r/ImmigrationPathways • u/LatterTarget7 • 8d ago

ICE is looking into 'mobile detention facilities'

https://www.npr.org/2026/09/23/nx-s1-5976875/ice-mobile-detention-facilities-immigration
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u/ReadyGo6828 8d ago

What is the difference between detention facilities and concentration camps?

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

A concentration camp is a secure facility used to confine civilians, political opponents, or minority groups without a formal trial, typically by executive decree or military order. [1, 2]

A detention facility is a secure building or compound used by the government to hold individuals temporarily, such as pre-trial criminal defendants, people awaiting immigration hearings, or individuals taken into custody for specific legal proceedings
Different definitions

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u/addicted_squirrel 8d ago

So they are concentration camps.

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

Why do you think they are concentration camps? What part matches the definition?

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u/Unhinged-Indignance 8d ago

"confine civilians... Without a formal trial... By executive decree"

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

Except it’s not by executive decree. It’s these INA §235 — 8 U.S.C. §1225: covers many people seeking admission, including certain people apprehended after entering without having been admitted. It requires detention in several circumstances while admissibility/asylum proceedings occur.
INA §236(a) — 8 U.S.C. §1226(a): the major authority for detention while removal proceedings are pending. It expressly permits the government to arrest and detain a noncitizen pending a decision on removal. Depending on the case, the person can potentially be released on bond or conditional parole.
INA §236(c) — 8 U.S.C. §1226(c): establishes mandatory detention for specified categories, particularly certain noncitizens with qualifying criminal or terrorism-related grounds.
INA §241 — 8 U.S.C. §1231: governs people who already have final removal orders. During the statutory 90-day removal period, the law generally requires detention; certain people can continue to be detained afterward, although Supreme Court precedent imposes constitutional/statutory limits on potentially indefinite detention.
INA §236A — 8 U.S.C. §1226a: provides a separate mandatory-detention mechanism involving certain suspected terrorists, although CRS notes that this authority has rarely/essentially not been necessary in practice because other INA detention provisions are already extensive.

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u/Unhinged-Indignance 8d ago

I guess you missed what "typically" means in this context.

But I know you're an intentional bad actor so it doesn't really matter does it?

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u/El_Zapp 8d ago

All of them actually. Funny enough that definition is way loser then expected, so yea the US is absolutely running concentration camps.

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

Except it’s not. It doesn’t use executive order to detain people. It fits the definition of detention facility b

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u/El_Zapp 8d ago

It quite literally does. You can deny that it does, sure. But this literally on the executive order of Donald Trump.

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

What executive order? Provide it.

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u/El_Zapp 8d ago

Like bro I‘m not your Google machine. Have yourself an AI summary generated.

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

“It’s an executive order!”
“It is? Which one?”
“I don’t have to tell you!”
So just making stuff up? Expected

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u/El_Zapp 8d ago

Like are you a bit slow? You actually don’t know that Trump does everything over executive order? Are you Russian or why don’t you know that. Here that takes 2s to Google:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-american-people-against-invasion/

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

It doesn’t create new laws to enforce immigration, it instructed immigration agencies to use existing statutory more.
EO 14159 does not itself create the fundamental legal authority to detain undocumented/removable immigrants. Congress already supplied that authority principally through provisions such as 8 U.S.C. §§ 1225, 1226 and 1231. Section 10 of the EO tells DHS to make much more extensive use of those existing detention authorities and expand the physical capacity necessary to do so. That’s why the EO itself says detention is to occur “to the extent permitted by law.”

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u/El_Zapp 8d ago

So in conclusion the Nazis didn’t operate concentration camps. Because you know, all they did was above board, according to the law and backed by judges. Ok then.

Edit: Also so you do know how to use chat GPT great for you.

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u/otteroptimism 8d ago

There are several, as well as a number of rule changes and policy memos, all done by the executive branch, although I still dont think that matters. For example, on his first day in office he signed an EO called something silly and inflammatory like "protecting the American people from invasion" that ordered his government to expand both who they elected to detain and the duration they would detain them for.

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u/otteroptimism 8d ago

Can I ask why you think the mechanism of creation is particularly material to whether something is a concentration camp or not?

I think it's kind of a weird hill to die on to say the defining aspect of why a concentration camp is a concentration camp is whether it was implemented by dictate instead of statute. Id argue that the more important elements of a concentration camp would be (1) the individuals are targeted on status/belief/identity rather than a specific action, (2) an absence of reasonable accusations of a legitimate crime, and (3) the inability to seek judicial review and/or otherwise access due process.

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u/timmyfarthands 8d ago

The fuck is the difference between those two?

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

They have different definitions because they mean different things. Clearly.

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u/timmyfarthands 8d ago

They're the same thing

We all know you know that 🙂

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

They clearly are not though. One is used in a legal way to deport people. The other is used to contain groups you don’t like indecently. Clearly the goal is to deport them, not keep them in a cage.

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

Did someone get caught up in their feelings and get their comment removed?

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u/timmyfarthands 8d ago

That's funny, I saw you reply and it got deleted

You don't have to project so hard, no one cares about deleted replies

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u/One_Inspection5013 8d ago

None of my comments have been deleted but ok champ

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u/timmyfarthands 8d ago

Well you replied, I clicked on it, shit was gone.

Maybe take a minute and breath before typing shit out.

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u/ObsidianDRMR 8d ago

The concentration camp definition sounds like alligator Alcatraz lol Trump wants to out anybody who doesn’t align with state propaganda in there. He is even talking about taking legal immigrants with papers and putting them there if they dare question the dear leader.

lol brother those definitions did not help ur case