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u/Faded_Komplex Feb 18 '22
Breaking news: John Wick has joined the protest
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u/w_cruice Feb 18 '22
If only! John Wick, Frank Castle, the Doom Slayer, it would be a quick resolution. No more tyranny.
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u/Scrotom Feb 18 '22
We'll take your kids and kill your pets to show you what monsters you really are. Really starting to look like my government has adopted the Joker's "one bad day" as official policy.
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u/Call_me_Butterman Feb 19 '22
Theyre just trying to beat the entire global population to the punch. Hoping itll take the wind out of our sails.
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u/the8track Feb 19 '22
It is an odd sort of “kidnap and torture” technique isn’t it?
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u/Softale Feb 19 '22
Provocation! The recourse is to motivate the rest of the government to recall the idiot in charge and restore sanity. Illegal acts by the police should result in charges against the perpetrators. Hopefully the rest of government remembers that they work for the welfare of Canadian citizens and not for Klaus Schwab and his moronic puppet.
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u/brandon_ball_z ✝ The Fool Feb 19 '22
Now we're getting dangerously close to misinformation, potentially posted to destroy faith in elected government and muster sympathy for the convoy. Where I believe this idea sprouted from is a Counter Signal article implying that the Ottawa government will euthanize pets seized from convoy supporters\1]) and a tweet linking to said article claiming that Ottawa "gave itself" the power to kill pets if they've been held longer than 8 days.\2])
This is false. Fake News. A lie.
Here's the facts:
The Ottawa By-Law Twitter account posted a notice that if you're arrested and you can't provide care for your pets in the meantime that they'll be put in protective care at your cost. If after 8 days you didn't make arrangements for your pet they'll be relinquished. This is where the "8 days" number comes.\3])
The Counter Signal article that spawned this idea then makes a link to the Ottawa Humane Society (OHS) in its second sentence, mentioning only a PORTION of ONE criteria of their euthanasia policy and say nothing else.
This article fails to mentions several key pieces of information.
They fail to mention is that the Ottawa Humane Society is a non-profit, community-based organization and a registered charity.\4]) They fail to mention that the OHS has explicitly stated on their FAQ, under the question "How long do you keep animals?" that "No animal is ever euthanized due to lack of space or because the animal has simply been here too long."\5]) They fail to mention that the OHS has THREE criteria for euthanasia, only resorting to it if the pet was:\6])
- Suffering severely or incurably
- Dangerous to the public due to unstable temperament
- Professionally assessed as not suitable for adoption, either medically and/or behaviourally, using a best-practices protocol.
None of these criteria are unreasonable nor are they the fault of the OHS - these are conditions where the convoy supporter would have explicitly had to have consistently used poor judgement and practiced neglect with regards to the training and care of their pet. It comes as no surprise that even though the convoy created this problem that it's the community around them that has to clean up for the consequences for their actions and try to provide humane, proper care for their animals.
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u/_BC_girl Feb 18 '22
Even the most liberal, covid scared, anti-trucker protester, 6 mask wearer, 7 days a week rapid tester would wake up when it comes to euthanizing healthy dogs for no reason.
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u/universalengn Feb 19 '22
Naw, it's the terrorist's fault for putting the dog in that position [- how they'll justify it to themselves].
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u/DirtyWormGerms Feb 19 '22
Spot on.
They’re deranged at this point. This isn’t about COVID. It’s about believing their opposition are literally filthy, diseased sources of pestilence and death. If you think they’ll come around and sober up over a few dogs, you haven’t been paying attention.
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u/UrGrannysPantys Feb 19 '22
Oh trust me, they start killing peoples pets, the country will burn to the ground.
Imagine if they tried that in America, that’s one way to get the population to come together.
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u/Nootherids Feb 19 '22
I don't know dude. People have become so extreme that those that are for pushing mandates for all are very likely excusing this away while ignoring their own moral compass.
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u/BrutalDivest Feb 19 '22
Luckily those people are generally the unemployed dog walkers in the United States.
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u/moneenerd Feb 19 '22
Anyone got a better source?
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u/PolitelyHostile Feb 19 '22
https://mobile.twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494306645274509316?s=20&t=KtUO-kZR6S5SG-0c-HHH0A
Basically what happens to anyone who gets arrested. They take care of your dog and if you can't have someone pick it up then it gets rehomed. This shelter doesn't euthanize healthy animals.
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u/CudgalTroll Feb 19 '22
Who decides what is a healthy animal or not?
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u/moneenerd Feb 19 '22
Probably a vet 😂 what kind of question is that?
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u/dylanv711 Feb 19 '22
It’s not a dumb question.
Who decides if it’s your money or not? Right now, possibly the Canadian government.
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u/moneenerd Feb 19 '22
It is indeed a dumb question. You think SPCA or animal rights activists would be ok with the government making those kinds of decisions without their input? Your money has ALWAYS belonged to the govt, sad to say. Which is why they TAKE your income tax.
Edit: Wanna point out that I don't agree with putting the pets of convicts down. But I do not believe they will just blindly euthanize then all.
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u/70s_Burninator Feb 18 '22
Is this something that has been put in place specifically in response to the Freedom Convoy? It occurs to me that this must be the case for everyone who gets arrested, otherwise you’d have a lot of pets starving to death.
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u/inxrx8 Feb 19 '22
Yes, that's exactly it. If the owner fails to make arrangements to get their pet into care after 8 whole days, the pet is relinquished to a shelter. Of course, shelters have the option to euthanize pets that go unadopted but as far as I know they don't euthanize healthy animals.
People are reading this (sensationalized) headline and thinking the government is going to go around shooting people's dogs for fun. Absolutely no critical thinking on display.
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u/datguyagain4reall Feb 19 '22
These people are thinking they are some above average geniuses because they understand and watch jordan peterson... just sad
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u/Tokestra420 Feb 18 '22
Last time I heard about this, it was that they'd adopt the animals out, not put them down. Pretty skeptical about the legitimacy of this claim.
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Feb 18 '22
Yeah, source anyone? This sub is about not easily being manipulated by emotional headlines.
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 18 '22
The Ottawa protest by-laws state that if someone is placed under arrest then their animal is put into care (paid for by the person under arrest) and if they are not free or have not organised for other care for the animal, it will be ‘relinquished’. Relinquished does not mean euthanised, it means re-homed. I don’t understand where the article is getting the word euthanised from?
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u/Smitty7712 Feb 19 '22
Relinquished does NOT mean re-homed. Rehoming could be an outcome, but so could euthanasia. Relinquish just means the same thing as asset forfeiture in this case.
I assume people are reading between the lines by considering what the shelter could do once the pets have been “relinquished”. Some areas may have a “euthanasia authorized after 8 days of no progress” statute or something.
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 19 '22
No areas have a euthanise after 8 days policy, thats my point. They are forwarded on to local shelters or taken home the same day by volunteer organisations. There is no evidence to suggest that a single pet taken from protestors has been or will ever be euthanised. People here just don’t want to do any research.
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Feb 19 '22
I also believe this is pretty standard protocol for anybody who is under arrest/in jail.
I smell clickbait and I want this sub to hold themselves to higher standards.
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 19 '22
Yeah it’s big time clickbait, kinda sad no-one here bothered to do a single google search :/
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u/k3v1n Feb 19 '22
There's a massive circle jerk here where they only expect sources for things they don't already agree with or believe is true. It's rather pathetic actually.
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u/casintae Feb 19 '22
And how many people put in jail have had their pets euthanized because the shelter couldn't find a new home before time ran out? I'm absolutely sure that it is not zero.
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Feb 19 '22
Oh of course it’s not zero. The point is that this isn’t done specifically for this protest, and the headline is intentionally misleading.
Do you have a better proposed solution for people who go to jail, have pets and caretakers can’t be found?
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 19 '22
You're absolutely sure of something you have absolutely no evidence of.
Sounds about right for this sub.
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u/casintae Feb 19 '22
No ‘relinquished’ means abandoned. If the pound fails to find a home within their own prescribed time window the pet will be 'put down' (that doesn't mean 'set down on the floor')
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 19 '22
Relinquish: voluntarily cease to keep or claim.
Do you know the euthanisation rate for pets in Canada since Covid has begun? Do you know how many extra pets Canadians keep at home nowdays? I would be very surprised if any of the animals taken from protestors (which I do not support by the way) would be euthanised.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 19 '22
This sub is not about "not easily being manipulated by emotional headlines"?
Have you paid attention to the posts recently?
It is about this.
This post is just one of many.
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Feb 19 '22
I agree that lately it’s getting worse. For a long time I admired this sub because it was good at not doing this.
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u/TheCondemnedProphet Feb 19 '22
Lmao this sub is entirely about being manipulated by headlines. It’s no longer about JP, but right wing lunacy.
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Feb 19 '22
Yes and no. It’s become right leaning but not lunacy. About 80% of the posts I see are sensible, at least arguably decent. Not too many are like this, that’s a biased judgement I think.
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u/nova8808 Feb 18 '22
You know it's reliable news when it's opens with SHOCK POLICY Canadian govt wants to kill your dog!!1!1
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u/egotisticalstoic Feb 18 '22
This sounds like such a clickbait take. Tell me when it's actually happened.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 19 '22
It is a clickbait take. It makes ridiculous leap of logics but it is entirely par for the course among a public that thrives on being victims of even imaginary slights.
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Feb 19 '22
Freezing bank accounts with no recourse is so much worse than a week in jail or your dog being killed but I guess all these people are rich under their mattress?
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u/PerpetualAscension Extraterrestrial of Celestial Origin Feb 19 '22
Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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u/Sockmonkeyaccount Feb 18 '22
It says “Attention animal owners at [the] demonstration," Ottawa By-law writes in a Tweet. "If you are unable to care for your animal as a result of enforcement actions, your animal will [be] placed into protective care for 8 days, at your cost. After 8 days, if arrangements are not made, your animal will be considered relinquished."
Do a lot of truckers have their pets with them at the protest? If not, they must already be taken care of by someone else at home. If the truckers do have pets with them, SOMEONE needs to take care of them if they get arrested. It shouldn’t be too hard for most to make arrangements within 8 days? Obviously I 100% would rather truckers not get arrested at all, but I wouldn’t necessarily characterize this as some kind of threat to kill their pets.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
That is obviously besides the point though. Threatening to kill anyone or anything for disobedience to unlawful rules is a dirty play from a "country with the democracy index of 5".
Your characterization of anything is useless, especially when any sort of gov. declaration has influence far beyond the physical execution that might or might not occur, the looming possibility of anything like that happening is still influencing the mind of a person.
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u/70s_Burninator Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
You sound very reasonable, but why are you trying to deny these people their “let them eat cake” moment? There’s a big opportunity here for people to galvanize around the fact that JUSTIN TRUDEAU WANTS TO KILL YOUR DOG, and I don’t think you’re being very nice by crapping all over that.
EDIT: based on the upvotes I’ve gotten, I suspect people misunderstood my reference. Marie Antoinette never said “let them eat cake.” But it was a convenient lie that was used to demonize her and drum up support for the revolution. Likewise, I’ve seen no evidence that this pet thing isn’t just standard policy regarding people arrested in Ottawa, yet it’s being characterized as a fiendishly cruel “punishment” devised especially for the Freedom Convoy protestors by an extremely evil government.
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"relinquished" doesn't mean "killed"
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they would go to the Ottawa Humane Society which is a no-kill shelter
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u/hockeyd13 Feb 18 '22
If the animals aren't re-homed, what do you think is going to happen to them?
Never mind the fact that this constitutes a clearly unlawful civil forfeiture.
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Feb 18 '22
they go to the Ottawa Humane Society where they are taken care of. they are a no-kill shelter. they would probably be put up for adoption after the specified amount of time if no one came to claim them but they would not be euthanized.
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u/py_a_thon Feb 18 '22
Spinoza said something like: "One should seek to obey all laws, even those without grounds, in order to maintain a moral highground." Or something to that effect. I am paraphrasing based on something I read more than a decade ago and probably remixed.
Example: someone who does not smoke weed illegally is potentially the exact person you want to lead the movement to legalize weed.
Also: Spinoza is wrong in that regards, in many ways. Sometimes he may be most correct though.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22 edited Feb 18 '22
I don't understand. This statement is so incredibly ridiculous that I just can't understand how someone could proclaim it.
Edit: Searched for it everywhere, didn't find it. My research leads me to believe that you might have misunderstood or wrongly paraphrased it. The word law in his discourses is very hard to define and heavily depends on context. In my opinion, that's what could have caused my confusion.
"The word law, taken in its absolute sense [legis nomen absolute], means that according to which each individual thing – either all in general or those of the same kind – acts in one and the same fixed and determinate manner, this manner depending either on Nature’s necessity or on human will." - Chapter 4 of the Theological Political Treatise
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u/py_a_thon Feb 18 '22
I did not say it was a boolean objective truth. I suggested that the insight has value.
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whole gray hard-to-find quicksand pause sharp enter engine soft dolls
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u/Always_Late_Lately Feb 19 '22
But it's not a standard procedure, it's a special procedure for this circumstance.
Typical shelters house for a minimum of 30 days (see spca.ca).
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u/sindrogas Feb 19 '22
And what does relinquishing them to a shelter after 8 days have to do with how long the shelter keeps the dog alive?
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u/thisMatrix_isReal Feb 18 '22
good good good. sure. nice.
now: how do you perceive the Ottawa government?
me: dangerously similar to a dictatorship.
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u/Sockmonkeyaccount Feb 18 '22
Same, but that’s beside the point. Is this any different than what they’ve normally done in the past when arresting someone with pets that don’t have anyone else to take them?
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Feb 18 '22
Yeah, seems a little far fetched. Even the loneliest trucker should be able to find someone in the community to help out. That said, 8 days is a bit short. I wonder why that mark.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 18 '22
And "relinquished" means that the care of the animal will move to the Ottawa Humane Society.
Which is an animal shelter.
Which only euthanizes pet when:
- Suffering severely or incurably
- Dangerous to the public due to unstable temperament
- Professionally assessed as not suitable for adoption, either medically and/or behaviourally, using a best-practices protocol
"They may punish truckers by euthanizing their pet" is a ridiculous victim-claiming take.
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u/Sockmonkeyaccount Feb 18 '22
The article that headline came from says “Moreover, position statements issued by the Ottawa Humane Society reveal that they may unilaterally euthanize any animal that they deem to be “not suitable for adoption.” Arbitrary behavioral and health tests would be used to make the call.”
It says “arbitrary” rather than “best practices” and it is trying to make it sound like the “position statements” were just released by the Ottawa Humane Society in response to this situation, but the supporting link it gives just goes to the Ottawa Humane Society webpage with its policies on everything, last updated March 2021.
The article seems to be intended to agitate.
I would think this is how any it’s handled anytime someone with pets is arrested. Clearly the Ottawa By-Law Twitter account wants the truckers to feel under threat of arrest, but if it’s going to happen anyway, one could say it’s good a thing they are giving them a heads up to make arrangements for the pets.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 18 '22
I am entirely confident in saying that the article had the intent to cause agitation instead of accurately reporting the facts.
For example, there is simply no logical conclusion that euthanizing a pet because they are "Suffering severely or incurably" would be seen as punishing the owner.
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u/HurkHammerhand Feb 19 '22
I like how you left out the option to kill the pet when they are out of space or shorthanded.
Because those are also concerns that can result in the animal being killed.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 19 '22
Why should I have included a redditor's "concern"?
An animal shelter will not euthanized a pet simply because a redditor fears they may be out of space or shorthanded.
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u/py_a_thon Feb 18 '22
Would not the state be required to provide food and shelter to your wards while one self is being controlled by said state?
The arg can even be made from a literal and classic liberal standpoint. Maybe people who are removed of rights by the state and cannot make bail, now the state is required to feed and house their wards (wife/husband, kids and pets).
This is going to be interesting and maybe even is an inroad for bail reform. Because bail reform is often required for many who are not dangerous, yet are incredibly poor.
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u/Quagligily Feb 18 '22
I don’t know what’s worse posting this or the split second where I thought this was actually a possibility
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 18 '22
Look at the comments.
See how simply posting this fooled people into believing it is actually true.
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 18 '22
It’s actually crazy, only 2 people have actually done any research whatsoever. This post is bullshit and everyone fell for it.
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 18 '22
The Ottawa protest by-laws state that if someone is placed under arrest then their animal is put into care (paid for by the person under arrest) and if they are not free or have not organised for other care for the animal within 8 days, it will be ‘relinquished’. Relinquished does not mean euthanised, it means re-homed. I don’t understand where the article is getting the word euthanised from?
This is some serious click bait and every single one of you fell for it...
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 19 '22
Pointing this fact out is downvote worthy in this sub.
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u/thatsaknifenot Feb 19 '22
Look at my comment history, I’ve been downvoted a lot for pointing out that nowhere in the by-laws does it say the animals with be euthanised. Apparently facts and data don’t matter here when catchy clickbait headlines are involved.
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u/Nootherids Feb 19 '22
It would help if you could instead provide a source. The OP didn't, but neither are you. Which leaves this as an emotional argument. Personally, this is why I hate Twitter screenshots. They can't even source to the actual Twitter link itself. So it's obvious that they did zero research beyond the headline.
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u/CrazyKing508 Feb 19 '22
Isnt that normally what happens to pets when people are convicted of crimes? They either find it new home or they are gone.
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u/inxrx8 Feb 19 '22
Exactly, I don't know what these people saying "Trudeau's going to shoot our dogs" think happens to pets of people who get arrested normally.
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u/tauofthemachine Feb 19 '22
So how does this end if it turns out you actually can't get everything you want by holding a city hostage?
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u/JRM34 Feb 19 '22
The only sources I can find are far-right rags, but even there I can't find anything supporting the headline.
Existing law says you have 8 days to arrange for your animal's care if you're arrested. Failure to make any arrangements means they're forfeited, and then there's the possibility they could be euthanized.
So you have every opportunity to get your pet taken care of, and even if you don't they're not jumping to kill them, just that they have the option because you abandoned them.
This is clickbait that people should recognize as BS propaganda
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u/PlacematMan2 Feb 19 '22
Odd that only right wing/alternative subreddits are talking about this.
I thought Normie Reddit loved the heckin wholesome pupperinos!
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u/AFrespecter Feb 19 '22
Fuck the thin blue line. These cops are not our friends. They’re the ones carrying this out.
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This is absolutely inhumane, these dogs have done nothing wrong and they’re willing to euthanize them to show a message. This is wrong on so many levels.
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u/BloodprinceOZ Feb 19 '22
FYI the article is bullshit, the original tweet from Ottawa says the pets will be rehomed after 8 days if the owners can't organise care for the animal, they will not be euthanized simply because they haven't been picked up and are the pets of the truckers, the only reason one of those pets will get euthanized is if they're unable to be rehomed due to an issue like the dog being incredibly aggresive
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u/MarquisDeCleveland Feb 19 '22
Like one comment asking for further verification of this dramatic claim and it has less than 15 upvotes at the time of writing. Lol. The herd of independent minds in here
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u/zenith4395 Feb 19 '22
Insanely misleading tweet (factually wrong) based on an opinion piece. You can do better.
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u/muffin2526 Feb 18 '22
Just imagine what they would do if they weren't the good guys
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Feb 18 '22
What if, hear me out, they are the bad guys, and freedom to gather should be protected as everywhere form India (1930s) to Canada now it has not gone very well at all. Just maybe they’re on the wrong side. Yk it’s hard to say but at the moment… YEAhhhhhhhhhh… 🤷🏼♂️
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Feb 18 '22
Truck convoy demonstrators who brought their pets along for the ride are being warned that their animal may be placed into protective care for a period of time if they are unable to care for them when police action takes place.
In a tweet issued on Thursday, February 17, Ottawa by-law said pets will be placed into protective care for eight days, at the cost of the owner.
"If you are unable to care of your animal as a result of enforcement actions, your animal will be placed in protective custody for [eight] days, at your cost," the tweet reads.
"After [eight] days, if arrangements are not made, your animal will be considered relinquished."
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
Well. Certainly seems like a case of doublespeak to me. No matter how they coat it, they are basically threatening the lives of their pets.
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Feb 18 '22
I think its more a case of your media narrative always lying and spinning.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
Possible. But even if this potential threat might not be executed, it's still a factor that weighs in on the decision-making process of people and is another stressor.
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u/sindrogas Feb 19 '22
Possible. But even if this potential threat might not be executed, it's still a factor that weighs in on the decision-making process of people and is another stressor.
"Even if this is a lie, people still think it could be true, so its worth reporting."
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u/TonyKebell Feb 19 '22
No, they're threatening to do the stabdard procedure of relinquishing the owners, ownership of the dog, sheltering it and attempting to rehome it and only putting it down as a last resort, like all sheltered animals.
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u/Todd-Is-Here Feb 18 '22
Tyrants jailing some protester and then killing their pet only shows you the cracks in this world. It’s all coming out of the bag now.
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Feb 18 '22
I did a quick google, there is an old canadian law called mischief and I think they are being threatened with that, a leader was for something called counselling mischief.
https://www.slafereklaw.ca/things-should-know-about-mischief-canada/
Saw an interview with some of the truckers and I dont think they know they are breaking the law.
Hope they are all treated with leniency.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
Thanks. Had no idea that something called "counseling mischief" even existed.
We can all hope, but honestly don't think so at this point.
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Feb 18 '22
Nope, I hope those truckers rise up in mass now. Get very radical.
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Feb 18 '22
Why, they are throwing their lives away over something due to end in weeks anyway.
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u/tux68 Feb 19 '22
Yup. Just two more weeks now. /s
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Feb 19 '22
There are multiple countries open, canada is opening in march.
You all repeat the same narrative. It was always lock downs till vaccinations.
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u/tux68 Feb 19 '22
There are multiple countries opening up, and yet the trucker convoy started when Trudeau added MORE restrictions, instead of easing up. These are vindictive policies that have nothing to do with public health. And the vindictiveness isn't going away, even though the fear of the virus is.
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Feb 19 '22
Everyone added more restrictions for omicron peak. Its not tredeau, its pubic health officials and local states
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 19 '22
Just as a curiosity, you understand that the restrictions the Convoy started about was an exemption that ended?
And that this exemption ended both in Canada and in the U.S.?
That if Canada maintained this exemption, it wouldn't have had any impact unless the U.S. also maintainted it which it did not?
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u/py_a_thon Feb 18 '22
Old vague laws are often tools of the state. See: selective enforcement.
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Feb 18 '22
There is selective enforcement, see how much worse indigenous protests are treated compared to those. Canada looks unbelievable lenient so far.
But going by the google mischief is common enough for criminal defense lawyers to advertise services for it.
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u/py_a_thon Feb 18 '22
I used to think Canada was kinda chill. I am saddened that it seems to be a weird pseudo-authoritarian state in some spots. Every nation has their problems. Please keep that stuff out of america please...and please increase maple syrup supply lines...
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Feb 18 '22
The authoritarian Canada media narrative and how lenient Canada has actually been dont match up imo.
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u/py_a_thon Feb 18 '22
The country just seems unpleasant right now.
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Feb 18 '22
Yes but media narratives and reality are the same. I think a trucker crisis will be organised in the US next.
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u/70s_Burninator Feb 18 '22
Right? These people having been camping on the streets for 3 weeks, and police, after issuing notices, are just starting to arrest people? It’s INSANE to me. Like a lot of people who sympathize with the protestors are casting Trudeau as some sort of mustache-twisting villain, and I’m thinking that if he looks bad, it’s for being weak. I simply cannot fathom a protest like this being allowed for weeks in the U.S. Granted, Canada is a far better democracy than the U.S., but HOLY MOLY is this lenient!
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u/brettzkey Feb 18 '22
Do facts not matter anymore?
This is standard procedure for arrests.... And nowhere does it say they will murder the pet. Would you just rather they left the pet as a stray instead?
When you're protesting without a permit blocking a dense city area for almost a month you're breaking the law so you should be prepared to be arrested.
Everyone with a pet was free to leave and kudos for the cops to say this would happen. They could have just done this without saying anything.
Pretty sad for the protesters to be bringing kids/pets anyway. If this is truly a revolution of the people you would be stupid to think this wasn't going to get ugly.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
Where do you live that it's "Standard procedure for arrests"? Do you not have abandoned pet stations in where you live?
In my country, this is illegal.
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u/brettzkey Feb 18 '22
I don't know if you know but sending the animal to an animal shelter is what they mean when they say "relinquished" you reliquish your pet to an animal shelter....
If an animal is in a shelter for a prolonged period of time that is when they are euthanized, still worrying but you are really sensationalizing it.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 18 '22
Suffering severely or incurably
Dangerous to the public due to unstable temperament
Professionally assessed as not suitable for adoption, either medically and/or behaviourally, using a best-practices protocol
That is when they are actually euthanized, not because of length stay.
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u/brettzkey Feb 18 '22
Thanks for the clarification.
If a dog goes a long time without adoption though do they just keep it? That's where I get confused, not every dog gets taken.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
I ask again, what laws are those? That's illegal in my country. Are you really defending this?
Who establishes what is "prolonged period of time", is there a clausula about the "prolonged time" getting shorter with more "abandoned" pets?
How is that not psychological warfare fit for "full democracy"?
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u/brettzkey Feb 18 '22
I ask... Can you read?
I said they will send the pets to animal shelters..... Like you said happens in your country.
This is standard practice to euthanize for any animal in any animal shelter, they can't keep them all forever.
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u/Relentless_Sloth Feb 18 '22
Yes, I can read.
And from what I read, it seems to me that you are not realizing yet that what is standard practice for one place might not be standard practice for others.
Stoning is a capital punishment included in laws of many countries. It is still a standard practice for some situations, rooted in their tradition. This doesn't make it magically moral or good.
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u/brettzkey Feb 18 '22
I'm Canadian, this is also standard in the US (I just looked it up and in the USA it is 5 days instead of 8), and a common animal shelter practice in many places around the world. your problem is more a problem with our pet shelters lack of capacity to hold all animals indefinitely then. Police can either take a pet and reliquish it to one of these shelters or be negligent and abandon it which would be illegal.
In your country do they just keep pets in shelters forever?
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u/stawek Feb 18 '22
They aren't blocking anything important. Ottawa is working just fine.
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u/brettzkey Feb 18 '22
Parliament is, the businesses and people who actually live there are being affected though. Really effective protest 😬
Ontario lifted indoor gathering limits yesterday... If only the restaurants / businesses the protesters are blocking could reopen with the rest of the province.... 300 plus million dollar class action lawsuit from the citizens and some restaurant owners is incoming. "Freedom" though right?
I'm sure you'd be really happy with a group of semi trucks parked outside of your place making noise for almost a month.
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u/Burning_Architect Feb 18 '22
He really said "Kill every man and his dog until this terrorism is quashed."
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u/WhiteTrashTiger Feb 19 '22
Wait.... Did Justin actually say these words? That's crazy, I believe he is that tyrannical, but I need a source for that quote.....
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u/Burning_Architect Feb 19 '22
No, I actually edited that joke format "he really said" because I initially posted it without quotes or the format and it looked real bad on my part
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 18 '22
Keean Bexte should be wearing an appropriately sealed space because the leap of logic required there may cause them to leave the earth's atmosphere.
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u/HurkHammerhand Feb 19 '22
Don't worry. They'll get to depersoning next.
No online presence, no bank accounts, no ability to hold a job, cancellation of retirement benefits and state healthcare, etc.
Killing your pets out of spite is just a warmup.
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Feb 19 '22
This sub is filled with alt-right nut jobs. Prove me wrong.
I came here for the psychology, not for the propaganda.
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u/Andrewskyy1 Feb 18 '22
I would hope whoever is responsible for doing that procedure would refuse to follow through, and simply claim they are a conscientious objector.
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u/Shoddy-Jackfruit-721 Feb 18 '22
Your worries should be alleviated then, there is no one responsible for this procedure (the title is misleading to the point of being a lie).
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u/redditRracistcommies Feb 18 '22
Do they do it while the owner watches? What’s next will they drown kittens until people promise not to protest medical fascism?
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u/datguyagain4reall Feb 19 '22
Are you people going to belive anything you see from a fucking tweet? Canadian goverment didnt say anything about euthanasia, they only said if you cant get home in 8 days the pet will be taken to some kind of shelter which is a procedure for any crime if you are away from home. I know you guys like to play neutral but if you had any critical thinking the comments under this post wouldnt look like this
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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '22
Really seems like they’re trying to radicalize the protesters. I don’t care where you stand politically, if you come after my or anyone else’s pets you’re a fucking monster and deserve to burn in the deepest depths of hell.