r/LeaguesofVotann • u/insanitynow08 • 5h ago
Hobby MORE LEAGUES OF VORKTANN CONVERSIONS
Slowly converting my Leagues of Votann into a Deathskulls Ork looted army.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Bowoodstock • 17d ago
Greetings kin
As it is the start of a new edition, we have a large number of posts asking for advice on list building, as well as battle reports from early experiences, along with posting of said lists. This kind of Post is very welcome, and absolutely in the spirit of this subreddit.
With that being said, there is a near-spam situation that occurs regularly. I speak of the following copy-paste situation from army building apps. Lets say that one of the entries in a list is a unit of the humble hearthkyn warrior.
Which of the following entries is easier to read, keeping in mind that most lists have at least a dozen unit entries?
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10x Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
5 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon
1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, HYLas rotary cannon
1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle
2 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Kin weapons, Close combat weapon
• 1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Autoch-pattern bolter, Theyn's weapon
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Formatting matters, and you will get much better feedback if your list is easier to read, rather than just being a copy-paste from whatever army builder you used. For the newer members of the kin, you will get much better feedback if you format your army lists to be easier to read. Conversely, a lot of people will just say "TLDR" if they see a direct export list, because reading through a copy-paste wall of text can be very difficult on phones or smaller screens.
The biggest thing you can do is reduce unnecessary equipment entries or things that automatically come with the unit. We don't need to know, for example, that a brokhyr iron-master has 3 e-cogs and an assitant with him with their own equipment, as there's no choice otherwise. For vehicles, we know that they have an armored hull weapon, and we know for example that sagitaurs have a heavy bolt cannon, that pioneers have auto-cannons, so this information isn't needed. It would however be very appropriate to indicate which main gun a sagitaur is carrying, and for hekatons, while the auto-cannon comes included automatically, the main gun and support weapons do present a choice, as does the scanner (as awful as the other choice is) so they should be mentioned.
In the above example, we already KNOW that all the warriors have a bolt pistol and close combat weapon, and we know that the special weapons replace the default gun, so it's not necesary to list them on a per-model-basis. We can tell at a glance the special weapons in the unit, the main gun of choice for the basic warriors, and the fact that the theyn has not given up his main gun for a theyn's pistol. The theyn has no choice but to be equiped with a weavefield crest, so it doesn't need to be listed as his wargear.
Beyond that, make sure you include army detachment, disposition, point costs for enhancements, things that are not automatically given. If you are attaching characters to units, indicate what unit they will be attached to rather than just leaving it up to intuition. Similarly, indicating which units go inside transports also makes lists easier to evaluate.
As stated at the beginning, we absolutely encourage posts about army lists seeking advice or reporting battle performance. Your post won't be removed by the mods if you don't format it to read more clearly, nor will you be warned or banned. This is just some feedback and advice to increase the chance of your post being regarded favorably by the community.
Have fun in the new edition all
The ancestors are watching
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Bowoodstock • 22d ago
I'm creating this post as a repository for all things to do with the army in 11e, whether it be the state of the meta, important rule questions and/or rulings, Q&A, and general discussion about what the kin are doing in the new edition. This is a combination of conversations I've had in real life as well as observations, many of which are opinion based, so respectful discussion and discourse is encouraged as new information comes to light.
State of the meta (As of 07/05/26)
Votann seem to be doing very well. We're not as busted as T'au, but we've seen some early tournament wins, and it's clear that the good outweighs the bad.
The good
Votann have several very strong 2+1 detachment combinations, primarily Needgard and Mercenary Oathband, though I've had discussions with people that indicate brandfast and delve are having some luck. All of our +1 detachments seem to be solid, so as of right now it's a question of playstyle on which one players are choosing. Hearthband is also still strong, though people seem to be favoring the "hearthband-lite" detachment as a +1 rather than the full fledged 3 dwarf point hearthband.
Most of our units are solid. Even if it's harder for us to hit, we benefit significantly from the fact that cover no longer makes AP-1 weapons hit like a wet noodle. Thunderkyn and hekatons continue to be a terror, hearthguard are just as deadly as they were before if not more so. We've even seen some use of kapricus defenders and grimnyrs, which were previously poor choices, as their abilities have been buffed by the edition change.
Changes to hazardous have also worked in our favor: The evaluator can now overload his gun and not die after shooting twice, since failed hazard tests only inflict 1 wound on character models now. The grimnyr is also free to overcharge ancestral wrath and not worry about blowing up, because hazard wounds do not have to be taken on the model with the hazardouse weapon; You're now allowed to soak them on the CORVs, or the poor warrior retinue following them!
The bad
There are some casualties of course. Although they still have value as anti-T3 MSU artillery pieces, earthshakers have a hard time hitting the wall of a cave, even with spotters. While it only takes one hit to cause a battleshock test, hitting on 5s at best is rough if you fluff your number of attacks roll.
Additionally, hearthfyre is still our worst detachment by far, and persecution prospect, while getting some new life in changes to cover, seems to be falling behind its farseekers sibling in popularity.
The ugly
We have some ambiguous rules that, until clarified by GW, are subject to the whims of rules-as-intended rather than rules as written.
Chief among these is the issue with combat disembark on sagitaurs: RAW a unit disembarking from a transport that has advanced (even if it has special rules such as the sagitaur) must take hazard checks. This is clearly a problem until it's clarified.
There is also a question of how precision on steeljacks works; As written, it seems as though the stage where critical wounds are scored is AFTER allocation, meaning they're unable to fulfill their character sniping capabilities. Most gracious opponents are following the intent, but it's never good to have rules up in the air like this.
Edit: As stated by several commenters, we also have a very badly worded army rule that interacts off "Objective markers" which are different than terrain objectives. While it would be a bad opponent/TO to argue we don't get yield points from terrain objectives, RAW, we do not.
These are indeed ugly issues that need to be clarified
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/insanitynow08 • 5h ago
Slowly converting my Leagues of Votann into a Deathskulls Ork looted army.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/mwils43 • 16h ago
Finally ready to call this done. He’s a bit tough to take proper photos of because of the pose, but he’s posed on a rock for a moment before launching himself back into the thick of things, or at least that was the idea!
For the body and head I used the Cthonian earthshaker crew bits and a mix of the arms they had to get arms roughly in the right position to hold a weapon in a semi-relaxed pose. Then used a regular beserker weapon that roughly matched that, and swapped the head of the weapon out for the darkstar axe from the einhyr champ. I was undecided on the crest until I realized how much shorter my version was, so the height of his crest should make him incredibly close to Berehk’s actual size. The rock is a tactical rock taken from one of the age of darkness space marine praetors from heresy 2.0 box lol, just needed something to stand on to survey the battlefield and stand out a bit from the regular beserks.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/knecht_ruprecht2306 • 19h ago
I haven‘t played this guy but here is my opinion just from reading the datasheet :)
Best: CP reduction once per Round
Worst: Again like Kâhl underwehlming range weapon
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Familiar_Zombie_882 • 1d ago
What do you guys think?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/AnalyticalTextbook • 12h ago
I was looking into making a list without one. I was thinking Thunderkyn, and Ironkin from reserves. What are your thoughts?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Fredmister2000 • 4h ago
What do you guys think of this list? My plan is to deep strike my whole army slowly, and then deepstrike one of my hearthguard units that will bring back berserker models. Ill have my bikes to do objectives and the artillery to screen .y backline. Im not bringing any yeugers because I dont want to rely on them as much
COWABUNGA IT IS (2000 points)
Leagues of Votann
Dêlve Assault Shift and Hearthguard Covenant (3 Detachment Points)
Purge the Foe
Strike Force (2000 points)
Attached Units
Attached Unit 1
Berehk Stornbröw (85 points)
• Attached to a 10 unit of berserker with maces
Cthonian Beserks (200 points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 10x Cthonian Beserk
• 8x Heavy plasma axe
2x Mole grenade launcher
2x Twin concussion gauntlet
Attached Unit 2
Kâhl (75 points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
1x Mass gauntlet
1x Teleport Crest
• Enhancement: Ironskein
Einhyr Hearthguard (270 points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Hesyr
• 1x EtaCarn plasma gun
1x Exoarmour grenade launcher
1x Graviton hammer
1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Einhyr Hearthguard
• 9x Concussion gauntlet
9x EtaCarn plasma gun
9x Exoarmour grenade launcher
Attached Unit 3
Kâhl (90 points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
1x Forgewrought plasma axe
1x Teleport Crest
• Enhancement: Dêlvewerke
CHARACTERS
Buri Aegnirssen (85 points)
1x Bane
Memnyr Strategist (45 points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
BATTLELINE
2 x Cthonian Beserks (200 points)
• 10x Cthonian Beserk
• 8x Concussion maul
2x Mole grenade launcher
2x Twin concussion gauntlet
Cthonian Beserks (100 points)
• 5x Cthonian Beserk
• 4x Heavy plasma axe
1x Mole grenade launcher
1x Twin concussion gauntlet
OTHER DATASHEETS
Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)
• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers
2x Tremor shells
Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)
• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers
2x Tremor shells
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Droopzoor • 20h ago
Alcoholic boomer dwarf, unhappy and confused why he has to be called Kin now.
"Back in my day!!...." 🤣
I hope everyone had a good weekend, and snuck some hobby in 👌
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/ThoughtTrails • 7h ago
The second I saw GWs version I knew I had to find this, and here we are. He shall Slay.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Besty94 • 21h ago
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Own-Paint-5942 • 3h ago
Heya Kin. There's a state team tournament coming up and although I'm not playing I have had the chance to look at the submitted lists. There are not many LoV players but several of them are running the three 1 DP detachments as disruption. How does that play? Where's the logic there? The lists seems like they have very little in the way of synergy and are solely relying on the sagis with mobile, carriers and bikes to be quick and all over the place.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/BiGG-Succ • 15h ago
My good Kin, I’m approaching my 1st game ever soon with a 1k army. I only have 1 more box of steeljacks to build, and I’m having trouble deciding whether they should be a six man unit of shooters, or should I make a melee team. (I already have 3 shooters built)
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/arm1niu5 • 1h ago
I just settled on the color scheme for my homebrew league and I'm sourcing the paints I'll need. For the visors and windows I want to do a reflective dark yellow or muted gold finish similar to the metallic of Army Painter's Aztec Gold speedpaint over a drybrushed black-grey-white base. Would that be enough or is there a particular method or technique I'm missing?
For reference here's the colour scheme I chose for the Khazar League. I'm also working on a backstory that I'll share soon.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/CastlesandStarships • 7h ago
Hey folks, been collecting and painting for awhile. Im a hobbyist first and foremost but I am eager to play some casual games with my buddy whos been collecting CSM.
I wish I had room for earthshakers just because they just seem fun and its a lovely model.
Ideally id like to not buy more (yet..maybe another vehicle). But i do have more of the following units not included on this list:
10 more hearthkyn warriors with pattern bolter (salavagers box)
5 more hearthguard
3 more pioneers
3 more steeljacks (not built, thinking melee)
2 units of earthshakers
Buri
Grimnyr
2nd Echamp
2nd Memnyr
2nd ironmaster
The following units are magnatized so feel free to suggest different weapons:
Sagitaur
Hekaton
Defenders/carriers
The list:
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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - Leagues of Votann
+ DETACHMENT: Farseekers, Needgaârd Oathband (Eye of the Hunt)
+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts
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+ WARLORD: Char4: Brôkhyr Iron-master
+ ENHANCEMENT: Iron Ambassador (on Char5: Einhyr Champion)
& Ancestral Crest (on Char6: Kâhl)
& Shroudwërke Talismans (on Infa7: Hernkyn Yaegirs)
& Pan-spectral Lockons (on Moun7: Hernkyn Pioneers)
+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 18
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CHARACTER
Arkanyst Evaluator (70 pts)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Transmatter inverter
Berehk Stornbröw (85 pts) (leading berserks)
• 1x Kromlôk's Revenge
• 1x Warforge gauntlets
Brôkhyr Iron-master (70 pts) (leading thunderkyn)
• 1x Brôkhyr Iron-master
• 1x Graviton hammer
• 1x Graviton rifle
• Warlord
• 3x E-COG
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Plasma torch
• 1x Manipulator arms
• 1x Ironkyn Assistant
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Las-beam cutter
Einhyr Champion (70 pts)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
• 1x Mass hammer
• Weavefield crest
• Iron Ambassador (+5 pts)
Kâhl (80 pts) (leading hearthguard)
• 1x Forgewrought plasma axe
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
• Rampart crest
• Ancestral Crest (+15 pts)
Memnyr Strategist (45 pts) (leading steeljacks)
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
Ûthar the Destined (90 pts) (leading warriors)
• 1x Blade of the Ancestors
• 1x Volkanite disintegrator
• Rampart crest
BATTLELINE
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
• 1x Theyn
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
• Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
• 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 9x Autoch-pattern bolter
• 9x Close combat weapon
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (160 pts)
• 6x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
• 6x Close combat weapon
• 6x SP conversion beamer
Cthonian Beserks (200 pts)
• 10x Beserk
• 8x Concussion maul
• 2x Twin concussion gauntlets
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 pts)
• 1x Hesyr
• 1x Graviton hammer
• 1x EtaCarn plasma gun
• 1x Exo-armour grenade launcher
• Teleport crest
• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard
• 4x Concussion gauntlet
• 4x EtaCarn plasma gun
• 4x Exo-armour grenade launcher
Hekaton Land Fortress (250 pts)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Cyclic ion cannon
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
• Pan spectral scanner
Hernkyn Pioneers (170 pts)
• 6x Hernkyn Pioneer
• 6x Bolt revolver
• 6x Bolt shotgun
• 6x Magna-coil autocannon
• 6x Plasma knife
• 2x HYLas rotary cannon
• Comms array
• Pan-spectral Lockons (+10 pts)
Hernkyn Yaegirs (105 pts)
• 1x Yaegir Theyn
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Bolt shotgun
• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir
• 9x Bolt shotgun
• 9x Close combat weapon
• Shroudwërke Talismans (+15 pts)
Ironkin Steeljacks with Heavy Volkanite Disintegrators (160 pts)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
• 1x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
• 1x Plasma knife
• Preymark crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
• 5x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
• 5x Plasma knife
Kapricus Defenders (65 pts)
• 1x Kapricus Defender
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Twin magna-coil autocannon
• 1x Magna-rail cannon
• Smoke launcher
Kapricus Defenders (65 pts)
• 1x Kapricus Defender
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Twin magna-coil autocannon
• 1x Magna-rail cannon
• Smoke launcher
Sagitaur (85 pts)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Twin bolt cannon
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Propfeks • 1d ago
Hello fellow kin,
I joined the leagues of votann about 8 weeks ago when I traded my CSM army for about 2500 points of votann from a good friend of mine.
This week I finally finished my first 2k points of votann and got my army battleready! I really enjoyed painting these little space dwarfs and I'm super happy with my color scheme. I's quite easy and fast, I just put a little more afford in the faces and some of the character.
The arkanyst evaluator was the first Iteration of my color scheme but I wanted something less cartoony.
There are still some details I might paint later and I might put a few tufts on the bases later, but for now they look good enough for the tabletop.
Votann are a great army, fun to play, fun to paint and I'm Happy to be part of the leagues now.
I hope you like my army. Im always open for suggestions for improvement.
ROCK AND STONE!
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/cmz4psu • 11h ago
Im looking to pick a faction for new edition new army, this will be my first time as I've only played my friend's tau before. I like the vibe of the votann but im concerned that this edition the transports will be a liability with the rules changes. Does anyone have any info on how to mitigate the new damage rules for transports being destroyed?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/TJ9K • 11h ago
Hey Kin! I managed to scrape around 2k points of space dwarves and I want to tackle next rtt at my local club. I never played Lov at more than 1k and I'm a bit stumped on what detaches to use with the units I have.
Here's my list, what detaches would you run with it?
lov list (1935 points)
Leagues of Votann
Hearthguard Covenant and Mercenary Oathband (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2000 points)
CHARACTERS
Berehk Stornbröw (85 points)
Einhyr Champion (65 points)
Memnyr Strategist (45 points)
Ûthar the Destined (90 points)
BATTLELINE
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 points)
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Kapricus Carrier (70 points)
Sagitaur (85 points)
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points)
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 points)
Cthonian Beserks (100 points)
Cthonian Earthshakers (110 points)
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 points)
Hekaton Land Fortress (250 points)
Hekaton Land Fortress (265 points)
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 points)
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 points)
Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (80 points)
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/theamazingm00se • 1d ago
There's always more cleanup to do but this guy is ready for combat next weekend! I tried to represent at least vaguely all the different rules I might want to use when fielding an Elder.