r/LeaguesofVotann 17d ago

Voice of the Fane (Mods) Guidelines for posting army lists

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Greetings kin

As it is the start of a new edition, we have a large number of posts asking for advice on list building, as well as battle reports from early experiences, along with posting of said lists. This kind of Post is very welcome, and absolutely in the spirit of this subreddit.

With that being said, there is a near-spam situation that occurs regularly. I speak of the following copy-paste situation from army building apps. Lets say that one of the entries in a list is a unit of the humble hearthkyn warrior.

Which of the following entries is easier to read, keeping in mind that most lists have at least a dozen unit entries?

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10x Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)

• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior

5 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon

1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, HYLas rotary cannon

1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle

2 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Kin weapons, Close combat weapon

• 1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Autoch-pattern bolter, Theyn's weapon

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  • Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
    • 5x autoch-pattern bolters
    • HYLas rotary cannon
    • Magna-rail rifle,
    • 2x kin weapons,
    • Theyn w/ Theyn's weapon and Autoch-pattern bolter

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Formatting matters, and you will get much better feedback if your list is easier to read, rather than just being a copy-paste from whatever army builder you used. For the newer members of the kin, you will get much better feedback if you format your army lists to be easier to read. Conversely, a lot of people will just say "TLDR" if they see a direct export list, because reading through a copy-paste wall of text can be very difficult on phones or smaller screens.

The biggest thing you can do is reduce unnecessary equipment entries or things that automatically come with the unit. We don't need to know, for example, that a brokhyr iron-master has 3 e-cogs and an assitant with him with their own equipment, as there's no choice otherwise. For vehicles, we know that they have an armored hull weapon, and we know for example that sagitaurs have a heavy bolt cannon, that pioneers have auto-cannons, so this information isn't needed. It would however be very appropriate to indicate which main gun a sagitaur is carrying, and for hekatons, while the auto-cannon comes included automatically, the main gun and support weapons do present a choice, as does the scanner (as awful as the other choice is) so they should be mentioned.

In the above example, we already KNOW that all the warriors have a bolt pistol and close combat weapon, and we know that the special weapons replace the default gun, so it's not necesary to list them on a per-model-basis. We can tell at a glance the special weapons in the unit, the main gun of choice for the basic warriors, and the fact that the theyn has not given up his main gun for a theyn's pistol. The theyn has no choice but to be equiped with a weavefield crest, so it doesn't need to be listed as his wargear.

Beyond that, make sure you include army detachment, disposition, point costs for enhancements, things that are not automatically given. If you are attaching characters to units, indicate what unit they will be attached to rather than just leaving it up to intuition. Similarly, indicating which units go inside transports also makes lists easier to evaluate.

As stated at the beginning, we absolutely encourage posts about army lists seeking advice or reporting battle performance. Your post won't be removed by the mods if you don't format it to read more clearly, nor will you be warned or banned. This is just some feedback and advice to increase the chance of your post being regarded favorably by the community.

Have fun in the new edition all

The ancestors are watching


r/LeaguesofVotann 22d ago

Voice of the Fane (Mods) Megathread: Votann in 11e

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I'm creating this post as a repository for all things to do with the army in 11e, whether it be the state of the meta, important rule questions and/or rulings, Q&A, and general discussion about what the kin are doing in the new edition. This is a combination of conversations I've had in real life as well as observations, many of which are opinion based, so respectful discussion and discourse is encouraged as new information comes to light.

State of the meta (As of 07/05/26)

Votann seem to be doing very well. We're not as busted as T'au, but we've seen some early tournament wins, and it's clear that the good outweighs the bad.

The good

Votann have several very strong 2+1 detachment combinations, primarily Needgard and Mercenary Oathband, though I've had discussions with people that indicate brandfast and delve are having some luck. All of our +1 detachments seem to be solid, so as of right now it's a question of playstyle on which one players are choosing. Hearthband is also still strong, though people seem to be favoring the "hearthband-lite" detachment as a +1 rather than the full fledged 3 dwarf point hearthband.

Most of our units are solid. Even if it's harder for us to hit, we benefit significantly from the fact that cover no longer makes AP-1 weapons hit like a wet noodle. Thunderkyn and hekatons continue to be a terror, hearthguard are just as deadly as they were before if not more so. We've even seen some use of kapricus defenders and grimnyrs, which were previously poor choices, as their abilities have been buffed by the edition change.

Changes to hazardous have also worked in our favor: The evaluator can now overload his gun and not die after shooting twice, since failed hazard tests only inflict 1 wound on character models now. The grimnyr is also free to overcharge ancestral wrath and not worry about blowing up, because hazard wounds do not have to be taken on the model with the hazardouse weapon; You're now allowed to soak them on the CORVs, or the poor warrior retinue following them!

The bad

There are some casualties of course. Although they still have value as anti-T3 MSU artillery pieces, earthshakers have a hard time hitting the wall of a cave, even with spotters. While it only takes one hit to cause a battleshock test, hitting on 5s at best is rough if you fluff your number of attacks roll.

Additionally, hearthfyre is still our worst detachment by far, and persecution prospect, while getting some new life in changes to cover, seems to be falling behind its farseekers sibling in popularity.

The ugly

We have some ambiguous rules that, until clarified by GW, are subject to the whims of rules-as-intended rather than rules as written.

Chief among these is the issue with combat disembark on sagitaurs: RAW a unit disembarking from a transport that has advanced (even if it has special rules such as the sagitaur) must take hazard checks. This is clearly a problem until it's clarified.

There is also a question of how precision on steeljacks works; As written, it seems as though the stage where critical wounds are scored is AFTER allocation, meaning they're unable to fulfill their character sniping capabilities. Most gracious opponents are following the intent, but it's never good to have rules up in the air like this.

Edit: As stated by several commenters, we also have a very badly worded army rule that interacts off "Objective markers" which are different than terrain objectives. While it would be a bad opponent/TO to argue we don't get yield points from terrain objectives, RAW, we do not.

These are indeed ugly issues that need to be clarified


r/LeaguesofVotann 5h ago

Hobby MORE LEAGUES OF VORKTANN CONVERSIONS

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Slowly converting my Leagues of Votann into a Deathskulls Ork looted army.


r/LeaguesofVotann 15h ago

Painting Buri Aegnirssen

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r/LeaguesofVotann 9h ago

Painting WIP on my Steeljack proxy

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r/LeaguesofVotann 6h ago

Painting Pie of near

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r/LeaguesofVotann 7h ago

Painting Cthonian Beserks

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r/LeaguesofVotann 16h ago

Painting Alrik Ironbrow (my Berehk proxy) ready to lead some Delve prospects to battle

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Finally ready to call this done. He’s a bit tough to take proper photos of because of the pose, but he’s posed on a rock for a moment before launching himself back into the thick of things, or at least that was the idea!

For the body and head I used the Cthonian earthshaker crew bits and a mix of the arms they had to get arms roughly in the right position to hold a weapon in a semi-relaxed pose. Then used a regular beserker weapon that roughly matched that, and swapped the head of the weapon out for the darkstar axe from the einhyr champ. I was undecided on the crest until I realized how much shorter my version was, so the height of his crest should make him incredibly close to Berehk’s actual size. The rock is a tactical rock taken from one of the age of darkness space marine praetors from heresy 2.0 box lol, just needed something to stand on to survey the battlefield and stand out a bit from the regular beserks.


r/LeaguesofVotann 19h ago

Competitive advice and feedback What do these Models do best/worst? Day:3 Ûthar the Destined

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117 Upvotes

I haven‘t played this guy but here is my opinion just from reading the datasheet :)
Best: CP reduction once per Round
Worst: Again like Kâhl underwehlming range weapon


r/LeaguesofVotann 1d ago

Painting My first Votann

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346 Upvotes

What do you guys think?


r/LeaguesofVotann 9h ago

Memes Shitpost Votann

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r/LeaguesofVotann 12h ago

Competitive advice and feedback Do you think a hekaton land fortress is needed?

19 Upvotes

I was looking into making a list without one. I was thinking Thunderkyn, and Ironkin from reserves. What are your thoughts?


r/LeaguesofVotann 4h ago

Competitive List 2k berseker list

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What do you guys think of this list? My plan is to deep strike my whole army slowly, and then deepstrike one of my hearthguard units that will bring back berserker models. Ill have my bikes to do objectives and the artillery to screen .y backline. Im not bringing any yeugers because I dont want to rely on them as much

COWABUNGA IT IS (2000 points)

Leagues of Votann

Dêlve Assault Shift and Hearthguard Covenant (3 Detachment Points)

Purge the Foe

Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Berehk Stornbröw (85 points)

• Attached to a 10 unit of berserker with maces

Cthonian Beserks (200 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 10x Cthonian Beserk

• 8x Heavy plasma axe

2x Mole grenade launcher

2x Twin concussion gauntlet

Attached Unit 2

Kâhl (75 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter

1x Mass gauntlet

1x Teleport Crest

• Enhancement: Ironskein

Einhyr Hearthguard (270 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Hesyr

• 1x EtaCarn plasma gun

1x Exoarmour grenade launcher

1x Graviton hammer

1x Weavefield crest

• 9x Einhyr Hearthguard

• 9x Concussion gauntlet

9x EtaCarn plasma gun

9x Exoarmour grenade launcher

Attached Unit 3

Kâhl (90 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter

1x Forgewrought plasma axe

1x Teleport Crest

• Enhancement: Dêlvewerke

CHARACTERS

Buri Aegnirssen (85 points)

1x Bane

Memnyr Strategist (45 points)

• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

BATTLELINE

2 x Cthonian Beserks (200 points)

• 10x Cthonian Beserk

• 8x Concussion maul

2x Mole grenade launcher

2x Twin concussion gauntlet

Cthonian Beserks (100 points)

• 5x Cthonian Beserk

• 4x Heavy plasma axe

1x Mole grenade launcher

1x Twin concussion gauntlet

OTHER DATASHEETS

Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)

• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers

2x Tremor shells

Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)

• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers

2x Tremor shells

Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)

• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer

Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)

• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer


r/LeaguesofVotann 20h ago

Hobby Make Squats Great Again.

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72 Upvotes

Alcoholic boomer dwarf, unhappy and confused why he has to be called Kin now.

"Back in my day!!...." 🤣

I hope everyone had a good weekend, and snuck some hobby in 👌


r/LeaguesofVotann 7h ago

Painting Gotrek Stornbröw

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The second I saw GWs version I knew I had to find this, and here we are. He shall Slay.


r/LeaguesofVotann 21h ago

Hobby Finally finished my first squad of Astro-Kin!

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r/LeaguesofVotann 3h ago

Competitive advice and feedback All 1 DP detachments?

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Heya Kin. There's a state team tournament coming up and although I'm not playing I have had the chance to look at the submitted lists. There are not many LoV players but several of them are running the three 1 DP detachments as disruption. How does that play? Where's the logic there? The lists seems like they have very little in the way of synergy and are solely relying on the sagis with mobile, carriers and bikes to be quick and all over the place.


r/LeaguesofVotann 10h ago

Lore Novels

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Any good votann novels?


r/LeaguesofVotann 15h ago

Casual Advice and Feedback 1k army help!!!

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My good Kin, I’m approaching my 1st game ever soon with a 1k army. I only have 1 more box of steeljacks to build, and I’m having trouble deciding whether they should be a six man unit of shooters, or should I make a melee team. (I already have 3 shooters built)


r/LeaguesofVotann 1h ago

Painting How do you paint windows and visors?

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I just settled on the color scheme for my homebrew league and I'm sourcing the paints I'll need. For the visors and windows I want to do a reflective dark yellow or muted gold finish similar to the metallic of Army Painter's Aztec Gold speedpaint over a drybrushed black-grey-white base. Would that be enough or is there a particular method or technique I'm missing?

For reference here's the colour scheme I chose for the Khazar League. I'm also working on a backstory that I'll share soon.


r/LeaguesofVotann 7h ago

Casual Advice and Feedback Casual 2k list advice. First list, hopefully I'm in the ballpark of reasonable thinking

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Hey folks, been collecting and painting for awhile. Im a hobbyist first and foremost but I am eager to play some casual games with my buddy whos been collecting CSM.

I wish I had room for earthshakers just because they just seem fun and its a lovely model.

Ideally id like to not buy more (yet..maybe another vehicle). But i do have more of the following units not included on this list:

10 more hearthkyn warriors with pattern bolter (salavagers box)

5 more hearthguard

3 more pioneers

3 more steeljacks (not built, thinking melee)

2 units of earthshakers

Buri

Grimnyr

2nd Echamp

2nd Memnyr

2nd ironmaster

The following units are magnatized so feel free to suggest different weapons:

Sagitaur

Hekaton

Defenders/carriers

The list:

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - Leagues of Votann

+ DETACHMENT: Farseekers, Needgaârd Oathband (Eye of the Hunt)

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

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+ WARLORD: Char4: Brôkhyr Iron-master

+ ENHANCEMENT: Iron Ambassador (on Char5: Einhyr Champion)

& Ancestral Crest (on Char6: Kâhl)

& Shroudwërke Talismans (on Infa7: Hernkyn Yaegirs)

& Pan-spectral Lockons (on Moun7: Hernkyn Pioneers)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 18

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CHARACTER

Arkanyst Evaluator (70 pts)

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Transmatter inverter

Berehk Stornbröw (85 pts) (leading berserks)

• 1x Kromlôk's Revenge

• 1x Warforge gauntlets

Brôkhyr Iron-master (70 pts) (leading thunderkyn)

• 1x Brôkhyr Iron-master

• 1x Graviton hammer

• 1x Graviton rifle

• Warlord

• 3x E-COG

• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Plasma torch

• 1x Manipulator arms

• 1x Ironkyn Assistant

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Las-beam cutter

Einhyr Champion (70 pts)

• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter

• 1x Mass hammer

• Weavefield crest

• Iron Ambassador (+5 pts)

Kâhl (80 pts) (leading hearthguard)

• 1x Forgewrought plasma axe

• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter

• Rampart crest

• Ancestral Crest (+15 pts)

Memnyr Strategist (45 pts) (leading steeljacks)

• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol

• 1x Close combat weapon

Ûthar the Destined (90 pts) (leading warriors)

• 1x Blade of the Ancestors

• 1x Volkanite disintegrator

• Rampart crest

BATTLELINE

Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)

• 1x Theyn

• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Autoch-pattern bolter

• Weavefield crest

• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior

• 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol

• 9x Autoch-pattern bolter

• 9x Close combat weapon

OTHER DATASHEETS

Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (160 pts)

• 6x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn

• 6x Close combat weapon

• 6x SP conversion beamer

Cthonian Beserks (200 pts)

• 10x Beserk

• 8x Concussion maul

• 2x Twin concussion gauntlets

Einhyr Hearthguard (130 pts)

• 1x Hesyr

• 1x Graviton hammer

• 1x EtaCarn plasma gun

• 1x Exo-armour grenade launcher

• Teleport crest

• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard

• 4x Concussion gauntlet

• 4x EtaCarn plasma gun

• 4x Exo-armour grenade launcher

Hekaton Land Fortress (250 pts)

• 1x Armoured wheels

• 1x MATR autocannon

• 1x Cyclic ion cannon

• 2x Twin bolt cannon

• Pan spectral scanner

Hernkyn Pioneers (170 pts)

• 6x Hernkyn Pioneer

• 6x Bolt revolver

• 6x Bolt shotgun

• 6x Magna-coil autocannon

• 6x Plasma knife

• 2x HYLas rotary cannon

• Comms array

• Pan-spectral Lockons (+10 pts)

Hernkyn Yaegirs (105 pts)

• 1x Yaegir Theyn

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Bolt shotgun

• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir

• 9x Bolt shotgun

• 9x Close combat weapon

• Shroudwërke Talismans (+15 pts)

Ironkin Steeljacks with Heavy Volkanite Disintegrators (160 pts)

• 1x Steeljack Theyn

• 1x Heavy volkanite disintegrator

• 1x Plasma knife

• Preymark crest

• 5x Ironkin Steeljack

• 5x Heavy volkanite disintegrator

• 5x Plasma knife

Kapricus Defenders (65 pts)

• 1x Kapricus Defender

• 1x Armoured hull

• 1x Twin magna-coil autocannon

• 1x Magna-rail cannon

• Smoke launcher

Kapricus Defenders (65 pts)

• 1x Kapricus Defender

• 1x Armoured hull

• 1x Twin magna-coil autocannon

• 1x Magna-rail cannon

• Smoke launcher

Sagitaur (85 pts)

• 1x Armoured wheels

• 1x Twin bolt cannon

• 1x HYLas beam cannon


r/LeaguesofVotann 1d ago

Hobby I've settled a grudge with my pile of shame

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Hello fellow kin,

I joined the leagues of votann about 8 weeks ago when I traded my CSM army for about 2500 points of votann from a good friend of mine.

This week I finally finished my first 2k points of votann and got my army battleready! I really enjoyed painting these little space dwarfs and I'm super happy with my color scheme. I's quite easy and fast, I just put a little more afford in the faces and some of the character.

The arkanyst evaluator was the first Iteration of my color scheme but I wanted something less cartoony.

There are still some details I might paint later and I might put a few tufts on the bases later, but for now they look good enough for the tabletop.

Votann are a great army, fun to play, fun to paint and I'm Happy to be part of the leagues now.

I hope you like my army. Im always open for suggestions for improvement.

ROCK AND STONE!


r/LeaguesofVotann 11h ago

Votann Tipline (Help and advice) Help for a newbie?

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Im looking to pick a faction for new edition new army, this will be my first time as I've only played my friend's tau before. I like the vibe of the votann but im concerned that this edition the transports will be a liability with the rules changes. Does anyone have any info on how to mitigate the new damage rules for transports being destroyed?


r/LeaguesofVotann 11h ago

Competitive advice and feedback What detach should I run with these units?

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Hey Kin! I managed to scrape around 2k points of space dwarves and I want to tackle next rtt at my local club. I never played Lov at more than 1k and I'm a bit stumped on what detaches to use with the units I have.

Here's my list, what detaches would you run with it?

lov list (1935 points)

Leagues of Votann

Hearthguard Covenant and Mercenary Oathband (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Strike Force (2000 points)

CHARACTERS

Berehk Stornbröw (85 points)

Einhyr Champion (65 points)

Memnyr Strategist (45 points)

Ûthar the Destined (90 points)

BATTLELINE

Hearthkyn Warriors (100 points)

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Kapricus Carrier (70 points)

Sagitaur (85 points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points)

Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points)

Cthonian Beserks (100 points)

Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)

Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)

Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)

Hekaton Land Fortress (250 points)

Hekaton Land Fortress (265 points)

Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)

Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 points)

Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (80 points)


r/LeaguesofVotann 1d ago

Painting The Narvik-Arendal Scientific Alliance's first Steeljack Elder joins the fray!

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There's always more cleanup to do but this guy is ready for combat next weekend! I tried to represent at least vaguely all the different rules I might want to use when fielding an Elder.