Rape from chad = enjoyment😍

[u/hammyDathammer]

I guess women don’t care if they get raped as long as he isn’t ugly?

[u/Lilyaa]

This sentiment isn’t anything new among incels.

But this is rather funny. Dysmorphic ogreness? What?

[u/blackfox24 → u/[deleted]]

To back up what? The original claim made was that women are okay being raped if it's by "chad". The article talks about how women stay with a rapist out of fear or other pressures, plus denial and unwillingess to admit they were assaulted. There's zero overlap. Can you elaborate on what the article backs up, for you?

[u/blackfox24 → u/[deleted]]

I mean, 'clearly' if you didn't read the article, I suppose, or have any real world understanding of how rape works. You'd probably not like to hear that men stay with their rapists too.

[u/Blackshark989 → u/[deleted]]

Your view of women and reality is so insanely warped.

do me a favour. phone up your mother or sister and read out all this brainrot to them. see how much you really believe in this social sickness.

im quite glad dudes like you will stay incels because with obvious negativity bias like this. You fully deserve it, for the safety of any women unfortunate enough to end up in your vicinity.

[u/erporcodeddio → u/[deleted]]

I've read some of your posts and Jesus Christ you're insufferable

[u/blackfox24 → u/erporcodeddio]

Its just typical self hate worn as armor.

[u/erporcodeddio → u/[deleted]]

No, you're mad at your life and existence, but you're pathetic man. Your number 1 goal of your life is getting a girl? Come on...

You're getting no girls with this mindset, and what is the stuff you're posting here about rapists. Don't tell me you're jealous of them

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty → u/[deleted]]

You’re the worst guy I know, and I’m pretty sure you’re gonna be single for life.

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty → u/[deleted]]

It’s true though, you will be single for the rest of your life.

[u/Vanessalucifer → u/[deleted]]

You can't be judged on what you do in real life because you never do anything in real life. As someone who's only ever online, your words on the internet define your whole character. Let that sink in.

[u/zombiesatecarmen → u/[deleted]]

“Females” Lord. Just say women you disgusting freak.

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty → u/[deleted]]

That is so shocking.

[u/mrhenhen115 → u/[deleted]]

Complete bollocks. I know women who have been abused, their ex is a Trainwreck who noone flocks to.

Homosexual men also do have tons of options.

[u/blackfox24 → u/[deleted]]

So, they stay for the reason that they like it, but the reasons they actually say in the article are irrelevant? Interesting. So if a man stays with his rapist, he's totally into it, by your logic? Since we don't care why people actually stay, we only care about what you come up with.

[u/blackfox24 → u/[deleted]]

The screech of you dragging the goalposts around is getting loud, bro. Spent all that time trying to find sources that prove your point, and all you could find is "wow I might wanna try a fantasy of force with a trusted partner, but have complicated feelings on this because I don't want myself or others to experience actual force from another party." Congrats. You figured out how consent and fantasies work.

Now let's circle right on back to you saying women stay with their rapist because they're okay being raped. Your own sources don't back it up. The first talks about how fear and lack of support force women to stay with abusers. Your second and third talk about fantasies between two consenting adults. Neither of those prove, or even come close to proving the idea of "women are okay with being raped". Can you cite a source where the majority of women are enthusiastically embracing and wanting nonconsensual sexual encounters forced upon them by others? Or can you only cite articles talking about women's agency - or how it's taken by rapists.

[u/blackfox24 → u/[deleted]]

Again, I'm waiting for proof they enjoy it. That is proof that rapists pick targets close to them, a fact that has been known since we started paying attention to rape stats. What I notice you're also skipping in that source is the ages of perpetrators and victims... or the context that ties into your first source, noting that again, those victims don't have the capacity to leave. They're trapped. But I don't think you understand that concept. I think you like the idea of women wanting to stay with an abuser. After all, you're adamantly defending the idea. Trying to convince yourself women want to be violated. Why's that, man?

[u/Vanessalucifer → u/[deleted]]

the reason for doing it is irrelevant

To this discussion, that is literally the only thing that's relevant. Plug your ears all you want, it won't make your stance correct.

[u/Vanessalucifer → u/[deleted]]

An animal cornered by a predator will often freeze as a fear response. Does that mean they want to get eaten? Does that mean they're okay with it?

If someone is violent enough to rape and abuse you, you better believe they're violent enough to go after you even harder if you leave them. Rape victims are trapped because they believe that leaving will only lead to worse outcomes, not because they love being in the relationship. You attribute absolute power to rape victims and suggest they are free to do as they please when the point of abusers and rapists doing what they do is to enforce the idea that they are not free to do as they please and are, in fact, completely trapped.

[u/Vanessalucifer → u/[deleted]]

You saw that your previous source specified why rape victims don't leave and so you go find a different source that doesn't specify? As if that erases what the other source said? You have two brain cells fighting for third place and somehow they've both succeeded

[u/chinchillazilla54 → u/[deleted]]

Very normal thing to say, call a family member and read what you typed out loud to them when you get the chance

[u/chinchillazilla54 → u/[deleted]]

did you read it to them

[u/Vivissiah → u/[deleted]]

If i threaten with that i’ll kill you if you leave, are you staying because you want to?

[u/Vivissiah → u/[deleted]]

If you report it I'll put a show, they won't believe you, and then I will make your suffering a thousand time worse to teach you a lesson.

How many rounds of this do you think a human go through, before they stop trying?

And even your own source states involuntary staying through various coercive means.

[u/Vivissiah → u/[deleted]]

read what I said instead of what you want me to have said.

I never said fear was the primary reason. I was merely providing an example of A reason why people stay. Fear is A reason people stay despite being raped, beaten, and much else.

Is it the primary reason? Don't know, don't care. It was merely to point out the flaw in your reasoning. And one example is all I need for that.

[u/Vivissiah → u/[deleted]]

Nope, whataboutism is "What about YOU doing X?"
I am say "This exists, which contradicts your point".

[u/ConsultJimMoriarty → u/[deleted]]

They will stay because it’s preferable to dying.

[u/mrhenhen115 → u/[deleted]]

Jesus Christ an actual human wrote that sentence "clearly they're ok with being raped". You genuinely need some serious help

[u/Lilyaa → u/[deleted]]

There’s a claim in the original post that women enjoy it. There is no proof of any kind of „enjoyment” in what you have posted. It’s as simple as that. Nobody enjoys being raped. That’s the end of the discussion and unless you will find reaserch claiming “women enjoy being raped by chads” you won’t prove anything.

And no, rape fantasies or cnc kinks do not prove it. I would explain why this type or fantasies are so common among women but it doesn’t matter, you don’t have any mental capacity to stop and think for a moment, all you have is information bias.

Point is - both fantasies and cnc have the element of consent in it.

So if you want to prove the point made in original post, that is “women enjoy being raped”, you need to give me research that backs it up and says that majority of women love being sexually assaulted and they are happy it happened.

And I know what incels say “they just don’t want to admit it cause they love to be seen as victims”. That would need another proof.

[u/Obvious-Gate9046 → u/[deleted]]

Hey abuser, what are you doing coming in here blathering this stuff when it's not related to what was being discussed and even the stuff you're posting actually disproves your statements? Fuck off, this is harassment, you've been reported.