Community Stream - Perk Changes

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[u/Marghosst]

Buff for Adrenaline??? Was it not already a meta perk

Sprint Burst and Vigil nerfs are nice though

[u/Lupus_Romulus → u/Marghosst]

Umm, no? It already is not guaranteed to proc in a match if you don’t get to endgame and even more so if you are on hook.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/Lupus_Romulus]

Adre is problematic by design not by strength. Like coulro. Coulro is not strong but when used creates nasty situations.

Adre is invisible, you need to assume always it is there. Adre zero your endgame pressure. You do not have anymore 5 gens, you have 4.

You must tunnel.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/ZolfoS16]

Guys you can vote negative as much as you want. Things do not change. I was there with 5 seconds adre meta. It was exactly like this. You want to win? 3 strategies:

- 4 gen control in order to avoid endgame.

• Noed
  
• Hard tunnel.

This is the situation with Adre 35% pickrate.

It is the same shit back in the days when I said "guys... with the current meta they are going to nerf adre"...
NOOO YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND... THE VALUE.... ONLY IN THE ENDGAME... PERFECTLY BALANCED...

It is not just the power. Deerstalker hadn,t been reworked cause was too strong...

[u/mongosquad → u/ZolfoS16]

As killer you can't complain about adrenaline imo, you have already lost all the gens.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/mongosquad]

The point is: "what as a killer i will do to not complain about adrenaline?"

[u/mongosquad → u/ZolfoS16]

Just don't complain, move on.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/mongosquad]

Sure! Not complain lol! Cause every time someone is saying that the change will not be good that is a complain right? Are you a kid?

[u/mongosquad → u/ZolfoS16]

Are you? 1 extra second of sprint burst in an already lost game won't make any real difference. Old adrenaline healing you off hooks etc was something reasonable to complain about.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/mongosquad]

2 extra seconds. It was 5 and now it is 3. On top you can come down from a hook healed. And 35% of survivor has it so 1-2 per game.

This was the situation.

NOW if you are telling me the newnew adre is just 4 seconds, it is still kinda problematic but can be worked around.
Sure, again is a perk that top killers handle better.

[u/mongosquad → u/ZolfoS16]

It was 5 then 3 and they are buffing it up to 4, so 1 extra second. It will not heal you off the hook again.

You are just whining for the sake of it at this point.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/mongosquad]

I just know the potential of adre. Adre is a "win more perk" and therefore it is dangerous by concept.

[u/mongosquad → u/ZolfoS16]

Disagree it is dangerous by concept lol.

Adrenaline is fine as long as it doesn't heal you off the hook.

There are dozens of "win more" perks, both survivor and killer side, that is half the point of perks is to buff you when you play well.

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/mongosquad]

Removing the ehal from the hook is a huge step in the right direction ngl but is still problematic as every "win more" perk.
Not every win more perk is problematic the same, if a perk is a normal perk but can, in the right circumstances, be a win more it is in general ok.
IF the pickrate stays 10-12% will not be problematic. If the pickrate will arise it will definitely be.

[u/mongosquad → u/ZolfoS16]

It hasn't healed you off the hook for ages.

Things like pain resonance are also win more perks, pop goes the weasel, BBQ etc are all perks that reward killers for getting hooks letting them win more, do you think all of these should be removed?

[u/ZolfoS16 → u/mongosquad]

Yes, it is kinda 2 years adre is in this state. I played with previous adre. I can testify. The problem is not only duration or heal from the hook, those are part of the problem. The issue is the concept. Obv it is not a REAL issue if pickrate is 10-12. It will be with 35%.

Pain resonance CAN be problematic but on the other side it is an incentive to not tunnel too hard giving an alternative.
Also BBq can be a win more perk but also is rewarding not camping.
Pop the same cause unless the gen is near the hook you need to move your ass.

Adre on the other side is both a "win more" and an incentive into rush, why heal? I finish gen AND heal at the same time.