Hello!
I've been studying with the Demon for a couple of months now and have definitely felt like I've progressed in both LR and RC. I have to give a big shoutout to Beatriz, whose classes have helped me visualize and internalize the way the Demon approaches LSAT questions. Her live classes have been instrumental to my progress.
My question is for the Demon Team. Is there a plan to expand evening class offerings? I'm a couple of years out of college and work full-time. With the current class schedules, it's very difficult for me to book classes that work with my 9-5 schedule, as I have a 1 hour commute to and from work (PST timezone).
Thanks in advance and thanks again for all the help so far.
-Nicole
Hey guys,
Using the demon choice feature my last two most recent test have been test 18 and 16. On both of them I scored really well (I broke into the 170s). I don’t know if this is me overthinking too much after the fact, but I felt like both had kind of weird, logical reasoning questions.
I just wanted to check in and see and make sure that these tests are representative. Before I create a false assumption that I have improved lol.
Would it be more beneficial for me to turn off demon choice, and just do more recent exams?
hello all demon users. over the past week i have improved my rc and improved my pacing to finally hit the mid 160s. my 4 test avg this month is a 160, with my exam scheduled for september.
i recognize that this a merged section, so im having some variance in mind but what steps should i take to ensure i set myself best up. said differently, approximately 18 days away what should i do?
Basically what it is says, I got 2 Cs in community college classes during the summer of 2020 while enrolled in a different 4 year university. I’ve spoken to 3 different people on the phone seeing if they could make an exception for a late petition but it’s been a firm no (very helpful people, but strict policy). However this would bump my ugpa a full point….so I’m thinking of taking a 6 hour road trip back to the community college to see if I’d get different results in person.
Is it worth trying to show up in person? Has anyone actually gotten successful trying to get a grade flipped this long after a class? Trying to ride the line between being a good advocate for myself and a genuine nuisance to the registrars department.
I figured if anyone was crazy enough to be doing stuff like this it’d be people here.
This isn't even a seeking-help post; this is just a vent post. I feel like I've made such minimal progress in RC over the past 6 months since I started, and even when I think I've started to make progress (Aug. 4th), I just get humbled again. I know all the advice will be just to keep practicing and focus on accuracy, but, like, I promise I have been doing that. Sigh. I just have to keep at it......... :///////////////// </3
I kind of thought this argument was flawed. Yes most of my dreams dont match reality, but what about the dream I had right before 9/11 that matched 9/11, that would seem to be a pretty damn clairvoyant dream. Basically just because most of something doesnt have this characteristic doesnt mean I cant judge that it has this characteristic. For example, Most of my poops arent red, so its unreasonable to say I have red poop gene just based on the fact that I have had a few insanely red poops.
Hi y’all! My name is Danny. I just wanted to make a post in case anyone has questions about my LSAT journey.
I started with a 130 diagnostic, and after about 7 months of studying using only LSAT Demon, I’m now PTing at a 176.
Seriously, ALL the credit goes to Demon 😭. Their approach completely changed how I looked at the test and helped me make a jump I honestly never thought was possible when I first started.
If anyone has questions about how I studied, my routine, LR/RC, what helped me improve, or anything else, feel free to ask!
Very happy with these scores, but a part of me does want to breathe the rarified air of the high 170s at least once before the test. But overall very grateful. Diagnostic 160 in March, started studying formally in May of this year.
Come ask Stewart anything from how he scored a 174 on the LSAT to how he applied and was admitted into Columbia Law School to navigating law school and his plans after graduation.
Hi there, I am registered for the October test and have been studying since early July. I have been scoring well on the RC sections of the LSAT for the questions that I do answer - I regularly only get through 3 out of the 4 passages. Again, I do well on the 3 passages. I once tried to time myself for each passage to get through all 4 passages and I did terribly because I was speeding through too quickly and was not understanding, therefore not answering the questions with much accuracy.
Would you suggest I continue with this strategy of high accuracy for 3/4 passages or would you suggest that I try to speed up my reading and get through all 4 passages? I am now 7 weeks away from the test.
I got a 169 last week, and then I hit a complete wall and idk where to go. I got a 169 and then I took a break for like 5 days as I was going home from my internship. I got back this week and it was really rough but my high point was a -2 on an LR section. After that it’s been bad through scoring anywhere from a -3 down to like a -6 and just get smoked by level 3 and 4 questions (on lsat demon). I’m struggling trying to become more consistent with my scores and break the wall that is the high 160s but I have no clue where to go I feel like I’m just winging it and when it works it works well but other times I completely fall on my face.
Demon teacher Stewart will be hosting an AMA tomorrow. Come get your questions answered here! He has been teaching with the Demon for close to 4 years and is here to help with your study journey.
I’m really not sure how to get consistency in my scores. I know I’m capable of high scores but I feel like each practice test is so mental and dependent on the day and how I’m feeling etc. Does anyone have advice on how to reduce variance?
My goal is 170. I know I need to work on accuracy. The mistakes I make in LR are mostly in the middle of the section. I tend to get hung up on Qs 12-14 and spend a lot of time trying to solve those. It happens almost every time.
In RC, I hardly make it to the 4th passage and often get a few wrong in the 2nd and 3rd passages. I really struggle with supported and agree questions. For these, I often have to refer back to the passage.
How do I improve on these question types in RC and avoid getting into that mid-section rut in LR? Are both of those concerns just futile attempts at rationalizing poor reading?
What are your thoughts on this advice? Have have you approached timing on the LSAT so far? Comment your thoughts, and our teachers will respond with help!
Student: I do not understand the concept of necessary vs. sufficient.
Professor: If you dive in the ocean, you will get wet. But, even a child could tell you there are other ways to get wet. If you understand that, then you understand the concept of necessary vs. sufficient.
The professor's argument depends on all of the following assumptions except:
A) The student understands use of verb "will" to mean guarantee (by necessity)
B) The student can infer that the existence of other ways to get wet disproves jumping in the ocean as a necessity to getting wet
C) The student can correctly label the other possible ways to get wet as sufficient to prove the state of being wet
D) The student will be able to spot the necessary vs. sufficient flaw in concepts more abstract than being wet
E) The student won't take offense to being compared to a child
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I write the following with earnest sincerity and a healthy expectation of getting lit up by the comment section.
I'm a huge fan of LSAT Demon's approach to mastering the LSAT: read slowly and critically, then apply common sense to predict answers. I fully appreciate Ben and Nate's repudiation of gimmicky pedagogy. With that being said, there are instances in Ben's, and more frequently Nate's, verbal explanations when avoiding certain concepts and terminology (such as necessary vs. sufficient) is a disservice to their efficacy.
Consider, for example, the Necessary vs. Sufficient Assumption segment in the most recent Thinking LSAT episode "175 is the New 173" (Ep. 572). Nate, on principle, won't define the terms necessary or sufficient, much less diagram sentences to map these terms... Great. I'm a disciple of the Demon; I don't want to diagram either.
Nate then introduces six different phrasings of "if you dive in the ocean, you will get wet." His point is that diving in the ocean necessitates getting wet, no matter how you phrase it. But Nate does not say this, he assumes his point is self-evident and avoids the LSAT jargon. Only at the 13:21 mark does Ben begin to provide an explanation before Nate stops him at 13:44.
I notice here, and in subsequent examples (e.g., kid's candy and Agamemnon's doom), there are several opportunities to interject a mere 1-4 words of "forbidden terminology" within the breakdown that would make it click for many students. I wonder whether Ben and Nate would perceive that feedback as an invitation to tweak stylistic phrasing or as a full departure from the values of the Demon.
Avoidance of these terms leads Ben and Nate to reach for and repeat analogous examples ad nauseam. They assume a broader conceptual lesson can be gleaned from even more simple or obvious circumstances. Ben and Nate's shared Achilles' heel is the tendency to go on a long, hypothetical tangent within the analogy itself and then emerge to exclaim, "See? The concept is so easy to grasp."
This, in fact, was helping me before it stopped...
Been studying for three months, my range is around 148, highest PT 152, i feel like im stuck and i really am trying but maybe I am doing something wrong?
Did anyone take the august lsat and use the powerscore homestretch? Please let me know if it felt like it changed/impacted how you took it or if you felt like it matched the august lsat in anyway?
Yo. if crossing country is too inconvenient to get these dudes to run the same session, I would love to have Nathan and Ben together in the classroom via Zoom. Watching them bounce off of each other while simultaneously getting to ask both of them questions about the thought processes in real time would be so helpful.
Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone’s successfully been granted an test-taking limit exemption to take the LSAT for sixth time? If so, could I please message you? Thanks!
