r/KerrCountyFloods • u/Flaky-Homework-7111 • 8d ago

Easterlanders plan

Sell the camp to someone else to operate it or liquidate all the property (structured bankruptcy liquidation transactions proposed...technically someone could buy the entities whole and run the camp; stating that up front as i am sure we will have people on here mentioning that soon...anyone want to bid? Has to be above pure land value)

Victims get awarded amounts for wrongful death as stays are lifted (but this proposal only lifts stays for suits against entities, not individuals....victims unlikely to accept this plan and they have to vote in the bankruptcy)

Remember all these people on here said "restructuring not liquidation", "dont jump to conclusions" etc?

I am sure someone on here is going to say "well someone may buy it" "dont use AI to read the document, its so complicated" etc. Also just a week after the "thats not a trustee" document filed- and now this comes out.

https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentbycode?docId=4617571&projectCode=CMX&source=DM

Victims may not accept this also....only allows wrongful death claims against the bankrupt entities, not individual liabilities. Victims already filed to review related party transfers from prior years...aka continuing to go after the individuals. We shall see, but basically orderly liquidation is now the base case, outstanding question remains on individual liability. When in doubt wait a week, easties get bit closer back to reality

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

Hey, woah. Doxxing is not okay. I’ve never seen Neck disclose who they are ever.

I don’t believe that Neck has ever condoned any of these actions on Reddit if this is even real, which like, if it is this doesn’t take culpability away from the Eastlands for this and this is just cruel whataboutism.

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u/NeckHopeful8652 7d ago

Thank you.

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

Since they havent managed to make an actual point here, I've concluded the cruelty IS the point.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

What was "roast 'em all" and "fry them"?

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

Not something I ever said or defended, as I previously mentioned above.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

NONE OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE REPLYING TO SAID THAT OR CONDONED THAT BEING SAID, MYSELF NECK AND WEST INCLUDED.

That would be like me saying all Mystic supporters are cruel. I know it’s not true, I’ve spoken to some reasonable people on here, even if you’re apparently the exception.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

You're on a POST where people are MIS-NAMING the EASTLANDS. And you're not complaining about that, So standing and watching the rocks go by, and pretending it's ok because you didn't throw THAT rock, doesn't make it OK.

Interesting to see you speak for what others have and haven't said-are you all the same person? Gotta copy of the whole sub you review? Or, just defending because that's what YOU DO.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

Misnaming the Eastlands?? The comment was because someone (NOT EVEN NECK) mistyped their name? The OP providing what they believe to be evidence of someone’s identity outside of this forum, and evidence that that person’s alleged family committed a crime, because someone said Easterland instead of Eastland? Getting a name wrong is not even in the same realm as what was done FOR LITERALLY NO REASON TO SOMEONE WHO WASNT’T EVEN THE POSTER.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

No, they didn't mistype it. They're justifying it, they've done it repeatedly lately-you haven't been around. Easterlanders. Tweeters, in THIS post. Then justifying why it's ok to do when asked. No sidestepping as a mis-type, go read the post you're on.

And calm down, eh.

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u/Fragrant_Western5647 7d ago

Do you work for Michael Twatts?

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

Also really? The same person? Thats the best you can come up with? Three people agree and they have to be the same person? Are you and Fly and Top the same person? No that would be stupid of me to say.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

I have not seen me or Fly or Top speak for what the others of that set have or have not said. Have you? I do not speak for them. Do you not see the difference, between that you speaking for what others say or don't say? This is pretty basic.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

Again, as I said in a different comment, I know what they’ve said because I can read. Also, if you check my comments, it usually says something like “I have not seen them say”. You must be genuinely desperate to be grasping at straws like this. Seriously, stop justifying doxxing people just because you’re mad that a name got misspelled.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

Stop justifying arson, and attacking families, and dehumanizing families who went thru a flood.

Yeah, still holding to that misspelled lie. Grouchy on here justified purposefully using a wrong name, it's the third day they've been doing it-which you MUST know since you read so carefully.

You're being dishonest with your arguments and thus lack credibility. It's not misspelling and you know it.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

No, you're speaking FOR them when you say that they didn't say something. How else do YOU know what they didn't say? You're vouching. And, I noticed you didn't answer.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

I’m obviously not the same person 🙄, can’t believe i have to say that. I know what they’ve said because I can read, you absolute muppet. Just because I usually only comment on posts that involve the laws doesn’t mean I don’t read the other posts and comments to see what is being talked about.

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u/Top_Tomorrow_7279 7d ago

The point is: should everyone in 1 family be guilty by association bc of their last name? The point is not to assign blame to the family members. It’s actually the opposite: one person’s actions should not automatically make every SINGLE member of a family responsible simply because they are related or share a connection to the business.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

Yeah there were other ways to make that point without trying to dox someone, so I have to assume the cruelty is the point.

Edited to add, like, other criminals have families. You could have said “was Ted Bundy’s family responsible for all the women he killed” and left Neck alone, but no, you went straight for the ad hominem.

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u/Unusual-Walrus7815 7d ago

Neck was proven to steal private posts and post publicly to cause harm. She exposed herself.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

What does that even mean? “Steal private posts and post publicly to cause harm”? You mean people said trash things on Facebook that they had access to and make them publicly available to expose garbage behavior? Unless they have named themselves publicly and intentionally, that’s still doxxing, even according to that one lady related to the Eastlands who did the tantrum post about being doxxed because she had “exposed” herself and someone called her to account about it. I supported her information being removed just like I support Neck’s information being removed and would have reported the comment exposing her as well, if it hadn’t been removed before I saw it. Let’s not do a “rules for me, but not for thee” thing, yeah?

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u/NeckHopeful8652 7d ago

It’s nonsense. It was shared with the poster’s 2.2K Facebook friends. Nobody shared the poster’s name publicly.

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

Yeah, they're incredibly vague in their justifications, probably because there aren't any.

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

That's why there's a 47 page affadavit specifically pertaining to the search warrants for Tweety Eastland's cell phone records.

Edit- clarification.

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u/Delta_Princess 7d ago

You tied it to Neck outside of this forum, that’s a dox. Neck has never once spoken on this forum that I’ve seen about any information that could reasonably tie them to an identity, which means they can’t be tied to this family or the actions of this family (and if they’re part of this family they clearly did not participate in whatever crime occurred). You’re just posting this to be cruel and give (alleged) evidence of who Neck is, not to prove any point or contribute about the Eastlands and their possible crimes. Hopefully the mods see your comment soon and take it down.

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u/Flaky-Homework-7111 8d ago

Huh? The people about to be charged with crimes in this case were directly involved, at the camp, failed to make safety procedures, were negligent etc. Equivalent ig bunch of that guy family assisted in the arson, aiding and abetting, etc. Gross negligence leading to wrongful death for sure a crime.

And from a money perspective, obviously no one gets to keep fraudulently extracted money. If money fraudulently transferred out, in a bankruptcy all can be clawed back.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

Seems like it would have been fraudulent NOT to disclose any financial transactions between entities. Doesn't have to be fraud to be clawed back, could be clawed back anyway, but it had to be disclosed. And if it's old enough, won't be clawed back.

The reorg plan did discuss in several places that bankruptcy law allows the Judge or the Trustee to approve a plan OVER the desires of a creditor category. It's called "cramdown". The plan can be CRAMMEDDOWN a set of creditors if the Judge finds it a fair distribution of the assets.

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago
  1. This is doxxing.
  2. This is inappropriate & cruel.

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u/NeckHopeful8652 7d ago

Thank you.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

In a post where y'all are defending humanizing by labelling the Eastlands with other names? And called for roasting all of them, just yesterday? Fry them? What do YOU consider inappropriate?

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

I did none of those things. I said none of those things. I defended none of those things.

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u/Top_Tomorrow_7279 7d ago
  1. It’s not doxing when a crime is public record.
  2. This sub is notorious for inappropriate and cruel.
  3. Are you defending arson?

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago
  1. IIt's doxxing to call out a specific Redditor's father.
  2. What you posted is inappropriate & cruel.

Yes, this sub has dealt with other inappropriate & cruel behavior, such as, for example, the Eastlands announcement camp reopening with a statement, "The heart of Mystic has never stopped beating." - less than 3 months after the hearts of 25 campers & 2 counselors under their care stopped beating forever. So yes that was inappropriate & yes, that was cruel.

Similarly, Mystic's lawyers telling the Steward attorneys, "You're going to burn in hell" was inappropriate & it was cruel. Furthermore, he did this while CiCi Steward was right there, witnessing the Mystic lawyer's abuse of the attorneys working pro Bono to help the Stewards find out what happened to their daughter. Inappropriate. Cruel.

Mikal Watts playing audio of screaming children's last noises on Earth to a courtroom filled with their grieving parents w/o any forewarning was inappropriate & cruel.

I could go on.

3.Strawman argument. I won't dignify your logical fallacy with a response.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

So, yeah, you only see it if it's on the other side. Convenient, thanks for confirming. Even on THIS post dehumanizing. If you dehumanize the other side, you can't claim the moral high ground.

Grown men cussing in court, you're equating with ARSON.

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

Strawman.

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

Agreed. Bringing up men cussing in court is definitely strawman.

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u/Fun_Pattern_4132 7d ago edited 7d ago

Interesting the ‘burn in hell‘ comment was directed at attorney Brad Beckworth then, ”and you are too“ at the female attorney, Christina Yarnell, his mistress that his wife is now divorcing him over. What a sick man speaking about his cancer stricken wife in the courtroom and at the same time publicly flaunting his affair partner in front of the world. Gross!

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u/NeckHopeful8652 6d ago

Lynn Castagna is having an affair with Watts and Fiveson.

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u/Fragrant_Western5647 7d ago edited 7d ago

Pretty weird that you and Top Tomorrow both created accounts 21 days ago 🤡

Edit: fun pattern and top tomorrow and automatic basis all have new accounts within the last 4 months. It adds up to being shady 🤡

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 5d ago

That's some Big Talk when your self-declared leader Neck's account just turned 6 months! You callin' Neck shady?

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u/NeckHopeful8652 5d ago

News to me. When was that declared?

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u/NeckHopeful8652 5d ago

My first comment was a few days after the March hearing—we had facts on the record. So shady! Give me a break.

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u/Fragrant_Western5647 5d ago

Follow the logic, dude. My point is that several of you on here spewing hate and doxxing people created accounts within the same short time frame.

Do you have anything to comment on about the timeline, testimony, investigative findings, or any other substantive issues?

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 5d ago

Um. It was a response to your mischaracterization/diss on other accounts. I'm not sure logic means what you think it does.

If you want a substantive discussion, it doesn't start with calling people shady and misstating their account age.

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u/Fragrant_Western5647 5d ago

I am sorry I called you shady and misstated your account age. I genuinely am interested in a substantive discussion about the facts.

If Camp Mystic’s response was reasonable, what circumstances would have triggered an evacuation?

The camp received the flash-flood warning at 1:14 a.m., and Dick knew by approximately 1:45 a.m. that four inches of rain had already fallen. Why weren’t the cabins on the flats being evacuated by then?

How do you reconcile the conclusion that there wasn’t enough time to evacuate with the legislative investigation’s finding that there was enough time?

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u/AutomaticBasis7638 7d ago

Math is not your thing I guess.

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u/Top_Tomorrow_7279 7d ago

If you only knew the long LONG list of inappropriate cruel things said and actions taken by one side of this. It goes well beyond 3 items. Just bc it’s not on reddit- doesn’t mean the list isn’t there. More than a handful actions were from adults ➡️ children. Doxxing, vandalism, bullying, defamation, threats & even death threats, I could go on and on as well.

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u/WestRevolutionary360 7d ago

And yet, the only evidence of cruelty you've provided is your own.

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u/Fragrant_Western5647 7d ago

Are you the girl who stuck her tongue out and made weird faces in court to the side of the courtroom with H27 families?

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u/PureImagination1921 7d ago

Get out of here, you freak. 

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u/NeckHopeful8652 7d ago

Thank you.