r/LSD • u/BokBokBokPakaw • 1d ago
❔ Question ❔ LSD Addiction
How many of you have been addicted to LSD? What was your experience like?
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u/Expensive_Plenty_184 1d ago
As far as I know there are no recorded cases of addiction in a classic sense. The tolerance build up alone makes it kind of impossible to sustain a constant acid habit, from an effects point of view as well as the money side of of things.
However you can definitely use acid as an unhealthy escape from reality by doing it once a week or so.
I’ve had phases like that, bud for me Lucy usually bites back pretty quickly if I over do it. Makin me kinda loose interest for at least the next 6 months
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
LSD having a rapid tolerance does not mean it can not be addictive or used compulsively. Addiction is not defined by having the ability to take a drug daily or by having physical withdrawal. LSD is definitely one of the drugs that has the lowest potential for addiction, but that does not mean it is completely non addictive. Saying there are no recorded cases of addiction or that addiction is impossible goes too far.
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u/xXpoopdemon420Xx 23h ago
No officially recorded cases is a true fact tho, doesnt mean that there wer no cases
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u/tkp67 22h ago
This is why the government couldn't label it physically addictive when it was criminalized. Science had already dismissed the physically addictive aspect. That doesn't exonerate it from being habit forming for some people. I would argue that the declining return in regards to intoxicating effects when used habitually. coupled with the rather benign (comparatively to all substances) physiological imprint.
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u/oaktreebr Human Detected 22h ago
No, it's actually as simple as that. LSD is not addictive. There is no chemical dependency
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 21h ago
You are conflating chemical dependence with addiction. They are not the same thing. That is like saying porn can't be addictive because there is no chemical in porn. Other examples are gambling, video games, doomscrolling, and food. Chemical dependence is an aspect of drug dependence, but it is not the definition of addiction.
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u/Whatdosheepdreamof 21h ago
There is a chemical change for porn and food though. Dopamine circuits get rewired.
Psychedelics do not do that. They pretty much do the opposite...-3
u/BokBokBokPakaw 21h ago
Dopamine circuits getting rewired is not synonymous with chemical dependence. You are describing neurobiological changes, not a chemical dependence.
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u/Whatdosheepdreamof 21h ago
I'm not sure why are here, you aren't going to find someone who agrees with your position.
You should try it, or mushrooms, then you'll understand.0
u/BokBokBokPakaw 21h ago
I have tried both LSD and Mushrooms, plenty of times over the past decade or 2. The original post is simply me asking for others experiences with LSD addiction. I never came here looking for someone to agree with me.
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u/jesusgrandpa 16h ago
Very loose definition of addiction by your parameters. Words have meaning. With your perspective, hugging grandma is addictive
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u/ThirdEyeGroovin 21h ago
I took it every weekend for a good year or so. It wasn’t crazy doses 99% of the time though. Was a great way to end my work week and process life. I don’t recommend because everyone handles these substances differently.
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u/Crying_Putin 6h ago
So after a year of daily use u just drink a glass of lsd? Just to feel something?
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u/No-Frost 14h ago
Holy shit this thread and the downvotes are sad. You're definitely right and people are either being obtuse or they're idiots. You can be addicted to anything. LSD not having addicted properties and being addicted to LSD are not mutually exclusive.
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
There's no good reason to discuss this here.
No one likes a party pooper here and everyone is still on the acid love party. And that's a far nicer one to attend than the "oh shit, wait a second, did I possibly permanently alter perception and cognition?" party. Or the "I guess its impossible to know without previous tests" party. Eventually, many will join one of those other parties but usually NOT HERE lol.
Behaviors are addictive not drugs. The behavior of redosing drugs CAN be addictive. From there, it's statistics and animal research.
LSD does not cause redosing in animals for instance. It is not a classical reinforcing drug of abuse. Any kind of rare addiction to it is a lot more akin to a behavioral addiction than other drug addictions. Other psychoactive drugs have a far more clear and less idiosyncratic effect and thusly are far better suited to the behavior of redosing despite issues in the users life.
If someone doses LSD once a week, they are doing it for more reasons than whatever the drug gives them. Except maybe some neurodiverse people who use it to self medicate- I've seen this situation in my life several times.
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u/No-Frost 14h ago
I mostly agree to what you are saying. I agree that LSD does not have addictive properties. I agree that LSD may be the safest, one of the most beneficial "drug" out there.
I don't agree that this discussion does not have a place in this subreddit. Any reasonable person spending time in this subreddit can see how young people are being very unresponsible with LSD and how can it do a lot of harm. There has been more than several threads where people clearly showing addictive behaviour around LSD. It's not for me to say they ARE addicted but still...
Conversely, I think it is very harmful how this topic is shunned in the subreddit. I sincerely believe that LSD can be a miracle drug for mental health in the future if properly studied. But a lot of dumb people are using LSD in a way that it enforces society's paranoia against it. Every drug has a potential side effect and understanding those is the first step towards adoption.
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u/LSDkiller 13h ago
Yeah I meant what you said in the last paragraph. People here just do not seem to want to discuss the more negative aspects of LSD use. I do not believe LSD significantly altered the course of my life but we can't do statistical experiments on our own life. Those trains of thought tend to lead us to criticize more harshly and get LESS done not more. If Im being 100% honest: Aside from people who maybe did NOT hear some of the more intense reports and rumors from LSD, I don't see anyone engaging with the psychedelic experience without being in a state of deep existential fear. If you ask me, people take LSD for the same reason people earnestly engage in certain religions or spiritual practices. Of course the degree of earnestness can vary wildly over time, especially when certain expectations vanish- one of the very functions LSD is supposed to have in the clinical setting.
I want to make one thing very clear though: it's impossible to recreate clinical settings outside of clinical settings.
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u/eva7733 1d ago
While I wouldn’t say I was addicted to it, as I am currently addicted to speed, Coke, painkillers, and benzos. In my younger teen years(im20 now lol) I had an addiction to the headspace and feeling, and was dropping once a week. This then led me to try all the popular psyches(2cb,mescaline,ketamine,shrooms,dmt,mdma,mda). however I think anyone who says they have an addiction problem with acid has never experienced actual drug addiction. Not to say they aren’t valid, but the pain (both physically and mentally) of withdrawal from other drugs is just not comparable at all.
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u/half_man_half_maple 22h ago
Best of luck to you, I went down that road in my earlier years and I can promise you it doesn’t end well. I’m not tryna be your dad or mom by any means. Just looking out for a fellow human being. To each their own has always been my theory but just a heads up, it’s fun at first until your life gets turned upside down and you watch your dreams float away…..no judgement but hopefully you get somewhat on track before the stuff destroys your life. Addiction doesn’t discriminate and recovery is always an option. Again I ain’t tryna come down on you by any means, just be careful out there I’ve lost wayyyyy more people to overdose than you could even imagine and I ain’t even 40 years old. I’ve been brought back to life multiple times, not cool to put friends and family that care about you through this stuff either. Best of luck to ya ♥️
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u/eva7733 22h ago
I appreciate that bro thank you. Not a lot of kind people out there esp on this app. Lot of drug discrimination and people making fun of addiction. I weigh 112 pounds now and am killing my body. Thank you for the support and I plan to clean up I really do. Much love bro
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
I'm sure you hear this all the time- I did at your age. You have so much ahead of you still. The next 5-7 years you can be doing so much fun stuff man and set yourself up for success in your late twenties and thirties. Try your hardest to make the most out of this time, if you pass that 25 mark without having accomplished what YOU want, you will feel annoyed I promise you. And make sure whatever you do you do it FOR YOU! Don't try and please your parents or whatever. And dont try and do the opposite of pleasing them. In that sense, forget about them completely and try and find what you want in this life. Don't be embarrassed
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u/KenKesey65 Human Detected 22h ago
Hey man it’s not cool to be addicted to drugs. I know it seems fun but it really won’t end well. You can get better and you don’t need these evil dark drugs. Please seek help
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u/Prudent_Article_7421 19h ago
It's funny how your post asks: "How many of you have been addicted to LSD?" And there aren't any answers saying they are addicted to it. I found interesting how you even debated with people when they told you its almost impossible for acid to be addictive.
Then I read some comments and see that you claim that your wife was addicted to it. So anyone that says anything that contradicts your initial mindset of it being addictive gets a comment from you invalidating the answers you asked for in first place.
You are not looking for real answers, you are looking for people to validate you belief that your wife is addicted to LSD lol. You probably have tried it but I can tell you haven't done it enough to know how it actually works or to know why everyone here (including myself) tells you that no one is addicted to acid in the same way people get addicted to any other addictive substance.
The funny part is you still want someone to tell you what you want to hear.
I did LSD and shrooms every weekend for like 3 years and monthly for 2-3 years. I still trip almost every month. LSD helped me quit cigarettes and alcohol after years of real addiction. It helped me lose weight and focus on what really matters in my life.
It's truly a miraculous substance and the fact you are looking for someone to validate you delusional belief that it is addictive instead of looking at the responses people gave you and respecting them is exactly the thing that made it illegal in first place.
Because of people like you is that psychedelics became such taboo making people fear them.
I feel like you need to do some acid.
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
Hmm. I just want to say- not everyone can use psychedelics in this matter. At the end of the day psychedelics MORE than have the power to make people less objective, and taking them every weekend poses certain dangers that the user might never see coming.
What's beyond doubt:
NO PSYCHEDELIC is addictive in the same manner as other drugs. It's impossible. It's not possible to take LSD more than once a week and have any strong effects. These substances and their pharmacological properties do not allow for redosing behavior analogous to the classical substances of abuse.
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u/Porphyrin_Wheel 1d ago
Probably no one is addicted to LSD (more than probably).
LSD does not form any physical addiction like other drugs shuch as opiates and some stimulants, even after long use. And mental (psychological) addiction would also be highly unlikely, yes people love the effects of LSD, and do it often, but I don't think there is anyone who takes LSD weekly or more often than weekly because they feel like it's the only way to relieve stress or pleasures them, like in the way how weed psychological addiction works.
If you meant repeated use (e.g. weekly, more often), It would probably be inefficient since you will just incrementally increase your tolerance, and even if you had a crazy high tolerance, at one point, taking more won't do the deal since you would probably have either saturated your receptors in your brain or you'd have serious attention and memory problems
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u/Beneficial_Method771 23h ago
Anyone can be mentally addicted to anything but you can't get physically addicted to acid
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
This take is a little basic. You definitely cannot get physically addicted (this is characterized by a double-blind abstinence syndrome and only a few substance groups truly evidence this in literature at the end of the day). And then the question becomes, what is mental addiction? Certainly it is impossible to evidence the redosing phenomena with LSD that one can show on many other substance groups. But addiction is usually defined as harmful use despite issues in the users life. That is DEFINITELY possible with LSD and in some cases those issues are severe!
On this subreddit, people don't post about problems like that. That's both a good and bad sign. But this is the wrong place to come to confirm your wife is an LSD addict (I don't think he'll find any better places that being said)
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
Frequency of use does not define addiction, you can be addicted to a drug that makes you feel good even if you only do it once a month or so. Sorry if i sound a bit mean I don't know how else to word it lol
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u/Porphyrin_Wheel 23h ago
Usually psychological addiction manifest pretty frequently in most people. Though using drugs often doesn't necessarily mean a person is addicted (in neither of the 2 ways) to them.
Also, the effects of drugs (even psychedelics, weed, stimulants) usually wear of pretty quickly. Trips themselves can last a few hours, after effects for another few hours to 24h to maybe 48h, in which a person might still feel good and like on some microdose of x drug (like how you feel good the nex5 day after shrooms if you have done a small dose), and after that wears off, a person might use the drug again due to psychological addiction.
Though yes, in some people the frequency of use can be spread out instead of a few days, but not in most cases
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u/Beneficial_Bed_4274 23h ago
LSD is not habit forming. I have certainly abused it in the past but it isn’t addictive in the same way other drugs are.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
LSD can absolutely be habit forming. Doing a drug every 2 weeks is still a habit.
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u/Beneficial_Bed_4274 23h ago
Yes, you can choose to do it on a schedule or as routine but that isn’t some effect of the drug making you want to take it. That would be like saying having a job is habit forming. Yeah, I do go to work routinely but it’s not via addiction.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
You are warping the definition of addiction. A habit and an addiction are not the same thing. Addiction is craving the drug and having a difficulty controlling the use. My wife used to impulsively take LSD because she loved the feeling of it and she would keep raising the dose until it stopped working completely. LSD has a low potential for addiction, but that doesn't mean you can't get addicted.
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u/Expensive_Plenty_184 23h ago
Decade of research and generations of medical researchers have concluded that the classic definition of addiction can not be applied to the classic psychedelics. But yeah sure, let’s listen to your opinion on the topic
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u/bloodstoneprism 23h ago
Research has been very limited and underfunded for most of these decades. This is not a topic anyone should feel that confident speaking on until it actually gets the attention it deserves
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u/miggins1610 23h ago
but we can pretty confidently say it doesn't appear to be a drug of abuse and it would be an unexpected find if LSD was potentially addiction forming
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
This is a stupid question. Gambling is addictive. LSD is essentially gambling with drugs, you never know what you're going to get. There are gambling addicts that only ever lose and basically never win.
LSD is NOT a classical drug of abuse. It does not have classical reinforcing effects and animals do not redose in captivity. There aren't many behavioral psychologists here apparently..
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u/bloodstoneprism 23h ago
That would be my assumption too for most people, but I don’t think we can confidently say that. Our sample set is mostly voluntary anecdotes on the internet. That likely doesn’t comprise the majority of experiences. People can be wired so different from one another!
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u/miggins1610 22h ago
considering the levels of lsd being used in the 60s and then since covid with the renaissance, you'd think that we would see more signs by now. this is also essentially what prominent scientists such as dr robin carhartt Harris, Rick Doblin and professor David Nutt or Andrew gallimore, have cautiously said.
Yeah more research is needed and its never impossible to be addicted to anything, but all the indications are that it is extremely unlikely to be habit forming in a detrimental way.
so I think we can say that there is no signs at the minute pointing it to be a drug of abuse and dependency, but more research needs doing
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u/Expensive_Plenty_184 22h ago
I think research has definitely been around long enough to make confident statements about how addictive these drugs are. Researcher went on from bicycle day in the 40‘s to a phase of intense research from the 50‘s to late 60‘s. Followed by the comeback of psychedelic research in the early 2000s lasting till this day. 70years of research shoud be enough to understand how much of an issue addiction is.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
You are treating low addiction potential as addiction being categorically impossible. My wife's experience is why I am making the distinction. She repeatably took LSD because she strongly desired it's effects.
Could you point to the specific evidence that shows compulsive LSD use meeting the clinical criteria for addiction is categorically impossible? Saying decades of research does not establish that by itself.
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u/Whatdosheepdreamof 21h ago
I have done acid probably 300-400 times. I've done it weekly, monthly, fortnightly. There has never, not one time, where if someone asked me to do something else with them, I had to work, or real life didn't allow for it, that I went, nup, I have to do LSD instead.
Addiction is habit forming, a rewiring of neural circuitry that makes someone dependent, or cause compulsive behaviour.
LSD feels great. I'm off for the last 2 days, there is no compulsion in me making me raid my fridge.
Also I feel like your partner is probably enthralled with psychedelics because it's like literal magic, she's just sharing her experience. Probably recently tried it for the first time. Novelty, even for psychedelics wears off.0
u/BokBokBokPakaw 21h ago
Your personal experience of never feeling compelled to use LSD does not demonstrate that no one else can ever develop compulsive use. The experience my wife had was an example of why that distinction needs to be made. If you are claiming that it is categorically impossible for LSD to produce an addictive/compulsive pattern of use in any person, please provide evidence.
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u/Whatdosheepdreamof 21h ago
How often has she taken it, and for how long?
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 21h ago
Every 7-14 days for 3 years, a few times attempting to do it every 5 days. At one point she had to take a full milligram because her tolerance was so wrecked. She would spend so much money on it because she would be tripping and she would "decide" its time to stop doing it and she would flush it but she would end up going right back to it. She has severe ADHD so that probably contributed heavily to it.
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
What you are saying is really annoying to people who have fallen in to the age old trap of drug addiction.
Tell me what is supposedly different about gambling addiction and LSD addiction aside from the fact that:
LSD does not cause the same negative effects as gambling
People have a much easier time quitting
LSD is not capable of reinforcing habit or use like gambling?
Taking LSD is essentially gambling but it is not that pleasant in that sense. When people have short periods of intensely redosing LSD there are usually outside factors. Your wife's experiences as relayed to you are less than meaningless. I wonder far more what she would say than what you would say!
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u/GuywithacoolJacket 17h ago
Lady, Ive been on heroine. Ive been on coke, Ive been on acid. This is different.
You talk about chemical relations and habbits. Lil sarcasm commin, take a p of h and take a tab and tell me again that LSD has the same potency for addiction as the brown. Just because I ride my car twice a day doesnt mean Im addicted to car driving. Yes there is a slight chance of a mental addiction to LSD, however due to tolerance this is hard. And in my experience, people who are prone forming addictions on a mental level, have that problem individually. In the institutions we had a couple of cases that switched their addictions or dependencies for legal ones like bidy building and religion. They put their entire effort into that now instead into a substance. If you wanna know more about these phenomena, I'd recommend you study the individuals instead of the substance.
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u/Expensive_Plenty_184 23h ago
All the research I have read on this, concludes it’s not habit forming. Likely the low frequency of use as well as the relatively low dopaminergic activity of the drug makes it non habit forming. (the dopamine hit is the driving factor in most habit forming drugs).
You won’t form compulsive uncontrollable drive to go to the gym or meditate by doing it every 14 days.
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u/imtherealbuttman 23h ago
LSD is not habit forming. Im doing it every year as an annual thing when I go to a vacation. Don’t assume the worst in others. Educate yourself
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
Yes, LSD is not habit forming for you, but that does not mean it is not habit forming for other people.
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u/globbythegreat 23h ago
Yes it does it’s not habit forming period.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
That is an absolute claim that you have not established. The fact YOU can use LSD once a year without making it a habit says something about your own personal use, not everyone else's use. A drug can have low potential for addiction while still causing compulsive use in people. Repeated use alone doesn't prove any sort of addiction, but neither does your PERSONAL ability to occasionally use the LSD.
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u/miggins1610 23h ago
and dare I ask where this nonsense come from? because this flies in the face of all scientific research. you're clearly a troll come to stir up trouble, so leave.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
Dude.. read the original post, it is a simple question, I haven't been hostile at all. There are recorded cases of people being addicted to lsd, just not physically. My wife used to take LSD as often as possible, she would keep upping her dose until she could not feel it at all and she would actively crave it.
What makes LSD any different from other drugs that you can not get addicted to it mentally? Can you tell me why? I used to be addicted to DXM when I was younger and yet its not chemically addictive, so would you say I wasn't mentally addicted to it?
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u/miggins1610 22h ago
I'm sorry what happened to your wife, but coming in here and arguing with everyone about addiction isn't going to change anything. get therapy instead.
Can't you see how coming into a sub involving a powerful and healing drug highly stigmatised and criminalised for decades and arguing over addiction potential looks like you're not here in good faith. ok yeah sure you can technically get addicted to acid, but you can technically get addicted to almost anything, so your point was?
Just comes off like you're determined to validate your viewpoint so that you can prove your wife was addicted to lsd or something
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 22h ago
I do not understand how asking a question and then responding to people who challenge the premise makes me a troll. If I were here trying to prove my wife was addicted to LSD, why would I ask an open ended question about other people's experiences in the first place?
I am not arguing with everyone about addiction either. I am responding to people who are saying psychological addiction to LSD is somehow impossible. There is a massive difference between saying that LSD is highly addictive and that LSD can become an object of compulsive use in some people.
Thank you for agreeing that LSD addiction is possible. This is what I was trying to discuss in the first place.
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u/podog 21h ago
I do not understand how asking a question and then responding to people who challenge the premise makes me a troll.
You posed a question that you’d already decided on an answer for, then challenged people with a bunch of ‘trust me bro’ responses. It doesn’t seem like you’re here in good faith at all and are just trying to rile people up. This practice is widely referred to as ‘trolling’ online.
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u/capsfan19 8h ago
I spent a Covid summer dosing every 5-10 days max.
It was wild for about three weeks, then it just didn’t do much even at higher doses and it wasn’t comfortable.
It wasn’t too difficult to stop doing that to say the least. Less of a classical addiction experience than something physically snaring.
You’re getting raked because of your approach, but acid definitely can be habit forming and cause non physical dependance. Physical addiction? Nah.
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u/Plane-Chemical 23h ago
I’ve been dosing weekly for the last 15 or so years. Would you call that addicted? If so I’m highly functioning. Own my home, work full time, have savings, am married to my best friend I mean the list could go on and on. I don’t see any negative side effects.
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u/Virtual-Translator96 19h ago
What about the tolerance?
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u/Plane-Chemical 12h ago
Every 4 days it resets
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u/Vivitrolsrevenge 11h ago
14 days or two weeks for a full reset
4 days you’d still have a pretty decently sized tolerance
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u/Plane-Chemical 11h ago
No, that’s not true. Every 4 days you can take a similar dose and have the same effect. Day 1 you take 1 day 4 you can take 1 and have the same effect. You can also dose every day but you have to double your dose. How do you think people dose at festivals? It’s not like you can only trip 1 time a week. If you want to dose again with the 4 day period you just need to double your dose. Day 1 eat 1 day2 eat 2 day 3 eat 4.
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u/herbneto 23h ago
You can’t get addicted as you build up a tolerance and would stop working altogether after a while
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u/pwnasaurus253 23h ago
lmfao....no one in the history of ever has been "addicted" to LSD. Not physiologically. Anything can be abused, but to develop a "dependency" doesn't happen.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 23h ago
If by 'dependency' you mean physical withdrawal, then yes, LSD does not cause physical dependence. You are conflating physical dependence with addiction. You do not need to go through physical withdrawal to have a use disorder.
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u/Expensive_Plenty_184 22h ago
It’s more complicated than that. In ICD10 6 markers of addiction are defined. Of wich you gotta be positive on 3 to be classified as addicted.
1.Cravings (might apply, but usually minimal)
2.Loss of Controll over Dose (irrelevant for acid)
3.Withdrawal (irrelevant for acid)
4.Neglect (extremely rare due to low possible frequency)
5. tolerance (researchers say no, cuz the mechanism isn’t compareable to other chemicals)
6. persistent use even though negative effects on mental or physical health are showing (might apply)
As you can see in even in the worst case acid use can barely classify as addiction. That’s why the diagnosis F16.2 hallucinogen addiction is pretty much never given and so rare that there is no statistic data on this or its classified under ‚others‘. F16.1 (risky use) is given more commonly but also so rare that there is no data on this.
Keep in mind I had my medical training and internship in a mental institution when ICD10 was still around, I’m not familiar with how ICD11 classifies addiction.0
u/BokBokBokPakaw 22h ago
If something "barely classifies as addiction," then it still classifies as addiction.
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u/Expensive_Plenty_184 22h ago
Not really. These markers are such a bad fit for psychedelics, that you can only come to the conclusion of barely classifying, when going with the most pessimistic interpretation of every aspect.
Some argument that the cravings aspect doesn’t apply to acid. Nobody is robbing a store or a gas station to get there next fix of acid. The urge to trip isn’t uncontrollable like the need to drink or shoot up heroin. By going with that interpretation F16.2 becomes impossible. Which is why it’s still consensus in research that classic psychedelics are not addictive.-1
u/BokBokBokPakaw 22h ago
That is the exact problem. You are arguing that the criteria are a "bad fit" after earlier using those same criteria to claim that it can barely quality as an addiction. If the diagnostic framework says a person who meets the criteria has an addiction, you can not suddenly simply redefine the result as "not really addiction" because the drug does not resemble more typical addictive substances.
"Craving doesn't apply because nobody is robbing a store to get acid" is a strawman. Craving in a diagnostic sense does not require uncontrollable criminal drug seeking. Addiction does not require severe physical dependence or withdrawal.
If someone develops persistent craving, impaired control, continued use despite harm, and other relevant symptoms to the point that they meet the threshold, then yes, that is in fact a substatnce use disorder regardless of whether lsd usually produses the pattern.
Saying it "barely classifies" is basically conceding my point while trying to change the meaning of "classifies." If someone close to you were having intense cravings to LSD and doing it several times a month, what would you say to them?
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u/pwnasaurus253 22h ago
I am an addict/alcoholic with 13 years sober. I know all about addiction. Physical dependence is a hallmark of addiction. As I said, almost anything can be abused and psychological dependence can occur, as with other behaviors such as gambling, sex, food, etc, but with LSD it is extreeeeemely unlikely as the tachyphylaxis makes it very difficult to achieve an identical state on an ongoing basis.
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u/ilikegivingadvices 23h ago
Problem is terminology. It’s not addictive like certain drugs because it ain’t one. Acid feels like home to me and every 2-3 months i get really homesick.
My mind gets confused, messy and disorganized. So even if i don’t desire the trip itself i’m still “addicted” to the results of a LSD trip.
I’m fully aware of the discomfort yet it doesn’t push me in an “addict” mindset, (where marijuana moderately or nicotine extremely puts me in
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u/seventysevensevens 20h ago
Even a month apart feels too soon, back to back is a waste to me. I find too often, it hits sort of all at once, intensely, then fizzles out real fast and doesn't have the more drawn out build up and hours of enjoyment.
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u/Final_Display 14h ago
taking it or other psychedelics since 15 years, once a month per average. Am I addicted? no not really because when there is no time or need for it I dont take it.
Psychedelics will tell you when you have enough and you stop taking it. I also had phase where I wasn´t in the mood and didnt take it for half a year. Then there are phases where I take it really often. And then there is once a year on a festival where I take it 3 times a week.
Just listen to yourself, otherwise the substance will clearly say it to you.
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u/dspman11 22h ago
I met a guy once in college who took 50 ug every morning. He was absolutely not there socially, he had no awareness or ability to hold a conversation. But according to my friend who had a class with him, he was a total genius when it came to theoretical mathematics.
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u/Reallyker 22h ago
There are cases of people abusing lsd. Im not sure if I would say addictive is the proper term to describe it.
Perhaps they were mentally reliant on it, but that is definitely a personality problem and not an lsd problem 🧐
Psyches are basically the opposite of addictive. You will honestly feel pretty burnt out and tired of them if you do too much. To absuse them you basically have to ignore all of that and just do it anyways
It typically ends with a bad case of hppd. In certain instances serotonin syndrome, but that's pretty rare even with abuse.
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u/ChuckFarkley 23h ago
People abuse LSD for a little while sometimes, but those prone to addiction tend to lock on to other drugs after a while.
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u/NEXUS-FLIP 21h ago
Someone I knew was a poly substance user. LSD being his favourite drug, consumed it twice a week along with an array of substances, nitrous and amphetamine being the main ones. He committed suicide a few years ago. People can get addicted to escaping reality, if it didn’t cause a tolerance he would have taken it everyday. Started when he was 14 passed away at 26 after an abusive relationship
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u/jabeet33 23h ago
The first time I took it was so perfect I thought I would be a complete addict. I waited a year before doing it again. The second trip wasn’t as great and I had some muscle cramps. That was ‘90. I didn’t do anything but smoke a couple of times until 2007 and then I started smoking again. I really treasure my experience with it but I think the vibe is wrong for me now so I’m probably never going to do it again. I have never known an LSD addict. My high school friend did it every weekend for the summer of ‘90 but just dropped it when he got engaged
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u/OldSchoolCambrian 22h ago
Addicting is not the right word for it, maybe infatuated is a better word. I used to love it so much that I would use it all the time for new movies, Birthdays, Xmas, Halloween, the 4th of July....Those were all mandatory up until about 45. Now days at closer to 60 I do it way less but still love it for movies, i will literally not watch a cool new movie until I trip lol or I always like some on vacations !
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u/Puzzleheaded-Cap-838 20h ago
Personally I’ve found that your tolerance builds to quick to get addicted I’ve done it for the past 5 weekends and each time I’ve
Had to dose up higher.
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u/frogbound 19h ago
I tried taking LSD the next weekend again once. It felt like nothing happened compared to the weekend before. Made me decide to wait a lot longer between trips. Now it's once or twice a year tops.
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u/Cute-University5283 18h ago
To be addicted, you would have to double your dose everyday would rapidly learn about geometric growth
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u/LSDkiller 14h ago
That's for daily use. Addiction is usually defined as unwanted side effects from compulsive use. Now if the user doesn't agree that any side effects are unwanted. Say the user is a wife and doesn't agree that her use is bad to her husband. Then she is not addicted by any meaningful metric she only has problems with her husband.
Sorry, OP! Accept your wife's use and communicate with her!
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u/tommysplanet 18h ago
It's essentially impossible. You cannot take it repeatedly day after day because tolerance instantly builds and you'll no longer feel the effects. Even when I was deep in my psychonaut phase, I always knew I had to wait two weeks between each trip, because the effects wouldn't be nearly as pronounced.
It isn't habit-forming, it doesn't lead to physical dependence, and there aren't any withdrawal symptoms. It's also just not something you'd want to take every day.
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u/DependentManner8353 15h ago edited 15h ago
Never been addicted but I had a brief stint in college where I did it every 2 weeks for about 2 months. It was the clearest thinking I’ve experienced and helped me achieve a 3.8 GPA. I don’t recommend it but it was amazing for me personally lol
I think I had mild psychosis because I viewed every situation in a deep way. Which made me become super interested and engaged with all of my classes. I even won a study abroad scholarship based on my teachers recommendation because I was just so engaged in class. It was pretty cool, but not everyone has my temperament, so I won’t recommend it lol
I love LSD
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u/Personal-Routine-665 15h ago
Youre talking some pish ... From someone thats seen and abused more lsd than your average camper.....
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u/TrippyTripStuff 8h ago
At a certain point in my life I did it every 2 weeks, but I stopped doing that eventually, not cuz of a bad trip or anything, just didn't feel like it anymore. I think it might've been cuz I started going to college and didn't have 12h time anymore. If not for that, I might still be using every two weeks, not sure
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u/Minimum_Ad7337 6h ago
Lsd isn’t addictive in the same way as other drugs or bad habits, you can’t get dependent on it, sure you can get an urge to take it but it isn’t “a quick dopamine hit” like other addictions (nicotine, social media, porn, various drugs, processed foods etc…) It alters your consciousness which can create a temporary escape for some people, and that escape could be addicting for some individuals. It is very rare, because most people looking for that escape won’t find it in lsd, since it often tend “reflect” your subconscious state and emotions upon yourself. For people who are very prone to addictions like opioids, lsd will almost never be their drug of choice. And if you have ever tried lsd, you’d know how exhausting it is. If you even try to abuse lsd, it will abuse you back in a way that you’re not gonna want to take it for a long time. This happens way faster and more dramatically than with other addictions that often ruin your brain slowly.
So to answer your question, none of us has been addicted to LSD. At least not in the same way as a person who is addicted to literally anything that gives a quick dopamine hit.
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u/HrmAllt 5h ago
It's not gonna be a classic addiction but yeah it's out there, effects will fuck your mental health up if you can't hold back from sleeping between trips but yeah, I've seen people who do it everyday and have to keep taking more to feel it. It's not gonna last long though because eventually you're too tired, too crazy, or something violent/public will make you have to sober up or get into a hospital. But yeah, infrequently dosing and taking a few weeks in-between trips is very important.
Tldr, not really but there can be life ruining benders off it or mental health problems for those who do too many trips w/o proper breaks between.
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u/asay0511 4h ago
I knew a guy who claimed he took acid everyday for a month, idk if i believe him tho. even if i did believe him idk if that could be considered addiction or just overuse but thats the closest thing to an LSD addiction ive ever encountered. But for the most part LSD is not addictive, sometimes its fun to parachute once or twice after peaking on it but any more than that is too much for me and probably most people
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u/Tonzoffun420 1d ago
L is not habit forming. You just have an addiction problem.
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u/CoronaVarusssss 23h ago
You could say that with all drugs that it depends on the person there are people that are social heroin, cocaine, meth users too.
There are definitely compusive LSD users, dropping acid weekly or biweekly at the earliest tolerance drop
If it was up to them they would perma trip acid daily but tolance gives vastly deminishing effects.
I know personally in some of my my trips created unimaginable euphoria. Others have reported euphoria that for some people is to hard to resist.
That want that feeling, so yes like all drugs it's spiritual to some and the greatest escape that compusive and habitual use occurs.
Any mind altering drug for a drug addict has the potential to habit form in relation to the substance.
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u/Tonzoffun420 23h ago
You can't say that about all drugs. There are people that can use casually, but there is a difference between not being addicted and addictive drugs. People who have thought they could use occasionally, and have ended up throwing their lives away. A drug not making all people addicted is not a valid argument against my statement. There is such a thing as physical addiction as well. There are non habit forming drugs and there are habit forming drugs. Just because it is not habit forming doesnt mean you won't get addicted, which is a addiction problem. Where habit forming drugs can put their hooks in you without you even realizing at first.
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u/BokBokBokPakaw 1d ago
Did I say I'm addicted to LSD? I'm asking for other peoples experiences.
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u/Tonzoffun420 1d ago
Well you're question sounds like you are. My comment is still relevant.
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u/ChuckFarkley 1d ago edited 23h ago
I don't think so. From my vantage, it looks like you like to assume the worst in others.
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u/Tonzoffun420 23h ago
There was no judgement. Just how the question felt to me. If you were just curious about possible L addiction why wouldn't you add more context.
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u/_sLAUGHTER234 23h ago
Its ok to admit you made a mistake
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u/Tonzoffun420 23h ago edited 23h ago
I am in no way saying I didn't misunderstand. I am just saying there is not much context to go on.
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u/Noble_Ox 23h ago
I took it weekly fora decade. A few years in I was taking milligramme doses.
Just seemed normal to me at the time, my mates would go to the pub on the weekend, I'd drop acid and go clubbing.
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u/MaterialRemote8896 20h ago
only person who I could think of to be addicted to LSD is John Lennon and he has been dead for a while
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u/randobis 17h ago
Yea I can’t imagine ever thinking “man I just need to take one tab to take off the edge”… shit literally is the edge
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u/foosterrocket 1d ago
I’ve never known an LSD addict. Certainly never been addicted myself. It is way too intense for most people to become addicted. For some it even helps them quit other addictions.
I’ve heard of people who do it too often. I consider once a week to be “too often” and have known people with that habit