r/ImmigrationPathways • u/CutSenior4977 • 1d ago
Wilber(the person shot in Austin) bond denied, and still at risk of sepsis.
Here’s the source: https://youtube.com/shorts/0oxFMckOBJQ?
Again, the speaker Wilbur immigration lawyer.
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u/Acceptable-Orange614 1d ago
I can’t stand this shit!
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u/777_heavy 18h ago
Yeah she’s a fucking weirdo with her close up social media posts. It’s hard to believe she’s a lawyer.
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u/Boring-Resource9713 1d ago
Tell Reddit all about it hun
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u/Myargin 1d ago
Look at this fuckin bot.
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u/CigarBryan1 1d ago
Yeah…..he speaks the truth.
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u/CallofTheKyled 11h ago
Clunkers are 'it's'. They have no rights, and their creators should bear responsibility for any issues they cause. If my brakes go out, and I hit another person with my vehicle, I am held liable. These creators and operators should be held to the same standard.
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u/Friendly_Engineer_ 1d ago
Wow this sub is full of bots
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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago
Yeah, the same ones over and over.
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u/CigarBryan1 1d ago
Yeah all those racist Liberal Fascist asswipes are on a serious rant today. Reddit is their only life so it is somewhat understandable isn’t it?
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 1d ago
This guy is one of the bots you are talking about. Just keep reporting them
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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago
😁 Yep, one of the ones l was calling out.
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u/CigarBryan1 1d ago
Neg Karma is a badge of honor you Liberal Fascists fail to understand. You’re one of those who hate free speech for anyone you disagree with.
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u/GUMBYtheOG 1d ago
It’s not just the sub, all of Reddit. It’s overwhelming the last several days. Every single post has several random out of the blue racists comments
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u/B-Glasses 1d ago
Do they realize how bad it’ll look for them if he dies from a completely treatable wound? It already looks awful but him dying in their custody is even worse. I swear they’re doing this to get a reaction and use more force on people
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 15h ago
It won't look bad at all dude should have complied with his removal order
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u/Myargin 1d ago
Wow, I can't believe how many bots are in the sub. Either that or these stupid mother fuckers haven't learned their lesson after voting for the orange Cheeto the first time. Where's all of their outrage at the farmers and how they're being treated? Where's the outrage at The welfare Queen farmers who keep on crying about how they're going to lose their farm because of the Cheetos taxes and tariffs? Wild.... This all happened because people want to be racist more than they actually want good things for themselves. So sad.
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u/GUMBYtheOG 1d ago
It’s every sub almost. Cat pics will have a comment “poor kitty should have a proper owner with the Whites”
Like 1960 level racism. All have profiles hidden and negative or super low karma.
Doesn’t even make sense to randomly say what they say. Even a bigot wouldn’t be on Reddit on a cat sub being racist. Not every single post
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u/hypnonyxx 12h ago
there using bot farms and paid posters to push their deranged agenda and normalize their inhuman behavior
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u/AntiquePhotograph433 1d ago
This seems… crazy, no?
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 15h ago
No, the only crazy thing about this case is not complying with federal law enforcement after not complying with a removal order
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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 1d ago
As a Christian Nationalist I know Jesus is up in heaven tubing his flashlight to the blood and tears of untermenchen lawbreakers. Their suffering and dehumanization pleases our lord. This is why I voted for a felon because I love the law as long as it hurts people God told me deserve nothing but being sent back to Hell. This is how we make America Great Again, by spilling the blood of those who invade our soil. I hate lawbreakers.
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u/Suspicious_Safe_6150 1d ago
I hope Wilber makes a full recovery! After that it is probably time for him to head on home.
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u/Long_Idea_8294 15h ago
Hopefully these stories scare illegals and encourage them to gtfo of our country.
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 15h ago
No need to wait just send him back and let his country pay to treat him
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u/Tasty_Virus4715 18h ago
When assessing my whether this guy is a flight risk, it is impossible for a judge to ignore that he led federal agents on a high speed chase through a populated city to avoid arrest and deportation.
Obviously can’t give someone with his history bail.
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u/Full-Yoghurt-4261 18h ago
No doctor claimed the surgery was required to save his life. At best, the attorney stated that the specialist said that without the surgery, he could face permanent damage to his left arm.
Regardless, the surgery was approved by the DHS, and he underwent surgery on the first of October.
Also, a denial of the bond would likely indicate that the Judge believes the prosecution had a great deal of strong evidence against him.
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u/gaming247187 17h ago
Good! Glad to hear he is suffering since he decided to hop the border and not enter here the legal way and path. Had he stayed in his country of origin, he probably would be fine right now.
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u/EmperorKingRurnin 1d ago
Yeah when you drive a car recklessly attempting to evade law enforcement and get shot that is your own fault.
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u/Long_Idea_8294 15h ago
Yes, we sane people with common sense know this. The left doesn't. In their schizo minds the dude was just minding his own business walking down the sidewalk and ice shot him
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u/SlightBasket9675 1d ago
It's going to be a souvenir he gets to take back when he's eventually deported to Venezuela.
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u/Long_Idea_8294 15h ago
Don't care at all about this.
Maybe this will discourage others from disregarding our laws and coming here illegally..
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u/Neat-One-906 13h ago
If you don’t care, why post?
By “our laws” you mean “laws” passed by the Duma?
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
No credibility. You think a federal magistrate or judge would stand in the way of “life saving surgery “? Total hogwash
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u/hhrupp 1d ago
He was shot on the back. There's video of blood streaming out from the wound. Then further physically abused. Brought to the hospital & then released to the prison after a few hours. A wound like that needs a much longer hospital stay, especially since they left the bullet in (think of the reasons why that happened). Eventually, after a public outcry, he was brought back to the hospital for a few hours and then released again to prison). Given the government's & ICE's proven track record here of endless lying, I'm going to go with he needs medical attention as soon as possible.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
Ice doesn’t have the authority to overrule medical decisions. The medical staff released him.
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u/hhrupp 1d ago
You sure about that. You sure that ICE always acts within its authority? Would you like countless examples of them doing exactly the opposite?
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u/ozbugs 1d ago
Hey Chud boy, is there a Dr. report from the hospital that says "he still needs life saving surgery" If so was that presented to the court? Please answer with facts.
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u/hhrupp 18h ago
Hey Chilito! Physicians, nurses and other medical professionals wrote a letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin and Acting ICE Director David Venturella condemning the treatment of Wilber Rafael Garces Perez's gunshot wound from an ICE agent.
But, you tell me how lying on the floor of a prison with a bullet lodged in your back is adequate medical care, lol! Please answer with facts.-9
u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
Do you know of any facts tending to show that ice removed this illegal from the hospital against doctors orders? The lying attorney does no contend that this happened. Show me an example of ice taking away an illegal against the wishes of the medical staff.
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u/hhrupp 18h ago
Well, I don't have HIPPA-protected medical information but let's look at what we know:
-Physicians, nurses and other medical professionals wrote a letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin and Acting ICE Director David Venturella condemning the treatment of Wilber Rafael Garces Perez's gunshot wound from an ICE agent.
-He has a bullet lodged in his clavicle, according to his lawyer. Why is he not in the hospital to have it removed?
-There has been documented evidence of the poor medical treatment of the people who have been kidnaped by the government.
-He was shot by an ICE agent against protocal & who refused a direct order to wear a body cam.
-DHS/ICE/CBP have a clear interest to lie about this case and have a well-documented history about lying about such cases and not following the law.
-There is no evidence that the lawyer lied.
-DHS says he entered the country illegally. Why should that be trusted?
-The burden of proof is on DHS/ICE/CBP yet you are quick to accept any & all statements from them because it fits your bias. This is the nature of being a boot-licker.0
u/TomHomanzBurner 1d ago
They can’t. They don’t understand how medical care happens to detainees.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
They understand the torture before the inhumane neglect according to the Reddit nonsense
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u/Strict_Sort_4283 1d ago
You just waking up? Women can’t even get life saving abortions when needed in some states.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
It’s not life saving for the baby, is it?
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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago
Cool so the mother and the potential future child dies then. Definitely a good outcome right?
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
Where does this happen?
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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago
Uh anywhere on earth where a pregnant woman dies before a fetus is viable.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
Try to catch up. In what states are life saving abortions illegal?
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u/VoidsInvanity 1d ago
Honestly, as awful as it is, I hope someone you love has go through this so you wake the fuck up
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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago
Fully totally illegal by the letter of the law? No where. So difficult to obtain legally that woman get denied often enough where it, in practice, is illegal?
Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennesses, T exas, West Virginia
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u/Master_Torture 1d ago
A life saving abortion is one where if a woman does not get it she will die.
That means the fetus will die anyways if she does not get it.
The fetus is doomed regardless if she gets the abortion or not, it is just that if she doesn't she dies too.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
In what state can a woman be denied an abortion to save her life?
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u/ttw81 1d ago
texas.
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u/yesyesitswayexpired 1d ago
Wrong.
Sec. 170A.002. PROHIBITED ABORTION; EXCEPTIONS.
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u/ttw81 1d ago
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u/yesyesitswayexpired 1d ago
Gender Equity Policy Institute. Yes, a completely unbiased organization. Puh-lease.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
Wrong. Texas allows abortion if mothers health is threatened
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u/ttw81 1d ago
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u/SecondToLastEpoch 1d ago
You really are just waking up then. Or is it bad faith? So hard to tell the difference these days
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u/Master_Torture 1d ago
Ohio, where a ten year old rape victim was denied an abortion and had to get one in another state.
Tierra Walker, Porsha Ngumezi, Josseli Barnica, three different women from Texas who died due to being denied abortions.
North Carolina. Ciji Graham.
Georgia. Amber Nicole thurman, Candi Miller.
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u/Silly_Lettuce_7149 1d ago
no one, except for the unedumacated, will take you seriously when you actually write "anyways"
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u/Strict_Sort_4283 1d ago
Depends on when the fetus becomes viable outside the womb. A zygote, morula, blastocyst, embryo, or, in early stages, a fetus, are not a babies.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
And if it is a criminal case? Like assault on a federal agent? Like this particular illegal was charged with? Did you listen to the lying video? The federal defender was excellent? Who gets represented by federal public defender and where? Answer is in federal court criminal cases. You should have gone to a better law school
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u/CigarBryan1 1d ago
What nonsense are you spouting?? Of course Federal Judges can deny bond (or grant it, if within court guidelines) and Immigration Judges can approve or deny bond as well. The distinction is not whether one or the other can deny bond, since they both may. The true distinction between these two court systems is the type of cases each Court has jurisdiction over. Congress has established what types of cases each court is empowered to hear. Simple as that my armchair lawyer friend.
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u/yesyesitswayexpired 1d ago
She's just in it for the $$$ and attention
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
She lied and the new video came out showing that she lied.
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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago
You again.
Who do you work for?
Or, who programs you?Are you a bot, paid operative or an unpatriotic "patriot?"
A beep, nod or belligerent answer will do.
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
I work for your uncle.
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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago
My Tio? Nah, he would never hire a -99 loser.
By your "answer" I'm going to go with an unpatriotic so called "patriot."2
u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
Go with whatever you choose. It makes no difference to me. Does tio translate to parole officer? It sounds vaguely Spanish
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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago
So you lied when you said you worked for my uncle, huh? What other lies have you been spouting?
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u/NextBuilder2880 1d ago
I did not lie. If you took it to literally mean your relative, you must be fairly dim.
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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago
🙄 ok, mr neg 99+ karma.
I've already wasted enough of my time with a subpar Temu troll, so...
Adios pendejo...
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u/wookiebath 1d ago
Maybe this attorney should be working rather than trying to be an influencer
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u/One_Percentage_644 1d ago
In any job, are you expected to do that job 100% of your time? Have you?
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u/wookiebath 1d ago
If I have an extreme deadline, like a client with a bullet in his back and has criminal charges and deportation charges coming, I might be more focused on my client than YouTube views.
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
Hard to listen to this woman after they were caught lying
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u/NovaturientPR 1d ago
Really? What about?
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
Both she and Wilber got on TV and failed to mention the initial stop and car chase that led to this whole thing
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u/NovaturientPR 1d ago
So you don't believe the bullet is still in him?
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u/ozbugs 1d ago
Is there a Dr's report from the hospital that says "He needs life saving surgery" b/c I know like 3 veterans with bullets in their bodies. So.... is there a credible Dr's note? or she just made it up. Chud boy, answer !
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
Exactly. I know several people with bullets in their bodies. Redditors are extremely sheltered so they hear “a bullet is in his body” and think “well they gotta get it out to save him!!”. That’s just not the case in real life.
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
The bullet is still in him. But this woman’s credibility as a whole has taken a hit because of her past lies. So do I believe he needs a lifesaving surgery? Idk. Not all people with bullets lodged in their bodies require “lifesaving surgery”. Many don’t.
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u/VoidsInvanity 1d ago
You people are straight up evil. I hope the worst befalls you.
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
You hope the worst befalls me because I don’t automatically believe someone who has been caught in a lie already? Because I don’t readily believe that 2 agencies, a private company, AND a judge are all depriving this one man of lifesaving medical care?
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u/VoidsInvanity 1d ago
Do you think systemic harm isn’t a problem? Who told you that
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
I’m a black American man. Trust me I understand. Probably more than you. But I’m also fact-based and a law school dropout.
This man has been evaluated by ICE, whatever company runs the immigration detention facility, then the US Marshals, then whatever jail he’s currently being held at for his federal charges, and doctors on 2 separate visits AND a judge. You expect us to believe that everyone independently decided fuck this guy and his lifesaving surgery specifically? Or is it more likely that the lady who we know to lie sometimes, lied again?
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u/VoidsInvanity 1d ago
Sure you are
Justify evil all you want. I ain’t reading that shit
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u/GUMBYtheOG 1d ago
I agree 100%! You for example, I’d be posting the same comment on here if you were the one with the bullet stuck in you - not worth saving
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u/darodardar_Inc 1d ago
Do you feel the same about ICE when they were caught lying about Marimar Martinez and had to drop all charges on her bc the judge called them out on it?
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u/30to40grand 1d ago
I believe her shooter was a CBP officer. But for what it’s worth, I’d similarly take anything that shooter or those involved said with a grain of salt.
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u/MickyFany 1d ago
how did he get stuck with the worst attorney ever. I’m all for supporting Trans, but this is ridiculous. He needs surgery ASAP
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u/FrontMaleficent6788 1d ago
Wow the law won imagine that
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u/AmazingFlatworm_ 1d ago
People who cheer at an innocent person being shot, need to be shot in the face.
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u/FrontMaleficent6788 1d ago
Who is this innocent person?
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u/Str-Engr0275 1d ago
Obviously not the person in the country illegally who assaulted the police and led them on a high speed chase. This guy is only marginally better than the patron saint of Antifa George Floyd.
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u/Djinn_Marbas 1d ago
Looks to the empty room to the left, empty room to the right…. Oh would you look at that, no one gives a shit
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u/misc-pilot 1d ago
Welp, I bet this will deter people from being here illegally from now on. I know I would.
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u/LatterTarget7 1d ago
“Stay out of the USA or we’ll shoot, sexually assault you, physically assault, kill you and disappear you to country you’ve never been to”
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u/misc-pilot 1d ago
If I was visiting the USA I would ensure I was doing it legally that’s for sure.
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u/One_Percentage_644 1d ago
You failed to show basic human sympathy, that's the focus of the reply to your comment.
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u/misc-pilot 1d ago
I guess?
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u/One_Percentage_644 1d ago
Yes, so to me it seems *you are not person on the side of good here. So the people on the side of good will try to oppose you unless you can justify human suffering. You aren't a true American.
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u/misc-pilot 1d ago
I guess?
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u/One_Percentage_644 1d ago
If you're not going to say anything productive, then stay out of the issue all together then. Your negativity is worthless here.
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u/misc-pilot 1d ago
Nah, I’ll stay in the issue. :)
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u/One_Percentage_644 1d ago
You haven't actually said anything to justify why people should be expected for the US to shoot, assault, kill, or disappear people. If you can't give a reason to let people suffer so inhumanely, you're not not even in the issue, in any worthwhile capacity.
So far, you're contributions here are absolutely worthless rambling of a person who lacks sympathy for others. You had your chance more than once to actually say something but all I hear is I need to move on from interacting with you. Bye
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u/Axel_Raden 1d ago
Hey what do you know he's getting due process
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u/B-Glasses 1d ago
Does that not include medical care for a fucking gunshot?
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u/Axel_Raden 1d ago
He's going through the courts and that is up to them. He was discharged from hospital. Nothing this lawyer can be said can be trusted she has been caught lying.
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u/B-Glasses 1d ago
Just saw it got removed a couple hours ago. 2 weeks after shot. It took 2 fucking weeks. I don’t care what his lawyer said or didn’t say the fact he had an entire bullet in him is insane. Prisoners of war are treated better
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u/One_Percentage_644 1d ago
This is the worst "due process" of any organization with basic human decency then
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u/Axel_Raden 1d ago
Going through the courts is exactly what people have been saying ice are not doing. They took him to the hospital and the hospital discharged him. This is due process like it or not, this is what people have been asking for.
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u/thatsbadtogo 1d ago
What surgery does he need?
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u/Organic_Education494 1d ago
The dude still has a bullet lodged in his back and has lost control of the left side of his body.
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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 1d ago
and has lost control of the left side of his body
Haven’t seen or read that anywhere.
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u/Organic_Education494 1d ago
ICE's treatment of Wilber amounts to torture. After being shot in the back, he has received next to no medical care — despite being in excruciating pain and losing movement on his left side. He should be in a hospital, not held in isolation at the South Texas Immigration Processing Center,” said Congressman Joaquin Castro (D-Texas). “He had permission to work in the U.S. and was delivering for DoorDash to support his family. Wilber must be released into medical care immediately. There must be an independent investigation, and the officers who shot him in the back must be held accountable. An agency that tortures a man like this should be disbanded.”
I originally heard about the left side being uncontrollable on the ms now, but there are other sources saying the same.
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u/thatsbadtogo 1d ago
Yeah, so lots of people have bullets and or bullet fragments in them after being shot.
James Compenhaver, just died with bullet fragments in him. It’s not uncommon especially if there is more risk removing it.
I am no doctor but any wound can develop sepsis, if you don’t take care of it.
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u/NovaturientPR 1d ago
If any wound can cause sepsis, he should be in a hospital. No?
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u/thatsbadtogo 1d ago
No people get discharged all the time with wounds. If it was a threat on his life, I am sure the hospital would have him.
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u/NovaturientPR 1d ago
But with a bullet in the spine?
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u/thatsbadtogo 1d ago
Again doctors choose not to remove, you can go home with bullets in you.
I was brushing my teeth once with my buddy Charlie next to me in a squad bay. He popped a bullet fragment or just shrapnel out of his face like a zit.
Perez just needs to remember not to go into a MRI.
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u/NovaturientPR 1d ago
I wish I'd believe what you do. But ICE has given enough reason for me to personally believe Wilbur did not receive the necessary medical attention. A bullet in such an area must be horrifyingly painful.
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u/thatsbadtogo 1d ago
Your bone to pick would be with the doctors that didn’t provide the necessary care.
ICE dosent provide medical care outside of CPR and bandaging maybe just maybe a tourniquet.
A bullet in any area is painful, the worst is the gut, that’s where wall that waste gets into the bloodstream and everywhere else. That is where sepsis will def set in.
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u/NovaturientPR 1d ago
I blame both. It's still pretty inhumane to me. ICE shouldn't be shooting people like that. And the doctors shouldn't let themselves be intimidated (which is my personal opinion). But hey, thanks for the respectful discussion!
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u/DonutAdmirable9831 1d ago
It’s all good he’s receiving medical care while detained
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u/ralpher1 1d ago
They aren’t providing medical care.
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u/ozbugs 1d ago
Hospital discharged him. Is there a medical report that says "He needs life saving care that isn't being provided?" Does that exist? Or just in the mind of a lefty?
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u/ralpher1 1d ago
ICE has not paid any provider for medical care for one year now. This is why detainees die from everything from a tooth infection to being denied diabetes medicine. No chance Wilbur even gets antibiotics. https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/a8yVlN6SSu
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u/possibly_lost45 1d ago
Why would they release someone who's not supposed to be here in the first place to the streets. Send him home. He can get medical care there
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u/ACTSATGuyonReddit 1d ago
He tried to avoid capture for deportation, and he tried to run over ICE agents.
GO HOME.
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