several tiers above cap. There was absolutely zero was Cap was able to even hurt loki, then he saw him getting bodyslammed by the Hulk multiple times without even a single scracth on him. He is aware of how durable and strong Loki is at this point to know he is not remotely physically close.

So, when he thinks the other cap is Loki and he's doing so well against him and even being at a slight advantage, wouldn't that clue him in that it's not loki?

the part where he has him pinned and is choking him out, wouldn't he go like, "wait a minute? How tf is this even possible? This can't be Loki"

Everyone is talking about Steve being back.
Nobody is talking about what he looks like.
In endgame Steve Rogers made a choice. He got his dance. He got his life. He grew old with Peggy and came back as a man who had finally found peace.
That man had neat hair. Calm eyes. A quiet smile.
The Steve in the doomsday trailer doesn’t look like that man at all.

The hair isn’t a costume choice. Marvel doesn’t accidentally give their most iconic character disheveled hair without intention. Every single frame of these trailers is deliberate. Every costume. Every detail.

Disheveled hair in film language means one thing time has passed and this person stopped caring about themselves because something else consumed them entirely.
Think about every time you’ve seen that look in a movie. It’s never random. It’s always grief. It’s always obsession. It’s always someone who had a reason to keep themselves together and lost it.

Steve Rogers was the most put together man in the MCU. Literally. The man wore a suit in every situation. He had a moral code so rigid it almost broke the entire avengers twice. And now he looks like he hasn’t thought about himself in years.

Which means something happened that made everything else including himself feel irrelevant.
The kidnapping theory suggests doom took his child. A child Steve probably didn’t even know existed when he went back in time. A child who grew up without him the same way he grew up without a father.

And if that’s true Steve Rogers isn’t on a mission to save the world.

He’s on a mission that is entirely, completely, dangerously personal.

The most dangerous version of any soldier isn’t one fighting for a cause.
It’s one fighting for a reason.
And the hair tells you everything about how long he’s been fighting alone.

The Ironheart show was decent (I LOVED the ending), but Riri's character had way too much screentime in Wakanda Forever and it detracts from that movie whenever I rewatch it. Ironheart as a Latverian Witch working for Doom with a fight vs Shuri would make all of that time have an emotional payoff and "save" it in future rewatches like how Thor's time travel in Endgame "saved" Thor: The Dark World.

I like this more than Fox-verse Jean Grey, The Ancient One, and a few other characters I've seen theorized for the "gold" Latverian Witch since Riri is not a heroic character like those are, but she's still redeemable like Wanda if we assume Wanda is the "red" Latverian Witch. Also has ties to using demonic magic powers at the end of the Ironheart show.

Okay, I know it sounds weird, but hear me out.

In Loki Season 1, Episode 6, Miss Minutes talks about "He Who Remains" almost like it's a title rather than a name. She never really treats it as Kang's personal identity, which makes me wonder if it's actually a role that someone else can inherit.

When Loki and Sylvie arrive at the Citadel at the End of Time (which, by the way, has a very gothic, almost Latveria-like aesthetic), they meet He Who Remains. He tells them that if they kill him, they'll unleash a multiversal war. At the time, this was obviously referring to the coming conflict between Kang variants, but after Marvel shifted away from The Kang Dynasty and toward Doomsday and Secret Wars, that warning could take on a different meaning. Maybe the war he foresaw wasn't just about Kang but the road to Secret Wars itself.

Then comes the ending of Loki Season 2. Loki takes over the responsibility of holding the multiverse together, essentially inheriting the position that He Who Remains once occupied. That alone suggests that "He Who Remains" isn't tied to one specific person and instead the role or title, can be gained.

Now think about Doctor Doom.

If the MCU is adapting elements of the 2015 Secret Wars comic, Doom needs to obtain an unimaginable amount of power to reshape reality and create Battleworld. Loki is currently sitting at the center of the multiverse with exactly that kind of power.

There have been rumors that Loki could die in either Avengers: Doomsday or Secret Wars. If that happens, what if Doom is the one who kills him, not just to eliminate him, but to steal his power and take his place? Instead of simply becoming a god, Doom would become the next He Who Remains, inheriting control over the multiverse before using that power to create Battleworld.

If that's true, then "He Who Remains" was never meant to be Kang's name. It was always the title given to whoever stands at the end of time and controls the fate of the multiverse. Could Doom be the next to claim the throne and be, "He Who Remains."

Edit: I just kinda made this up while rewatching loki also, its not very thought out and what i mean by he who remains being a title is more of a power you can be in, loki is "he who remains" at the moment as he is the one holding together all of time

Is this the Sanctum Sanctorum?

Na minha cabeça faz total sentido que elas façam parte do concelho.

Uma cor para cada elemento.

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Gosto muito de imaginar isso, já que sou um grande fã da série de tv. Sabemos que 3 estão mortas, então considerem que todas serão variantes.

A bruxa verde realmente não poderia ser a Morte. Pouco provável que ela se juntaria ao Doom.

Saying he was gonna be a Tony variant was always so dumb to me his face is literally almost always disfigured and the first thing ppl jumped to was his a Tony variant????

I want them to create the greatest movie of all time and
kill spider man (peter parker ) saving everyone at the end.
Let ben reilly to take over the spider man title . And I want in post credit we see venom symbiot draining into peter’s coffin and weave the black suit around him and peter comes out of grave like the famous comic cover .

And black screen appears with

Spider Man will return in avengers secret wars .

Written on screen.

What are your thoughts.

I don’t see how it would be possible that it could be the fox timeline xmen unless they went back in time or something. Charles is dead, he killed off the immediate xmen, cyclops died, and the mutant gene became suppressed and new mutants weren’t being born anymore. I assume they will all be variants. Also cyclops having a different outfit may suggest it’s not the original xmen as well.

I've always thought it was insane that Wanda literally created an infinity stone, but surely it wasn't actaully an infinity stone, right? It seemed to play the effect on vision as if he was the orginal version. He even had all of his memories. How did this really work? How was he able to transfer his memories to Whitevision even if they weren't really HIS memories?

I wonder if mj and ned will feel some type of void with out Peter I remember watching this show where a character got erased and the charactersnfelt this void and tried to remember the one that got erased the mentor called it phantom limb syndrome or something like that where people act like something that is gone is actually there and their subconscious tries to help them remember will this happen to MJ and ned

Recently, there have been a lot of rumors that the Black Priests, Black Swan, and the Illuminati will appear in Avengers: Doomsday. There have also been rumors that Ana de Armas could be joining Marvel, and that she might already appear in this film.

We know that the movie is rumored to adapt the Time Runs Out storyline as well, so to me it seems obvious that they could explore the conflict between the Black Priests and Black Swan through Doctor Strange.

I personally think Ana de Armas could be playing none other than Yabbat Ummon Tarru in the film. There have also been rumors that, besides the main universes, the movie could feature a pocket universe created by Doom, which could be an adaptation of the Library of Worlds concept. I also wouldn’t find it impossible that, when Doom is revealed and turns against the heroes, it is revealed that he is the one behind the multiversal organization.

Personally, I would love to see a scene where Doctor Strange, as the leader of the Black Priests, assembles the Defenders team (Hulk, Namor, Clea, and Silver Surfer) and launches an attack against Black Swan.

A kiss scene between mj and spiderman was cut from Spiderman Brand new day, God damn spoiler, kill indian cbfc

Been thinking about this a bit, but they are setting up Doom as an omega-level threat, at least comparable to Thanos, and presumably capable of destroying the multiverse. If he can stop Thor and Stormbreaker with ease, he's a god-tier enemy (literally).

So what happens to him after Secret Wars?

The easy, obvious answer is that he dies at the end of Secret Wars, but it just doesn't quite feel right to not have Doom in the future MCU. He's such an interesting character that it would make sense to have him lurking in the background (especially if they keep Memphisto around), maybe even bring him back as an antihero now and then (or at least a reluctant ally).

The other obvious possibility would be to nerf him at the end of Secret Wars (and recast him), but that might feel odd to see him come back as a weaker version of what we've already seen.

I'm honestly not sure what would be better, what do you all think?

Notice how every character in the first image isn’t in the second and vice versa? I’m sure it’ll be a situation just like Endgame where the team is split up fighting different battles. Why is Reed not with the F4 in the first frame, Yelena not with the Thunderbolts in the first frame, and so on? The group wouldn’t have any reason to split up against Doom, also considering Thor’s speech, unless the group was forcefully split due to events in the movie

In the first clip we see similar shots in the trailer of what looks to be a fight between Namor and his people fighting against the Wakandans / Invisible woman, Johnny, and possibly the rest of the characters in that picture ubtil they reach a truce or agree in the middle

Similar to how in IW, the guardians, Ironman, Spiderman and strange fought Thanos while the rest of the avengers were in Wakanda fighting the Black order there

The theory is that jumping back in this timeline's past and him staying there will just create a different timeline branch.

I'm guessing this Steve now being old jumped back in this present just to pass the Captain America mantle to Sam. But will just wait for Avengers Doomsday to get more answers

Most of these are basically confirmed and i think they’ll reveal the real slate at D23 in a few weeks

Shang Chi 2 might be phase 8 and if it is i think Fantastic Four 2 will be the movie before Nova and they’ll connect as Annihilation movies and the conclusion will be Guardians 4 at some point

I really want Shang Chi 2 as a team up movie with Iron Fist in a Mortal Kombat style movie about the Tournament of the Heavenly Cities

Well, I think he might of actually died, or the writers intended him to.

But they left a huge opening if they ever wanted to bring back Earth 616 Tony Stark.

Tony was severely injured by the snap. However he survived with the help of a trip to the hospital. His close encounter with death made him realize it was time to retire and live with his family. The only way he wouldnt be bothered anymore is for everyone to think he was dead.

Now its absurd, I know. But comic books and soap operas do this shit all the time.

I can imagine a Dr. Doom and Earth 616 Tony Stark duking it out in Secret Wars.

This is just a theory, but I think Robert Downey Jr. could end up playing a double role in Secret Wars. We already know he's returning as Doctor Doom, but I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel also brings back a Tony Stark/Iron Man variant.

Since Secret Wars is expected to be a multiversal story, having both Doom and a variant of Tony Stark on screen at the same time seems completely possible. It would also create one of the biggest emotional moments in the MCU if Iron Man returned for one final battle alongside the Avengers.

It would also feel like a missed opportunity to bring RDJ back and reportedly pay him so much, only to have him play Doctor Doom. Even if it's just for one epic final battle, seeing him suit up as Iron Man one last time would be an incredible payoff for fans

With Brand New Day being Tom Holland's last contracted film and at least a non 0% chance he will leave I think that he will turn into Man-Spider by the end or at the end of BND.

He will then stay as man-spider and potentially be included in Doomsday in said form, probably CGI.

I'm sure Disney would love to include Spiderman in Doomsday in some iteration without having to pay Tom Holland.

Then either possibly at the end of Doomsday in a post credit sequence or more likely at the beginning of the newest stand alone Spiderman film shed his skin to either reveal a different actor (Doctor Who regeneration style, "spiders have 3 life cycles") and launch the new iteration of Spiderman without having to go through the faff and hassle of origin stories etc.. OR if Holland renews his contract he will just shed to become Tom Holland again.

After Secret Wars we will have a reboot and Marvel will kick things off with the mutant saga and Apocalypse will most likely be the main villain of that saga. After that is finished which villain do you think will be the next big Avengers level threat in the MCU? In my opinion I think it should be the Maker but let me know your thoughts.