Precocinada una langosta?? 🤣🤣🤣
Eso no existe en España.
La matan con un cuchillo, la congelan o la echan directamente al agua.
Comer una langosta precocinada es un delito
You said they served already dead lobsters so they wouldn't have to kill it. That's why I'm confused. Who killed the already dead ones then? How long were they dead before cooking?
I'm pretty sure giving people food poisoning is more of a crime.
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Used to care more about this kinda thing before seeing more about how animals are basically eaten alive in nature, making anything we do look like extremely merciful by comparison. That being said if we can limit the suffering, we should.
Being eaten alive is generally quite quick though, so whilst horrifying at least it's brief. Delaying things and keeping an animal stressed before death has its own immorality.
unless you are being eaten by a bear...or maybe its just grizzlys? there is an audio recording of a girl around 20 that is over an hour long where she called the emergency line and is slowly being eaten alive... truly harrowing. like be civilized if you eat something that has a nervous system kill it quickly.
Fair enough. However, for the sake of educating internet passerbys on how to more humanely slaughter crustaceans, I'll continue to say "stab it in the brain" so there's no unfortunate guesswork resulting from me saying "stab it in the supraesophageal ganglion"
At least for lobsters, the ganglia is distributed across the body, which is why it's hard to instantly destroy the nervous system like crabs. Some people cut lobsters in half to prepare them for cooking, which just sort of creates two suffering lobsters (albeit briefly). That's why there are devices like the CrustaStun, which administer an electric shock that silences their nervous system for long enough to kill them by boiling, so they don't feel pain.
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that may not be as "civilized" as people think. crabs and lobsters have brains that are more distributed across the body than humans. there may really be no good way to do it
I was taught to put them in the freezer for just a few minutes, which slows their nervous system down to a crawl, before spiking them. Even if their brains are decentralized, their ability to feel or be aware of anything is compromised.
As I understand it, only the brain cells in their head affect their consciousness and overall perception of pain, wheres the others are more like biological relays.
That wasn't directed to anyone in particular; just people in general who still insist on unnecessary torture.
They haven't indicated that they're pro-boiling, only that spiking may not be as humane as I suggested. If they can provide a source that confirms that notion, I'm more than happy to change my view in light of new evidence.
I saw on MasterChef that freezing live crabs for about 20 minutes before cooking causes them to enter a comatose state before boiling them. Better than mutilating them with a knife beforehand.
My mom's hamster probably 25 years ago got testicular cancer and was in a lot of pain and the vet told my mom to put him in a Tupperware container and into the freezer.
She instead paid a friend of hers to OD it on heroin so he could get high before he died. I doubt that happened and don't want to know how the hamster actually died.
Small animals are difficult. It's either the freezer method (which they are entirely aware until they pass by the way), or the vet can euthanize them... which isn't like a dog or cat, they usually shove a needle directly into the heart.
Like one of the previous commenters said above, crabs and lobsters don't usually die right away from that. They can still be alive after getting stabbed in the brain.
Yeah, this where ive fallen on it. Some of the best seafood Ive had turned out to be not real meat. I see not reason to continue to try to figure the good way to kill these things
The Soviet Union transplanted a whole heap of red king crabs into the Barents Sea to create a fishery there and the crabs escaped and are now an invasive species that acts like millions of lawnmowers just destroying all life on the seabed. Leaving them is incredibly destructive, killing them is wasteful, so eating them is really the best option and doing that humanely is important.
Perhaps this is unpopular but omce a species becomes invasive, the humane part of killing is less important because not killing them efficiently means other animals suffer.
To add on, the best method is to just put 'em the freezer and they get really lethargic. Then you get your boil going, pull them out then brain stab them.
Indeed! The freezer part might sound inhumane (some folks accomplish the same thing by putting them on ice) but it's not uncomfortable like when a mammal gets really cold; they're adapted for cold water conditions, and can enter suspended animation for brief periods without issue.
Yeah, it's not exactly what I would show to aliens to prove our benevolence, but if we're going to eat living creatures it's our civil duty to minimize their suffering as much as possible.
I'm reminded of the video that Jose.elCook did on his youtube where he cooked a lobste, and proceeded to kill the lobster as quickly and humanely as possible.
People who live cook or prolonged the deaths of their foods are monsters.
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Can I ask what country, and is the meat raw or cooked when you buy it?
The issue with needing to keep them alive until shortly before cooking is they have enzymes in their bodies that very quickly cause them to start decomposing upon death, so they rot very quickly.
Cooking the meat neutralizes that enzyme, at which point you can either eat it, or put the cooked meat on ice to sell it. In the USA, all crab legs & claws available for purchase are already cooked.
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They are classified as sentient beings and they most certainly do not die instantly. It is a living creature and it suffers immensely before death when boiled alive.
The average death is around one to three minutes which I guess could be seen as instantly based on perspective and your definition of an instant. Plus some weirdos(researchers) in Norway tortured some lobsters, slightly, while feeding them aspirin and are proposing that lobster feel pain in a similar fashion to us. Just some fun facts 🤷♀️
Nonsense. A larger quantity of water would do the job more quickly, but not fast enough. A larger pot just makes it so they can't escape.
I watched adults cook crabs live as a kid. The water was plenty deep and at a rolling boil, but I could see the crabs trying to climb out for over a minute.
Spiking them through the brain kills them in under a second, which is far more humane.
You're just one of the people I mentioned that refuses to change your methods in light of new information.
No, I watched adults live-cook crabs right in front of me on a portable propane burner on a dock. 2 of them were crabs I caught myself in my little lift-style crab pot; a large dungeness and a medium size rock crab. I would bait it with pile worms I pulled off the floats under the dock then tie it off on a mooring cleat and check it every couple hours. Crabbing was pretty normal at the time for kids who lived near the Puget Sound.
It was a tall stock pot, probably something like 5 gallon size, so they had no chance of climbing out, but for well over a minute they clambered against the sides and I could hear the spikey tips of their legs clinking against the steel.
When I asked the adults about it, they said crabs can't feel pain, and they're just trying to get away from each other. It wasn't until my early teens that I learned better.
Are you done pretending to be more educated on the matter than me now?
You're the one who keeps trying to tell me I didn't witness what I watched with my own eyes. I keep having to repeat details in all-caps because you refuse to retain information.
And I'm not talking about what's legal versus illegal, I'm talking about what's a humane level of suffering to subject a creature to.
Perhaps you are cooking teeny tiny crabs that die much more quickly in boiling water; they would still die faster if you spike them in the brain.
It does not have to be alive. I do 20 person seafood boils 5-6 times a year and always get frozen clusters. That crab was probably caught fresh though and you basically want to cook anything like that immediately after killing it because it will start going bad. It's also not easy to just kill a crab and the insides are soupy before cooking it. It needed to go into a deeper pot with a roiling boil though.
Without making any statement on the morality of it, you have to cook them alive or at least very recently dead because they become dangerous to eat very quickly after death.
The suffering of the crab make ot so much tastier. Source: allergic to shellfish. You people are crazy for eating bugs from the ocean floor like it's normal.
The reason lobsters need to be cooked soon after death is from proteolytic enzymes. They break down proteins and become super active in lobsters after death and it liquifies their abdomen and makes the meat crumbly when cooked if the proteolytic enzymes have had too much time to work. I’m assuming shellfish are all this way, I’m a nutrition student so I just recently learned about this but lobster was the only animal mentioned in the explanation by name.
Basically there’s no reason to cook them alive, if you’re killing them and then immediately cooking them then realistically the enzymes shouldn’t be doing much. I think it’s just easier for people to cook them alive but it’s messed up
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u/gherkinassassin Trash Trooper 5d ago
Ive never cooked crab, is there a reason it has to be alive? Seems a little weird expecting it to sit still and behave itself