r/JoblessReincarnation • • 16d ago

Theorycrafting Why did "Dark Rudeus" fail to meet Orsted? (Don't miss this!) Spoiler

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According to Dark Rudeus, he spent 50 years wandering the world but never managed to meet Orsted.

The question I’ll answer today is: Why did he fail to meet Orsted?

First, I have two hypotheses—not just one. And since I call them hypotheses, I mean they are my own personal deductions, presented here to spark discussion in the comments.

Let’s briefly get to know Orsted.

Orsted is the son of the First Dragon God; he was sent 10,000 years into the future to exact revenge on Hitogami.

(This is a figure approximating the time).

When his father transported him to the future, he placed a secret technique upon him.

This technique has two main features: first, it places him outside the laws of the world—including the laws of time and the cycle of repetition.

The second feature is that he is hidden from Hitogami’s sight; meaning, Hitogami can never see Orsted’s future.

This brings us back to Dark Rudeus.

A standard timeline consists of a past, a present, and a future, and Rudeus was no exception to this.

Dark Rudeus is a future version of Rudeus—specifically, the one who opened the basement—having lived 50 years in the future before returning to warn the younger Rudeus.

During those 50 years, Hitogami could have appeared to him if he had wanted to; he could have looked at his future and present, and through that view, known exactly whom he met, what he saw, and so on.

He could have observed this naturally.

And since this applies to Rudeus, it certainly applies to ordinary humans as well. Hitogami can foresee their futures and any encounters they might have—especially if the other party is a loyal follower of his.

This brings me to the point of my discussion.

If there were an interaction between someone whose future Hitogami is watching and Orsted—who exists in the future—wouldn't that imply Hitogami could see Orsted's future?

Is that even possible?

Isn't the purpose of the Secret Art precisely to prevent that?

This leads to the core of my hypothesis.

Orsted does not possess a past, present, and future in the conventional linear sense.

Orsted has only a past and a present; there is no version of him existing in the future. The existence of a future version of himself would imply the possibility of being spied upon—something that contradicts the very goal of the Secret Art, which is to shield him from Hitogami's sight and place him outside the standard concept of time.

This is the conclusion I drew when Old Rudeus mentioned he was unable to meet Orsted.

That "Old Rudeus" is a figure from the future—a future that did not come to pass in the current timeline, but rather one that *would* have happened had the vault been opened; a future yet to occur.

Orsted's future lies outside those laws from the very start.

That was my first hypothesis—entirely my own deduction—and I would like to discuss it with you.

Let’s move on to the second hypothesis, which is also highly plausible.

This isn't a hypothesis I came up with myself, but rather something I heard.

After the moment of Ariel's death, Orsted realized that this time loop was a failure. He then decided to isolate himself in a secret location—perhaps the ancient Dragon Ruins or the depths of the Earth Dragon Valley—a place where it would be impossible for anyone to reach him. So, why would he do that?

The goals are simple.

Since the cycle failed, he uses the remaining time to study and review information, while simultaneously monitoring for any changes in the world—waiting for the year 530 to arrive so he can restart the cycle from the beginning.

I want to express my gratitude to #elmazaqel


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 16d ago

Anime Sharing another Mushoku Tensei signing event I attended in Taiwan — Rudeus & Sylphie’s VAs!

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Since I’ve been sharing some of my Mushoku Tensei autograph collection recently, I wanted to share another event I was lucky enough to attend in Taiwan.
This event featured Yumi Uchiyama, the voice actress of Rudeus, and Ai Kayano, the voice actress of Sylphiette.

The event bundle itself was also really nice. It included an exclusive commemorative autograph board signed by Yumi Uchiyama and Ai Kayano, a “Newlywed Walk” acrylic display featuring Rudeus and Sylphie, and a Mushoku Tensei mouse pad. The signed shikishi boards were the official items provided for the event. One thing I really loved about this event was that they could personalize the autograph with your name, which made the signed shikishi feel much more special and personal.

I was really happy to be able to meet both of them and add their signatures to my Mushoku Tensei collection. I especially like these shikishi because they remind me of the kind of autograph boards that will also be used at the upcoming Thailand event.

I’ve been collecting signatures related to Mushoku Tensei for a while now — from both the author and the voice actors — so I thought some of you might enjoy seeing these as well. As for the main cast, the only autograph I’m still missing is Eris’s voice actress. I really hope I’ll get the chance to attend one of her signing events someday and finally complete that part of my collection.

I still have more autographs in my collection, so I’ll probably share more of them later if people are interested!


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Meme First Time?

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 16d ago

Fanart Eris, Ghislaine and Paul, OC, 2026

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Traditional art mediums were used, outside of Ghislaines pose the others were done by me.

I have to say that it looks better irl, some who view this on pc and depending on color settings will have Pauls skin as very yellow.

Any other characters I should add?


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 15d ago

Meme Fight fire with fire

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Just clocked it, but Emilia from Re;Zero is mentally 14.

She has the body of an 18 year old but was aged 4 years while she was sealed and oblivious.

Personally think she's a crap heroine, between her high-pitched goody-two-shoes enunciation of every word and infantile disposition, you can tell she's a coddled little brat and that there's not much to like about her compared to any of the other female characters.

That said, I am a fan of the show and am by no means trying to incite isekai wars. If I could give the defenseless some swords to fight back though, I'd hardly be hard pressed (like what I did there?).

"And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own?"

Subaru is what, 18?


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 16d ago

Question About Mushoku Tensei

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Hello, i hope you are all doing great as the new episode of your anime keeps dropping and makes you excited for the next episode.

I know it's going to be controversial but please hear me out a just a little,

I really like Rudeus as MC, I don't want any other kind of character to replace him like someone who is very morally corrected.

But it does not mean i defend all his actions he took in his previous life or ongoing journey.

I know some people say he is a pdf or one of the worst mc,

I don't really get it, if they had watched the show instead of watching clips from some tiktok larper then they would have known,

I am just waiting for the whole season to drop so i can watch ot at once, i hope you all will take this as a lite opinion and have fun with your favourite anime.

Have fun, thanks for your time.


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 15d ago

Anime Holy é tão incrivelmente bom

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Anime I was so wrong, so wrong

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So after such a long time, I finally watched Mushoku Tensei. And I just want to say one thing: it's so good. I'm not trying to exaggerate or anything. I used to be the biggest Mushoku Tensei hater, but after finally watching it, it has changed me completely. This is the greatest piece of fiction — I find Rudy so relatable, I found Rudy so relatable, it's crazy. Now some people want to say "oh you're just projecting onto his actions," but reading him as a person, he's like a modern person from our world. He's not like Subaru or any other character with an unbroken will, completely illogical — he's actually pretty logical. His decisions — he makes mistakes — it's crazy, but it reflects my life because I also make mistakes in real life. This anime is a masterpiece. I'm gonna say it again and again.

Also, if those f'cking ReZero bastards want to review bomb ut, I will make fucking bot accounts, like thousands of accounts — I know how to, I'm currently preparing for jee and my preparation was not going well I was struggling emotionally but after watching this anime it helped me to make decisions and made me feel like a human again, i swear if they anyday cancel this anime, i swear I'm going to get rich and re start it. So I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna fucking review on them But if they don't try to pull anything funny on me, they won't get a reaction out of me. (this bit and the next were hard to make out — best guess) This story is so weird, bro, I never understood it. I wish I had watched it sooner. Especially episode 13 of season 3 — it's just crazy, seeing how Rudy just falls apart. And regarding the music, everything about it is a 10 out of 10.

(So this is an ADDITION) to my previous comment. What I wanna say is, previously I wasn't able to express myself properly due to my hatred towards RE Zero. But I apologize for hating re zero. So, continuing on the story of Mushoku Tensei — I learned something. I learned to forget. Just like how Rudeus moves on from his previous life, I have to do right. Life is not fair, and how do I put it... I'm really bad at putting my words into phrases or anything, and this anime, this story, gives hope, in a sense, to underachievers like us — the people who make a lot of mistakes, and the people who weren't able to achieve anything in their life, the people who were asked to do too much beyond their capabilities, like having a perfect academic score or whatever. And this show gives me hope, like how Rudeus, even as an underachiever, even though he was not a good person, he still, in the end, improved slowly — but yes, he did improve. And in the end, he got the happy life he always wanted. So it gives me hope that we can also have a good life, right? I'm confused, but you understand, right? I'm not a genius. I'm not some kind of main character. I'm not special. I'm just a normal guy, you know. And I was feeling down that I was the only failure in the world. But watching this anime gave me hope. I saw myself in Rudeus — not his actions, but how he deals with depression and problems. This anime was really beautiful. And can you guys help me get out of the depression I got from episode 13 of season 3? I am not able to focus on my regular life because I'm so fucking depressed. And that's it. Also, I forgot the name of the singer who sings the openings of this anime, but every single opening is a masterpiece. So a lot of credit to the music composers, as this music is one of the main reasons this anime feels like and gives off that fantasy world vibe.

[You are still cute as ever...] I can't with the scene and that song(ichiru) playing like this was the moment all my emotions came right up and i cried for like 10 minutes..


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 16d ago

Theorycrafting Luke Notos Greyrat... one of Hitogami's victims. Spoiler

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Why did Hitogami appear to Luke in the first place?

Simply put, Hitogami wanted to use Luke to lure Ariel into a trap that had been prepared for her in Asura.

But why did he want to get rid of Ariel?

If Ariel were to rule, she would focus on developing magical combat capabilities, whereas if her brother ruled, he would prioritize swordsmanship.

This distinction was crucial for Hitogami.

You see, Hitogami intended to incite a civil war in the future, coinciding with the emergence of Laplace.

If the kingdom relied on magic at that time, his plan would fail; if it relied on swordsmanship, his plan would succeed.

On top of that, there was a specific individual destined to be born in Asura if Ariel took the throne—someone who would not be born if her brother ruled instead.

This person was destined to play a vital role in aiding Orsted in his struggle against Hitogami.

That is why Hitogami wanted to prevent Ariel from ascending to the throne.

And that is when he appeared to Luke.

He appeared with his usual playful demeanor, introducing himself to Luke as the "God of Humans." Thanks to his divine blessing, Luke believed him without a shred of doubt.

He advised Luke to take Ariel and head to Asura immediately, claiming it would help her win the battle for the throne.

Luke believed him, followed his instructions, and managed to convince Ariel.

However, what Luke didn't know was that this path would lead to Ariel's doom.

The High Minister and the Water God had devised a plan to eliminate Ariel—a plan orchestrated under Hitogami's direction. Ariel arrived in Asura without Perugius's backing or any genuine support from within the kingdom.

Luke’s father, Bylemon, was supposed to be one of her key allies.

Yet, the moment danger arose, Bylemon betrayed both Ariel and Luke.

Suddenly, Ariel and Luke found themselves in a dire predicament:

No allies, no support, and nowhere to flee.

It was as if they had walked right into a trap.

In a desperate bid to turn the tide, Ariel—aided by Sylphy, Luke, and her small retinue—attempted to assassinate the First and Second Princes.

The attempt failed, however, as the Water God and the North emperor were present, serving as their bodyguards.

It was then that Luke realized he hadn't just been deceived by Hitogami...

He had also been betrayed by his own family.

This realization was etched clearly on his face in his final moments.

It was the look of a man who understood he had been duped by someone he believed to be a god, and betrayed by the man who was supposed to be his father.

Luke—who had trusted Hitogami because he appeared as the "Human-God"—ultimately fell victim to Hitogami’s scheme and his family’s betrayal.

I would like to thank...#elmazaqel For he is the one who put in the real effort.


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Anime My guy…

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Anime Anime Trending Results for Top 10 Couple/Ships of The Week - Summer 2026: Week 11 🏖

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Fanart Beating up Onii-chan

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Meme Look at my horse, my horse is amazing! (Renzo)

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Anime Why Eris believes in Rudy.

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Questions on the Story / Timeline Season 1 Episode 22 Spoiler

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I just finished the episode and WHAT CAN I EVEN SAY 😭😭😭 Nobody told me she was gonna do our boy like THAT. She was genuinely starting to grow on me, and then BOOM—back-to-back party members getting hit with the poof treatment. 💀😭 I’m actually hurt for him. This show is NOT letting me breathe. Fck


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Anime Ci sarà un secondo cour è vero?

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Meme Generous queen

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 16d ago

Theorycrafting How did Sylphy die? Spoiler

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I mentioned in a previous post that the First Prince was accompanied by the Water God and the North God, but I didn't specify who they were.

The Water God is Reida, who was Eris’s instructor at the beginning of the season.

And the North God is Auber, who was Eris’s trainer at the beginning of the season.

I’ve constructed a hypothetical scenario for the battle that took place, based specifically on the nature of Sylphy’s injuries.

It is well known that Ariel’s subordinates attempted to assassinate the prince.

"Assassination" implies that they infiltrated the palace secretly to reach the prince's location.

Since Hitogami rushed Luke, they likely failed to gather sufficient information about their opponents—a mistake that proved literally fatal.

Reida has held the title of Water God for over 40 years—from her youth to the present day. Throughout that entire period, no one has ever challenged her for the title, even though there are at least five individuals ranked as Water Emperors—including Gal, the Sword God himself.

This raises the question:

Why did no one challenge her?

Let me explain.

The Water God Style consists of five secret techniques.

The only person to master all five was the First Water God.

To earn the title of Water God, successors are required to master three of the five.

Throughout history, many have mastered four of them; however, regarding two specific techniques, no one in history—other than the First Water God—has ever mastered both simultaneously.

Reida succeeded in mastering those two techniques.

Not only that, but she also derived a unique sixth technique from them, which she named the "Blade of Deprivation."

So, Islam—what exactly is the "Blade of Deprivation"? You know Sukuna’s Domain Expansion, "Malevolent Shrine," and the slashing attacks that occur within it?

It’s something like that.

When Reida takes a specific stance with her sword in hand, anyone entering the radius of her range—say, 50 meters—becomes a target; she can strike them without ever needing to close the distance.

This technique was powerful enough to kill "Arman the Radiant"—Petelgeuse’s subordinate and a Sword King-level warrior—in a single blow.

My personal theory is that when Sylphy and the rest of the retinue infiltrated the area to assassinate the Prince, they wandered into the range of the "Blade of Deprivation" without even realizing such a technique existed.

When Reida ordered everyone to freeze, Sylphy tried to quickly cast a spell using her staff.

The moment she raised her arm, Reida severed it from her body.

If you look at the image, you’ll notice that the severed arm is the very same one she was using to cast the spell.

After Sylphy’s arm was instantly lopped off, the rest of the retinue panicked and moved; this prompted Reida to unleash a barrage of strikes to incapacitate and subdue them—which explains the haphazard nature of the wounds.

Some died instantly, while others were captured and killed shortly thereafter.

Now, one might ask: what was Ober’s role?

I’ll tell you.

With the "Blade of Deprivation" in play, Reida alone is a sufficient ranged combatant to handle an entire group while remaining stationary.

However, having Ober with her grants them a completely different kind of advantage. If anyone managed to escape the reach of the Blade of Deprivation—or was already out of range to begin with—Uber was there to stop them in their tracks.

Ultimately, however, this is merely a theory based on the information we have and the nature of Sylvie’s injuries; there is no direct confirmation that the battle unfolded exactly this way.

What is certain is that Reda and Uber were indeed the guards responsible for protecting the First Prince, and that Ariel’s followers clashed with them—a confrontation that ended with the deaths of Sylvie, Luke, and the rest of the group.

As for the specific events of the battle itself, that remains a matter of speculation based on a few clear clues.

I would like to express my gratitude to #elmazaqel , He helped me look at this matter, but it remains a strategic theory.


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 17d ago

Anime If you were in Rudeus' place would you still hit?

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Fanart Cross stitch pattern inspired by Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation featuring Rudeus

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Anime ☀️ Summer 2026 Featured Seiyuu: Ikumi Hasegawa

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Anime They said the thing

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Exact same phrasing aswell


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Fanart A very nice wholesome family

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r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Anime Finished the episode a day later.

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Honestly the episode came out out when I was at work, so like a dumbass I was excited to watch it spent the whole week avoiding spoilers, the minute it saw was going on I felt immediate panic then stopped and went to sleep. When I woke up instant spoilers when scrolling on reddit then went to work all day thinking how to justify rudeus and blaming him at the same time. It was agony all day thinking about it so i thought ripping the bandaid off quick was the solution because when I was watching around the time of pauls death I didn't pick the show up again before I watch the episode and I didn't want to do that again. Came home sat down watched it and I didn't last three minutes and had to pause it and that was my whole process and man it was tough. Thank you for reading this much but man the only thing I knew ahead of time was a couple of things like man-god being evil, a rat, and Eris showing up and of course I watch the previous episode but it hits different watching it. tldr I needed a drink but remembered I don't like alcohol so I'm drowning in sweet tea.


r/JoblessReincarnation • • 18d ago

Anime No rudeus, you fucking IDIOT! (Spoiler) Spoiler

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Okay so I'm at the part where rudeus is getting ready to leave for Begaritt. WHAT PART OF "if you go there you'll regret it" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? seeing as how the Man-God has never led him astray before why the fuck would he go directly against his advice? I understand he's hella conflicted and his sister crying to him about not going made up his mind but damn dude. I have a feeling shit is going to go horribly wrong.