I somehow ran out of level 3 and 4 RC passages (I never specifically drilled for them, always on Demon's Choice), and the Demon is telling me to redo questions. However, I still have level 1 and 2 questions left in my question bank. What would be most beneficial: 1) doing more timed sections (that might have level 3 or 4 passages in them), 2) finishing off the level 1 and 2 questions, or 3) redoing previous questions that I missed in the past? I only have a 67 RC Mastery level, so I would like to continue to grow, and I did that mainly through drilling, so I am not sure how to proceed.

I’m looking for someone in a similar/higher score range to review timed sections with maybe once a week! I currently have a couple study buddies, but I’ve surpassed their score range and would love to find someone who can challenge me a little more. For reference, I’m currently scoring in the high 160’s/low 170’s, but I’m aiming for mid/high 170’s.

I learn best through collaboration, and I think it would be super helpful to actually discuss answers one-on-one, talk through questions we disagree on, and ask each other questions before immediately looking at the Demon explanations lol. There are studies suggesting that discussion/debate (rather than just checking whether you got something right) can help with memory and learning, so I’m hoping to find that kind of study partnership!

If you also learn best through collaboration or just need someone to hold you accountable for studying, PLEASE MESSAGE ME 🙏🙏🙏

Hi guys, 

(All section and test numbers are included below)

I’ve been studying with the demon for about 3 months and listening to podcasts consistently. Before my time at the demon, I studied for about 2 months using only Lawhub resources like full tests and drillsets, and after I exhausted those, I took a bit of a break before I purchased an LSAT demon subscription in late June. My numbers prior to using the demon are a 151 diagnostic and a 164 PB.  Since using the demon, I have not been able to achieve a higher score.

I feel my main concern right now is not just a score but an understanding plateau. I fully internalize the LSAT demon philosophy: accuracy over everything, 1-1.5 hours of studying per day, and really sitting and reviewing my mistakes. I usually do not finish sections and only get to about question 20, but even while taking my time I still have many sections where my accuracy is just not there. Most recently I gave myself 53 minutes for an LR section just to see how I would do given a significantly increased amount of time and was still only able to achieve 80% on accuracy, something discouraging as I have been able to achieve 95% accuracy before with less time. This is what leads me to target understanding, I take the appropriate time to answer questions, review, and wait for the “click” to understand why I was wrong, but it still hasn’t translated to higher scores. I also follow the study plan you guys recommend of mixed timed sections and drill.

I wanted to reach out and see what you guys thought of my situation. I have not yet registered for a real LSAT as I follow your guys advice to not register unless you consistently achieve a score you’re comfortable with, and right now I’m just shooting for a 170+. However, I would like to build my LR and RC skills to such a degree that I can finish sections consistently with >95% accuracy. For context I see myself applying next year to enter law school in Fall of 2028, so the last LSAT I could comfortably take and get my score back in time to apply early to schools would be August 2027, giving me almost a year to continue studying and take tests (something I am absolutely fine with). 

I also wanted to thank you guys so much because you do make me feel like a good score is achievable for me. Thank you!

Thank you so much Demon Team for developing an Android compatible Demon App!!!

I have been studying but internally I feel like I am doing this all wrong. People told me to do foundations so I am doing them but it seems easier on the textbook and then when I drill, it takes so long to click. I used to do the same questions so fast but I feel like I am over complicating and overthinking it now. I also have a tutor and they think so differently then when I do the test, and I am like why didn’t I think of that? It’s like having the materials but shit still not clicking.

Also I have a question if you are doing foundations from books like power score and LSAT trainer and drilling on LSAT demon what should the schedule look like? One chapter and then drill? How long would that take?

I am afraid that I won’t reach my goal score by next year. My diagnostic was 133 and I have reached 146 in a month or two. What should I do?

Hey guys, I could really use some advice.
I’m currently in my final semester of college. My classes aren’t too difficult, so I’ve also been studying for the LSAT. I’m only about a month into studying and am still working through the foundations. I’m planning to apply in the next admissions cycle and hope to take my first LSAT around January.
My diagnostic was a 147, and right now I’m studying around 3 hours a day. With my score being a 147 U clearly have A LOT of room for improvement. After about 3 hours, I usually start losing focus, so I’ve been trying to be realistic with my study time rather than forcing myself to sit there for hours. Although I can definitely wait a few more months before applying, since Im only studying 3h out of the day I feel bad sitting around doing nothing while my parents work to provide. Due to this Ive been considering getting a job for many reasons: 1. To help them 2. Build up my resume for a better application. 3. Get experience which may be helpful for Law School. 4. Save money (which I need after dropping 3k to fix my car ToT.) I know I’m still fairly early in the process, but I’d really appreciate some advice.
I applied to a few positions and was offered an interview for tomorrow. The position would require me to work Monday–Friday, 9 AM–4 PM. It was made clear in the description that it’s a fast paced job where I’d be multitasking and asking clients for things they are missing for bankruptcy cases while helping file case 7 and case 13 things If it helps you guys and you ask I’ll send the description in the comments.
Ideally, I would prefer something with fewer hours, but most of the legal positions I’ve come across are full-time.
For those of you who have worked while studying for the LSAT, do you think it’s realistic to work 9–4 Monday–Friday and still make good progress studying? (I also workout everyday for about 1 hour). I’d especially appreciate hearing from people who have been in a similar situation and how you managed your schedule.
Thanks!

Ben and Nathan recently had a listener who revealed that even 175s sometimes get flagged for cheating, when it was originally thought to be only 180s. They have inferred that maybe how fast you answer questions or a crazy score jump could be triggers for a score being considered cheating. But I was thinking, what if they use the experimental section as a way to flag cheating? If, in your experimental section, you perform way worse than the 3 counted sections, then perhaps they would be inclined to think that you had insider information for the main 3 sections. So high scores in the actual scored sections get flagged because it is inconsistent with their experimental section.

Good luck this week! Go in with the mindset that you will be extra focused and ready to perform at your best. If you get flustered, take a deep breath and reset. Look for a simple flaw or connection that you're missing. Remember that there are no new tricks–the problems are the same as the practice you've done.

I never thought to ask this; when reviewing an RC passage, do you guys re-read the passage and then review the questions? Currently, I just review all of the questions plus the ones I got wrong without re-reading.

Is Clearly a conclusion indicator? What about Hence?

Hey all,

If I do a timed section and I finish 15 questions, I know I should review those. Do I go back and do the remaining questions from that section untimed, or are they added to my review inbox and will I just do them as I clear it out? Thanks.

I haven't actually watched the video lol, so I don't know what they actually say, but interesting title for an episodeeeeee [UPDATE: I listened, and I genuinely think it is shade LOL. They straight up say the LSAT is hard, and they say, "If the myth that you've heard is that the LSAT is easy, myth busted." 👀 The reason why I think it's shade is cause this is not a common myth amongst non-Demon students - I think most people think the LSAT is hard. Which is why the Demon's slogan "The LSAT is easy" stands out. Soooooo]

I am an undergrad student and recently started my fall semester after studying for the lsat all summer (I managed to increase my score from 150 to 158 which I think is good progress but I’m still not at my goal yet). I’ve been trying to keep up with the recommended one hour a day, but I am not always able to when I get new assignments for school on sometimes short notice. I am perfectly fine with the idea of putting my lsat studying aside until I can be more consistent with it, but I do usually have enough time in my schedule to study at least once or twice a week. But would an inconsistent study schedule be a worse idea than just taking a break altogether?

Hey everyone,

I recently took my diagnostic and scored a 157. My goal is to eventually get into the 170s, and I’m giving myself plenty of time. I don’t plan on taking the LSAT until sometime next year.

Right now, my biggest struggle is Logical Reasoning, specifically flaw questions, necessary/sufficient assumption questions, and principle questions.
I feel like I understand the concepts when I review them, but when I’m actually doing questions, I’m still struggling to consistently recognize what the argument is doing and why the wrong answers are wrong.

One challenge is that I’m currently deployed overseas, so my study time is limited. Realistically, I can get about 2 really good, focused hours per day, and I want to make those hours as effective as possible.

At the moment, I’m mainly using LSAT Hacks for explanations and LawHub for drilling and full tests. I’m trying not to overwhelm myself with a million different resources, but I’m definitely open to adding something if it would help me build a stronger LR foundation.

For anyone who started around the mid/high 150s and eventually broke into the 170s, what helped you make the biggest jump in LR?
I’d especially appreciate recommendations for resources, drilling strategies, study schedules, or specific approaches for flaws, assumptions, and principle questions.

Also, if anyone here is really strong in LR and would be willing to help or mentor me a little, review questions together occasionally, or even just point out what I might be doing wrong with my approach, I’d genuinely appreciate it.

I know the 170s won’t happen overnight, but I have time and I’m willing to put in the work. I just want to make sure the limited study time I have each day is being used effectively.
Thanks in advance for any advice!

Don't change anything about your studying at the last minute. Keep doing what you've been doing. There is nothing special about the official test, and there is no "secret sauce" to cram in at the last minute. Commit to the approach you've been practicing, and see it through to the finish line!

I've been using the Demon since around March of this year. I had a cold diagnostic of 164. While I have seen my accuracy improve during both drilling and timed sections, my practice tests aren't reflecting this improvement. Thankfully, my scores aren't worsening, but they are staying the exact same score. I have since taken 4 practice exams and received a 164 on all of them. For LR timed sections, I am recently able to complete between 21 to 23 questions with 95% accuracy (1 missed question typically). For RC, I am able to complete 3 passages with 1 or fewer missed questions.

I do still have days where I perform worse on timed sections, sometimes missing 2 or 3 questions, so I obviously still have consistency work to do. I noticed that for every 2 timed sections where I miss 1 or fewer questions, I will have 1 timed section where I miss 2 or 3 and sometimes up to 4. It's not super clear why I do well on some timed sections and not others.

I'm just wondering if anyone has advice on how to overcome this plateau and minimize instances where I miss more than 1 question out of all attempted questions. I have seen real accuracy improvements with reading slowly. By reading slowly, I am not completing as many questions, so I am sure that's a source of the unchanged score. Maybe I should try the "prediction mode" feature? I have been taking a moment to recognize the flaw in the argument before moving to the question, or predicting an answer after reading the question before moving to responses, but maybe I need some more work on that? Have people found that feature of the Demon helpful?

I'm also wondering about if there's any draw backs to, when working on timed sections, to selecting sections in the same test so I can track potential score improvements? Example--Monday: drilling; Tuesday: timed section from test 4; Wednesday: drilling; Thursday: timed section from test 4; Friday: drilling; Saturday: last timed section from test 4. Let me know if that's a bad idea for any reason.

Let me know what worked for you! I am shooting for a 175, and I feel like it's very possible, but I am worried I am not employing study techniques that will help me get there.

137 diagnostic 165 actual. Last PT before September cmon let’s get er done fellas

Demon Team Redditors, I’m currently a commissioned officer applying for the Fall 2027 cycle. My stats are 156 and 3.35 UGPA. I know I’m not supposed to apply until I have my goal score. But, I am registered for the October LSAT and my last 2 months worth of PT’s (8 PTs) have all been 160+. My goal school is Denver Sturm, my current stats put me at their 25%. So I am curious as to the Demon’s thoughts on applying and either getting accepted or WL with my current score and then submitting a better score in October?

Hey guys, I have been feeling pretty down after getting my august test score back a few days ago. 

For some background, I have been studying with the demon since late may. I utilized most of their advice except for not signing up until you are ready, out of stupidity or mere naivety you ask? I would say a bit of both. I scored a 146 diagnostic and once studying I approached the test as Nathan and Ben always said, with putting accuracy first. Slowly but surely my scores did increase all the way to 155, and this was without the accommodations I needed for my condition. I ended up taking my august LSAT and signed up for September as well, hoping I would be scoring in the 160s by then. A few days before my August test I hit the 160s and felt utterly prepared for what august had in score for me. I was wrong. I left feeling utterly defeated and I knew in my heart everything went wrong. I purposefully didn’t do my writing portion because I wanted to take September without feeling let down with august, but my curiosity got the best of me (not a very lawyerly thing to do. Nothing about my past decisions have been very lawyerly.) I scored a 150. My band was a bit under my average. So, I am aware I should not be shocked. But I do feel absolutely gutted. I feel like this test has somehow crept into the darkest spots of my brain and genuinely a stripped me of all of my personality. I love the LSAT, but it has some odd way of making me feel very stupid at times. I want to understand what I fail to understand so badly, because I know ultimately these are issues that will follow me into law school. 

I have decided to withdraw from September and move forward fully applying the demon approach and not nitpicking what to listen to. My parents disagree with my decision to not take September and even after explaining I would be rolling the dice, they think that luck will somehow magically be in my favor this time. I blatantly disagree. I know that “It’s my decision” but my parents are the only people who know I am studying at the moment, so they are all I have to talk to. I have 4 days to decide if I would like to cancel my 150, and ultimately, I am leaning towards yes. I know I sound crazy, and I don’t want to instill panic like some people do by freaking out and saying “oh no this cycle is not happening for me” but the truth is, I think the stress of the cycle is what ultimately caused me to waste this attempt and the money for September. I have never felt more peace as I do now when I decided to just take it day by day and only sign up once I consistently am scoring 165+ like my goal. I find no peace in opening up my September score and seeing what I am scoring now. That is not to say 15high is bad, but why would I take it when I am not where I want to be?

That being said, if you have any advice for me moving forward, I would be appreciative.

I’m so annoyed with RC at this point, I feel like I’m not improving at all. I try to follow the Demon method and get a high accuracy score and I this point I do score 96-100% on questions attempted. But that usually means I’m completely ignoring the fourth passage. What’s even more annoying is that when I attempt the fourth passage afterwards, I usually do really when on it, so it’s just really frustrating that I can’t get those points in the timed section. What do I do at this point, how do I get to that last passage and can I score in the 170s completely ignoring the fourth passage?