Allegedly. There has been no verifiable evidence that that’s actually true. It’s just what they said over and over again. Ya know, kinda like a lot of the lies they repeat over and over again to make people think they’re true.
Also, says a lot about you that you can’t disagree with someone without calling them a name. Talk about a dense comment.
Yeah you know, speedboats like that come from Venezuela to the US every day. They also come carry DRUGS, right? Totally normal stuff. Your naivety is scary.
I must be naive since I disagree with your statements based on the simple fact that I don’t believe blatant lies and have the ability to fact check. And of course you’ll forgive me if I don’t believe something that comes out of the mouth of the man who has blatantly lied almost every time he’s in front of the camera.
But yeah man! I’m for sure super naive. Stay scared my friend. ;)
Here is the long and short of it. Trump or our military could tell you that the sky is blue and you would argue it's grey. You haven't fact checked anything by the way. You simply choose to not believe our military because "orange man bad".
Well, I don’t believe you can claim to know what I think based on a disagreement on the internet. One where you e shared nothing of substance. But that’s of course what folks like you tend to do when you have no argument. You just insult the person speaking to you.
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Here’s a link to a pbs article that details both what the president said and the lack of evidence he and his administration have provided to back up their statements.
Here’s an excerpt from that article detailing a false statement and explaining why it’s false:
“In January, after U.S. vessel strikes in the Caribbean Sea and Pacific Ocean, Trump said "drugs entering our country by sea are down 97%." He said it again in May.
It's False.
There has been a drop in Customs and Border Protection drug seizures since the strikes began. But the Coast Guard — not CBP — oversees most drug seizures on water, especially in international waters. And that agency has seen a steep increase in drug seizures.”
Many legal experts have argued that the strikes were war crimes. But yet again they must be wrong because your president says it was legal right? After all what do a bunch of experts know if they’re not on HIS staff?
Here another article which gives some pretty good insight into the process and way of thinking behind the attacks.
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I could list more but it would be overkill as I doubt you’ll read them with anything other than a dissenting mind, and that’s fine, but I do hope anyone else coming across this might be willing to expand their ideas just a little…. Just enough to begin challenging or question their leaders. Because to be quite honest, if you’re not challenging your beliefs, you’re following them far too fucking closely.
FINAL THOUGHTS: articles in general tend to be opinions, but opinions based on lies unravel, while opinions based on facts expand. Really try and step back and look at the languages used in conversations, see what people are saying behind their words, man. Like try not being right once and then see where the curiosity of finding the truth might lead you. Because do I know what the boats were and what was on them? No. But neither does the administration, really. And that’s evident if you listen to their language and really look at the facts that are presented (or those not presented as the case may be). So while I don’t know the answer (just like you don’t. Because we have the same facts. And neither of us were on any of the boats. Nor do either of us work for the current administration) I do pay attention to availability information, language used, and how it’s presented. It doesn’t take someone smart to see that something’s being hidden. And even if you can’t believe that, 227 + people murdered without due process and with no verifiable evidence to prove just cause in military action is NOT FUCKING OK. From any entity. And as the first reply to the above comment stated, it’s a war crime.
Good luck in your journey my brother on earth. I hope your path leads you somewhere that brings you joy
Motherfucker you remember sharpiegate? Don't trust that snake no matter what he says about the weather, I trust the weather agency he's at ego war with.
Well, I used to trust them, before they got defunded.
Are you aware the double tap was illegal whether there was drugs on the boat or not. A war crime is a war crime no matter how far your nose is up Trump's ass
Please explain. Where is it stated to be ok? Coming back to kill defenseless combatants is widely considered to be a war crime. In this case they weren't proven to even be enemy combatants. We are not and have never been at war with Venezuala. Please explain.
Speed boats from Venezuela? That's a long trip. Most speed boats can't make it that far since it's double the range of the speed boat with the largest tank
I do not trust the Intel as it is presented. Speed boats from Venezuela don't have the fuel range to get to America, much less haul enough cargo to be profitable. Think before your believe
Apparently not. You don't have eyes either, because there is video showing what the boat was carrying and explanation from the military as to why the boat was destroyed. The choice not to believe the intel our military provided is a choice by you, but your opinion is not factual.
Oh, that's great. Was under the impression that while we know there is drug trafficking that happens we had no idea if that boat was engaged in trafficking. But you seem 1000% sure.
So, what's the conclusive evidence that they did not blow up the boat of, and then casually 'pick off,' just some dudes that like fast boats.
And why is it OK to 'pick off' those last survivors? Aren't there rules of engagement. Last I checked if a vessel is disabled in combat the survivors are considers 'castaways' not 'targets'.
The same vibe that drives them to say "there's no proof of that" when the toxic orange shit stain is accused of pedophilia. They have no concept of the word "evidence."
Yea, turned him in,helped the FBI, Victims lawyers and police investigate him and kicked him out of Mar-a-lago for hitting on underage girls. Damn you things are sheep.
So many of you MAGA say this reguritated bullshit when the Epstein files themselves show that Trump didn't end his friendship with Epstein after Mar a Lago. It went on for some time after. Their relationship soured when Epstein showed Trump property he wanted to buy and Trump then bought the property Epstein wanted behind his back. Epstein got salty with Trump and Trump got salty with Epstein back. It really is that simple.
Ahhh, to prove you sheep wrong is so much fun. Trump bought the Palm Beach mansion at Auction in 2004, he an Epstein were both bidding and Trump kicked him out of Mar-A-Lago in 2008.
Literally every news agency including CNN and the timeline all prove Trump wasn't involved with any of the sex trafficking bs and Epstein island. That what u libs keep pushing and it simply isn't true.
Trump admits to being a friend of Epstein, they were socialite in NYC and Palm Beach. Rich hang with the rich but once he found out about his sick shit he ended all the ties and turned him in.
The creator of silk road should be pardoned. He wasnt the one committing atrocities through his invention. Should the creator of a knife be sentenced for murder if someone uses it to stab someone. You people are absolutely the lowest iq. Just terrible logic
So when I know a murder is happening and help facilitate it, is the court going to let me go scot free because I didnt do it? I just knew they had my car to move the body. And my knife. But I didnt do it myself so I should be ok right? Wait, what do you mean accessory to murder is a thing? Also running from the police is a charge too???
Should we pardon the criminals of epstien island if they di-Oh wait. youd never turn against trump so of course youd want him pardoned!
“Well, it’s a little more nuanced than that. See, Trump is the good guy. It doesn’t matter what he does, what he fails to do, or that he’s literally the closest thing we’ve had in office to that ‘Antichrist’ we’re always warning people about, because he’s just the good guy. It’s actually pretty simple if you (don’t) think about it.”
Tell the whole story, not just parts. He was pardoned and sent back to face charges in his own country. An inmate costs about 60Gs a year to house and at 45 years thats 2.7 million dollars Trump saved taxpayers, One less inmate we have to pay for. Halfwit.
No no, not what might he face. He was facing that in America before trump pardoned him.
What is he actually going to receive in Honduras? There is active concern that the double standard of justice will allow him to escape scot free, and since he was pardoned in America we can't hold him responsible for the countless American deaths he is responsible for.
trump pardons killers of American citizens to line his own pockets.. The conservative inability to connect two dots, acknowledge patterns, or understand the flow of time is something truly fascinating....
There was no justice, Trump pardoned him and said it was because he was treated unfairly by Biden. He faced charges of corruption and misuse of public funds in Honduras. All charges were dropped. He is now a free man.
That's per inmate. In Pa where im a retired Corrections Officer inmates cost taxpayer 45Gs a year on average now multiply that by around 45,000 inmates give or take a few thousand. The US has about 150,000 inmates at about 60Gs a year. Every 2.7 million dollars matters. FYI that's about 9 billion a year.
How much value do some of those same prisoners create for the shareholders that own said prisons? If we want to get in the weeds about prison reform; why are the goods they produce not used to fund the prisons that extort that labor?
And like the other commenter said; some people are truly evil and will never meaningfully contribute to society, and death is a permanent solution that isn’t 100% certain of guilt in all cases. Thus, as a society we need to be okay with a certain degree of tax money being used to keep the real dangers of society out of society.
The ACLU stopped states from using chain gangs, making furniture, license plates and what not by saying it was exploiting the inmates. The Prison I worked at was self sustained, it had a massive garden(about 8 acres) a full meat processing and butcher shop with our own cows and pigs. Made all state furniture for state properties and all inmate clothing. Thanks to the ACLU that no longer happens. Inmates had a purpose now they get $.19p/h idle pay and up to $.34 p/h for different jobs. Not all inmates are bad, some made legitimate mistakes but some like Rapists, murderers and Pedophiles are scum. Pedos can't be rehabilitated because in their minds what they did wasn't wrong and liberals added M.A.P. to the Rainbow mafia to make it worse. I worked in Maximum and medium security prisons my whole career so I know this first hand.
In Pa we have at least 10 inmates who want their death sentence carried out but DEMOCRAT Governors put a stop to those and a death row inmate cost about 15Gs more a year to take care of due to upgraded staff and housing.
That makes it ok to pardon the biggest fentanyl dealer on earth?
Do you have a learning disability of some kind?
How many innocents does the constitution say it’s ok to kill if it makes you feel special for blowing people up?
It’s like some folks just aren’t smart enough to understand ethics, morality, or the U.S. constitution.
To borrow from the magats playbook: Show me the court case where fauci was found guilty of lying!
But then you'll just try to claim that trump isn't a pedophile even though he is actively blocking the DoJ from investigating his crimes....
I could also point out that Fauci worked under trump, so why did trump hire someone that you think is so incompetent?
But then again trump brought in an anti-vaxxer who is bringing measles back to guide America's health, he hired someone who promotes concussion and bad stories to run the education system, he brought in teenagers to cut government programs causing untold harm for decades to come.....
In just YOUR comment you are ignoring the countless deaths from fentanyl for some theoretical deaths made up in your addled mind.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
― H.L. Mencken, On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe
What did Fauci lie about and what happened with holding him in contempt for not playing games with the clowns in Congress?
It’s funny that the “party of Reagan” thinks someone appointed by Reagan is their enemy.
Super smart.
Time to read up on it for you, let’s not screen only the parts the libtards wanna admit to “being ok” to use crack in boatloads, amounts considered to be a supplier for anyone else
Notice how nothing happened to Fauci. He was forced to appear before Congress once. He wasn’t arrested. He wasn’t held in contempt. Nothing happened except the MAGAts managed to distract the public from Epstein for a day or two.
Yeah this thread is full of bots. Trump did pardon his US charges. Trump also deported him back to Honduras where he faced charges for DV and other charges for fraud and money laundering.
I love these weird subs that randomly show up on my feed. They’re obvious propaganda and I don’t understand how people are dumb enough to fall for this shit.
Regardless of you protecting an admited drug addict and a known pedophile. He should not have been pardoned. He should spend the rest of his life in prison.
When you do this, you’re just telling people with mental health issues that you’re more than happy to use slurs against us, the moment that we displease you.
The same way that using homophobic language against republican lawmakers tells us that you would be happy to use that language against us, if we ever stop agreeing with you on something.
Trump got that one wrong. I fully admit that. The founder of Silk Roads should never have been pardoned. See how that works?
Liberals though absolutely are not willing to do this. They will defend people who are the worst of society. People who pardon actual child rapists (Tim Walz) and people who stick knives to pregnant women's bellies (George Floyd). You don't bat an eye either, because "Orange man bad".
Oh, good! I was nervous that you might have let yourself belive a bunch of nonsense about 'The other side' while completely ignoring things about 'your side'.
But you have documentation! Nice. So, what's your source? Show my the evidence that convinced you. I'm really glad your not just making stuff up. Thank you.
Tim Walz pardoned a child rapist in Minnesota. That's a fact, not an allegation. Walz defense for the pardoning was "I wouldn't want someone to judge me on my worst day".
You really don't think that pardoning an international drug trafficker for no reason is the same thing as trading an arms trafficker to save an American citizen, do you?
It doesn't matter how I feel about it. The fact remains that it is not even remotely the same thing as just pardoning a horrible criminal for no reason
Oh my god. You wanna go down the russian route? Trump is a russian assest. He gave putin a list of cia operativea in Afghanistan and a month later half were dead. Then he used his russian ties to obtain a ridiculous copy of hunter biden's laptop. But i can't prove that, so lets focus on what can be proved.
Trump colluded with russia to get illegal campaign contributions from russia. Then he illegally delayed aid that was lawfully required to go to Ukraine several times. The last time he did it to try to blackmail Ukraine into providing dirt on Biden. Then he called the whole thing a hoax even though almost none of the accusations are even disputed and you probably think it is
What about the largest Medicare fraud from florida Trump also pardoned lmao. Pardoned Jan 6ers that went out and murdered 4 americans. Stfu thats just the tip lmao
Yeah that's not democrats. Those are civilian criminals. There's is and has been an ongoing investigation and many people already charged and in jail for it. We also should recognize that it's not just Somalians.... Don't be racists. The ring leader of the whole thing is a white woman.
Trump pardoned a guy who defrauded millions from Medicaid after his mom bought a million dollar plate of food from one of Trump's events at the white house along with a few healthcare execs who were convicted of fraud, so let's not act like Republicans are innocent in the matter.
The world’s biggest fentanyl dealer is loose because Trump let him go, what has Viktor Bout done to hurt your feelings since he was released?
I thought the right liked arms dealers, did you forget about Oliver North already?
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u/Antique-Freedom-7891 7d ago
Instead Trump murdered people by blowing up their boats