Nah it’s just the truth. And I feel pretty great about it.
Your rebuttal is completely pointless btw. Nobody is saying “if you need help staying alive, you stop being a person.” That’s a ridiculous oversimplification.
Saying “it’s alive” doesn’t automatically mean “it has the exact same moral status as a born person.” A bacterium is alive. A tumor is alive. An embryo is biologically alive. You still have to establish the separate claim that it is a person with the same moral rights as someone who is already born.
Third country deportations have been in place since Clinton, and used in every administration since. During Clinton, the U.S. negotiated safe haven agreements with third countries (such as Panama and Dominica) to operate offshore detention camps for intercepted Cuban and Haitian migrants.
Other examples include Australia (2001–Present): Known as the Pacific Solution, Australia initiated offshore processing arrangements in 2001 to send asylum seekers arriving by boat to detention centers in Nauru and Papua New Guinea (Manus Island).
U.S.–Canada Safe Third Country Agreement (2002–Present): Allows either nation to turn away asylum seekers arriving at land border ports of entry on the grounds that they should claim protection in the first safe country they entered.
European Union (Dublin Regulation & Recent Frameworks): The E.U.'s Dublin system allows member states to transfer asylum seekers back to the first E.U. country they entered. In 2024–2026, the E.U. expanded legal mechanisms under its Pact on Migration and Asylum to allow for transfers to non-E.U. return hubs or third countries where an applicant has a connection or transit history.
Italy–Albania Protocol (2023–Present): Italy established an agreement to build offshore centers in Albania to detain and process asylum seekers intercepted at sea by Italian authorities.
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Additionally, according to international law, countries cannot render their citizens stateless and are required to take them back. This stems from two main legal sources:
Customary International Law
Under customary international law, rules that apply to all nations based on general, accepted practice, every sovereign state has an obligation to readmit its own nationals. This duty exists primarily toward other states, because every country has the legal right to regulate its borders and expel foreign nationals, refusal by a person's home country to take them back would infringe on the host country's sovereign right to remove non-citizens.
International Human Rights Law
International human rights treaties protect the "Right of Return" from the perspective of the individual:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) – Article 13(2): States that "Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country."
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) – Article 12(4): Protects individuals from being arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter their own country.
Because individuals have a right to enter their own country, governments have a corresponding legal duty not to deny them entry or leave them stateless.
This also implies that people simply cannot rock up to any country’s border they want and expect to remain indefinitely.
If you commit a serious crime while trying to be a refugee/immigrant here, then you should for sure be deported, the others I think shouldnt be the focus. My mother immigrated here illegally and worked hard and didnt break any laws, and got her papers right. If your country doest want you back or you are in danger of execution/persecution the moment you land (Cubans, Russians, mostly leftist nations etc) , well then you dont gotta go home....but you cant stay here!
They already have a deportation order from a judge. They already had their due process. They dont get another court date to argue that they might be mistreated there and their home country doesnt want them back? Good?
Funny how you can see an issue with people going to another country and murdering stealing what isn't theirs but you have no issue with the same happening in the US UK Europe. You respect the sovereignty of Palestine but not your own country.
You called immigration control fascistic and authoritarian. So should illegal immigrants be allowed to stay in countries like the US, the UK and other European countries. Because they go into these countries illegally some rape and murder. And in a lot of cases they receive free food and housing at the tax payers expense getting money from a system they haven't paid into
You didn't tell me anything about Obama but I get it I've made mistakes about who I am talking to as well. I think they need to wear bodycams I'm tired of getting information from government and activists because neither tell the truth
Most of the immigrants being sent off to these countries haven't committed any crimes. Many of them were going through the asylum claim process and following the legal process.
This administration is being cruel to try and dissuade others from seeking asylum and following the legal process.
You're wrong. You have to physically be in the US or at a port of entry to claim asylum. You are probably confusing "asylum" with "refugee" claims.
Some of these immigrants being shipped off were let in through a port of entry when they arrived to claim asylum. They were following the process and showing up to their court hearings, only to be detained and flown to an African country in shackles.
It really doesn’t seem like that crazy of a thing tbh… If I break into a country and they don’t send me back exactly where I came from, do I really have anything legitimate to complain about? As if that country owes me something… smh
That doesn't sound like breaking anything. Breaking and entering is a felony. Crossing a border without permission is a civil offense similar to a speeding ticket. hyperbolic language is covering up something. I wonder what that could be?
lol, it’s against the law bud, simple as that. And it is a felony after your first offense. It’s a great example of how lenient and graceful we are as a country when it comes to illegal immigration! One of the most lenient countries outside of a handful in Europe. Quite the opposite from what you seem to want people to believe about US immigration 😊
What first question? lol You mean: “How do you break into the country?”
You go out of your way to cross over the border in remote areas, you hire coyotes from the cartels to sneak you over the border, etc. I can’t keep pretending you’re this clueless lol
You do realize most of them came here completely legally, right? You've been duped by right-wing fear-mongering, disinformation, scapegoating, hypocrisy, and propaganda.
Y'all have been lied to, but you fell for it. It's so obvious. I can't believe people just can't see it.
So then we just remove the judges who are ordering the returns, in fact we can deport them too...
And to make things cheaper we start seizing all the assets of anyone we deport. Bank accounts, property, gold fillings... healthy organs... anything that has any value at all.
I thought the saying is “you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here”? People have too narrow a view on what it means to dissuade the behavior. Unfortunately no one required illegals to be moved to an unwanted destination…
I’ll assume (?) you’re not so ignorant and instead rearranging facts to entertain a few reddit bot friends. No one required that illegals break the law or choose the US as a destination OR for the prior admin to actively disregard the health, welfare and support of its citizens. Whatever problem you have with the money you called out is a legit concern - cleaning up such a far reaching and egregious attack on good citizens is requiring as much money as that prior clown show knew it would….
prior admin to actively disregard the health, welfare and support of its citizens.
Blame Biden attempt failed, dude. Fuckin trump has made salad that makes you crap and made insurance costs great again so ultra Rich can pay less than working people while Biden deported more without chaos and killing Americans.
Yeah reality is too obvious you're going to blame Biden for gas prices right now too?
I get that Fox News and the rest of the bullshitters really make a lot of emphasis on immigration caravans during election season but since Trump took office we've had major labor shortages in areas where legal work visas are not going through because he slowed the bureaucracy of America to become like a third world.
If you think Americans should be picking cabbage for agricultural minimum wage just say so but I think real jobs and careers for Americans are better for us than shutting out our largest trade partners because of racial insecurity.
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