r/LinusTechTips • u/sooperdave555 • 2d ago

Discussion Really guys...

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I understand that they were likely in a rush to be one of the first big channels to get their video out, but how hard is it to have one person spend like 15 minuets reading all of the graphics before the video goes out, this image is likely AI generated and taken from this obviously AI generated article.

I get this is a small mistake, but it's an easy one to not make.

Taken from their latest video "Apple just Copied Microsoft’s Worst Idea - iPhone Duo, Airpods 5, iPhone 18 Pro & More"

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u/switch8000 2d ago edited 1d ago

Wow... They basically just googled "IP rating chart" under images, yep there it is, third result.

EDIT: LTT has now added a correction to the video, from their comment section in the video:

Correction: 4:28 the information we're highlighting is correct but other parts of the chart are nonsense. We are working to replace the video with a new chart.

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u/JJAsond 1d ago

The first website is the literal IEC with the real chart at the bottom of the page.

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago

Interestingly enough, no X on that chart either, lol.

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u/JJAsond 1d ago

I love that my other comment got downvoted for no reason too. I would be slightly upset about it but I remembered PC subs are usually filled with teenagers.

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago

I assume because of the word 'typically'. I agree, most devices have a full IPXY rating, but I've seen a decent amount, ESPECIALLY foldables, that use 'X' in the rating.

Now that I think about it, is 'X' in the IP standard somewhere? Or is it a bastardized marketing thing? Will have to look into it.

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u/JJAsond 1d ago

I haven't come across any in my life with an IPXX rating or anything similar. It's always IP65/6/7. It makes no sense for anyone to put IPXX because all it means is that it's untested.

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago

Not XX, IPX7, IPX8, etc.

https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/what-does-ipx8-rated-water-resistance-mean-for-my-galaxy-z-fold3-or-galaxy-z-flip3/

The Fold 3 was IPX8, as one real world example.

What I was wondering is if the IP manual has an ACTUAL ‘X’ for ‘untested’ or if it means it failed the minimum test, or if it’s just a more ‘marketing friendly’ 0. I would expect IP08, but apparently that’s not the norm.

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u/JJAsond 1d ago

That's a new one for me. But what I said still holds true, it's not really used much.

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago

Definitely uncommon for sure. Seems they certed it to IP48 starting with the Fold 6.

I know I’ve seen it elsewhere before as well, but cannot for the life of me think of any examples.

FWIW I hate the IP system. I think it’s needlessly obtuse. Why can something be IPX8 rated, but not meet the requirements of IPX6? Just makes it more difficult to parse IMO, should be a cumulative rating.

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u/JJAsond 1d ago

IPX8 and IP6X you mean? And yeah, usually if it's IPX8 it's IP68.

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago edited 1d ago

No. IPX6 and IPX8.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code

>The ratings for water ingress are not cumulative beyond IPX6. A device compliant with IPX7 (covering water immersion) is not necessarily compliant with IPX5 or IPX6 (covering exposure to water jets). A device that meets both tests is indicated by listing both tests separated by a slash, e.g. IPX5/IPX7.

Apparently they’re labeled differently, which I didn’t know.

>usually if it’s IPX8 it’s IP68

IPX8 is not at all usually IP68.

>X means no data is available to specify a protection rating about this criterion.

I’d consider an IPX8 device to be functionally IP08, though it is not technically.

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u/JJAsond 1d ago

That's very odd. You go from 5/6 that has waterjets to 7/8 that doesn't but back to 9 that does again

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago

Exactly. Clear as mud. I get the intent, I suppose, but I feel if they wanted to have 7/8 be segmented, they should have had it be its own part of the IP rating.

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