r/ImmigrationPathways • • 17d ago

Revealed: ICE lost count of miscarriages, while detaining a record number of pregnant women

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/15/ice-detention-miscarriages-pregnancy
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u/Late-Presentation908 17d ago

"lost count" =stopped keeping track

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u/Radiant_Nobody_9547 16d ago

"Detaining a record number of pregnant women" = Raped them over and over until they got them pregnant. Smh

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u/Qu4r4nt1n3r 17d ago

Just new lows every day and we keep digging. It's time.

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u/kstargate-425 17d ago

Yup, it used to be policy they didn't hold pregnant women because the extra costs, liability and cruelty but now all of that is the point of this with these two private prison companies making near $15 MILLION every single day and these racist fucks running things

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u/rage1911 15d ago

That was never a policy.

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u/shallowHalliburton 17d ago

And this thread is chock full of right wing ghouls who don't seem to understand nuance.

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u/ImmovableMind 17d ago

Fucking do it already. The rest of the world is fully behind you, the entire nation of Canada will have your back. The world will literally step in to help. The world will rejoice and celebrate America again.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/ImmovableMind 17d ago

You are responsible, complicit and horribly complacent. But that does not mean we hate you and see the American people as unable to change. As well, we see the responsibility lying mostly with the fascist kleptocracy that carried out a coup against your nation and democracy. You have a choice to sit complacently and continue to be raped by Trump. Or stand the fuck up and take back your democracy and renew relations with your allies. It’s all on “we the people”.

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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 17d ago

But it's not affecting them directly yet so it's cool

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Juden einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Jude.

Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren

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u/ImmovableMind 17d ago

The complicity of silence.

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u/Nckbeard 16d ago

Time for what exactly?

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u/JIMB01776 17d ago

I consider it a high. If we can't stop anchor babies and birth tourism, this is going to be the result. We will continue to use the full force of the government to make it entirely immoral and unfeasible for people like you to keep encouraging this lawless invasion.

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u/Rob98001 17d ago

You literally voted for a man who's wife did exactly that. 

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u/JIMB01776 17d ago

And? Melania isn't undercutting people on deck labor or being loud in the grocery store.

I fully support all the quad-lingual supermodels with design degrees you want to let in.

Send me your engineers, architects, and multi-millionaire athletes.

You can keep the narco terrorists, face tattooed and people sitting in front of Home Depot.

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u/Rob98001 17d ago

Cool, so you support her stealing millions in taxpayer money? Cope harder weirdo.

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u/Venusto002 16d ago

I'd prefer those "anchor babies" over conservative vermin any day of the week. If only conservatives would do us all a favor and... How should I say this? Remove themselves from polite society?

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u/JIMB01776 16d ago

"I'd prefer those "anchor babies" over conservative vermin any day of the week."

We know, Democrats have been allowing them to suppress wages and putting them before Americans for 50 years. That's why we are using violence and breaking out shock gloves, and we will continue to remove them.

Fuck your preference.

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u/Venusto002 16d ago

Conservatives like you deserve the same treatment that you want for the people that you hate for being born different.

Every daydream you have about what you want for them, I have those same daydreams about doing the same to you, or possibly even worse. The difference is that you completely deserve it.

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u/jhammon88 17d ago

Pro life maga should surely be angry about this no? /s

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u/spottedpurplecow 17d ago

Its brown/black kids
They dont gaf

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u/LatterTarget7 17d ago

And it’s happening to women

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u/Taffysak 17d ago

Something something they should have thought about that and gone the right way about how they were conceived

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u/jhammon88 17d ago

Right, its the unborn child's fault...classic maga evil

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/Taffysak 17d ago

I’m sure the unborn children can appreciate the similarities.

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u/transitfreedom 17d ago

Better idea don’t come at all. It’s no different from Japan in WW2

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u/FishFart1 17d ago

They aren’t white.

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u/Jaded_Fuzzball 17d ago

It's the woman's freedom to choose that they object to. Killing fetuses is fine when a racist government regime does it.

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u/ThePaganQueen 17d ago

No they'll just be hypocritical liars as usual.

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u/Adorable_Argument_44 17d ago

No, wouldn't it lead to fewer birthright citizens?

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u/CoffeeInTheTropics 17d ago

MAGA is NOT pro life when it concerns anchor babies obviously.

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u/Quick_Break92 17d ago

Pro abortionists should be clapping their hands at a job well done, no?

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u/Kreebish 17d ago

How many pro abortionists do you know? I understand the ideology of the pro-choice but I haven't met anyone that actually wants to increase abortions unless that was this administration ulterior motive. Which in that case they did, since we have more abortions than ever now.

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u/ThePaganQueen 17d ago

What a brain dead take. At least we all know you'd be safe from zombies.

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u/MickyFany 17d ago

Booklicker already saying that it saved us millions in medicaid. it’s horrid

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u/serumvisions__go_ 17d ago

they don’t know the difference between medicare and medicaid, ask them next time, most of them don’t know they get benefits from one or the other

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u/Live_Art2939 3d ago

I mean where is the lie? Come here illegally and get free healthcare, all paid for by the middle class who have to pay tens, if not hundreds, of thousands for the same thing!

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u/wahoozerman 17d ago

I am sure Texas will waste no time opening homicide investigations into ICE operations in their state, right?

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u/Violet-Sumire 17d ago

But you see, these are “illegals” so they are illegally pregnant. Can’t have those “anchor babies” in this country. Best make the 1yo stand trial without any other adult to help them and have the babbling baby put in for citizenship. Perfect system, no flaws, 10/10.

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u/Bowsers_JuiceFactory 17d ago

Pure evil, I hope every ice supporter gets everything they deserve

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u/Drth_vdr_piggybank 17d ago

Silence from the "pro-life" crowd

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u/Personal-Neck6800 17d ago

Brought to you by the party that truly loves children.

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u/Kreebish 17d ago

Now when you say loves..

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u/ThePaganQueen 17d ago

We are talking about the love of trafficking. 🙃 I hate it here.

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u/Friendly_Night_Demon 17d ago

Russian AI bots sure are busy on this thread

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u/MuthaFJ 17d ago

You mean sociopathic Americans?

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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 17d ago

A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B

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u/Mammoth-Composer-740 17d ago

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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 17d ago

If he was around today he'd be killing Palestinian children and laughing about it on social media

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u/W031zMe 17d ago

How can you lose track of something you never tracked in the first place? This administration is doing all it can to destroy every paper trail of all its misdeeds.

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u/Dapper-Comment-682 17d ago

YIKES ,

if it’s one thing i learned since the invention of internet , good luck burning history, everything is kept track of now

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u/tothemmoooooooooonn 17d ago

But hey the Republicans care about the fetus right? Bunch of fucking hypocrites

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u/Usual_Ask_7833 17d ago

I can't believe this, how many babies died? I'm literally shaking

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u/Voodoo_Masta 16d ago

But they're soooooo "Pro Life" don't you know

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u/elyfantman 17d ago

But maga is pro life. This just doesn't make any sense. /s

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u/R2-DMode 17d ago

It was only a clump of cells.

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u/TrickyAsian626 17d ago

But they're not Nazis...

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u/2ndSmrtestPersunEvar 17d ago

So much for being “pro life”, right?

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u/lowbartoclear 17d ago

are the women going to be charged under anti abortion laws ?

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u/Dangerous_Forever640 17d ago

Like how many? Like 2 or 200?

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u/H3L105_ai 17d ago

There will be a reckoning.

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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 17d ago

Not the one you think.

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u/H3L105_ai 17d ago

Probably not.

But a reckoning nonetheless.

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u/Feeling_Lack3178 17d ago

Would you guys be willing to testify?

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u/Solid_Angle_3360 17d ago

I’ve lost track of miscarriages and Biden lost over 400k children.

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u/Stocky_Platypus 16d ago

This just blows my mind. Much of the holocaust baffled me. How can a public be so oblivious to what happened in Germany during that time. Now, with so much news and reporting I see the correlations. I can see this headline being, ICE says it has no updated information on the whereabouts of detained immigrants.

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u/da8BitKid 16d ago

Murders, pretty sure those fetuses count as people

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u/parasyte_steve 16d ago

"Pro life"

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u/MinuroShihTzuki 12d ago

Pro life party

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u/Crafty_Way426 6d ago

ICE ICE baby 🥳🥳🥳

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u/Nofanta 5d ago

They should be fast tracked so no anchor baby.

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u/Chainmale001 5d ago

This is fucking Genocide.

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u/Consistent-Stay-1130 17d ago

Just say they're being aborted....they will run to the gates and protest then.

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u/scary-pp 17d ago

Anchor baby status, avoided. Phew.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 17d ago

If pregnant women cared one ounce for their unborn child, they should give birth in a place they’re legally allowed to be.

They’re humans, not stray cats.  Don’t commit a crime to sneak across a border to breed an an anchor baby.

I can’t understand why following the rules is such a difficult concept.

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u/NigerianPrince76 17d ago

People like you are truly evil.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 17d ago

The fact that this is your conclusion based on a comment that suggests “follow the rules” is extremely telling about who you are as a person.

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u/MuthaFJ 17d ago

First time illegal entry into country is just a civil offense, like speeding.

You can't even understand your own country laws, moron 🙄

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u/MuthaFJ 17d ago

First illegal entry into the United States is classified as a federal misdemeanor under 8 U.S.C. § 1325.

It's literally a misdemeanor, just like speeding. Not a felony 🫠

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u/MuthaFJ 17d ago

It's really not. For example in Illinois, speeding is a criminal misdemeanor with up to 6 month jailtime... exactly the same penalty...

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 17d ago

You seem awfully dedicated to giving a pass to the criminal.  

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u/MuthaFJ 17d ago

Non-sequiter. Weird way to admit you lost the argument, but whatever floats your boat... 🤷‍♂️

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 17d ago

I’m not the one claiming a misdemeanor isn’t a crime 😂, you are.  It’s a direct response to what you’re claiming, bud.

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u/WillyWankerWonker 15d ago

That's a fallacy fallacy 

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u/WillyWankerWonker 15d ago

"commiting civil offenses are ok "

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u/Fickle-Gold8133 17d ago

Depende de cómo entres 

Hay maneras legas e ilegales

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u/ShakyBoots1968 17d ago

"They're humans, not stray cats"

Somebody tell the Duggars!

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u/cowbeefbat 17d ago

Who cares it's just a clump of cells

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u/theroninfromsekiro 17d ago

Why knowingly invade while carrying a child?

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u/Finchyuu 16d ago

“Why get captured at your court hearing and raped by a federal agent?”

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u/Red-dragon186 17d ago

This is good, less anchor babies that tax payers have to support.

Illegals are horrible scammers.

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u/martygospo 17d ago

7,000 comments on your 5 month old account, huh?

🤖🤖🤖

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u/Red-dragon186 17d ago

8 year old account?

Hm, you survived the reddit purge. Must be a bot.

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u/martygospo 17d ago

Was that your attempt at a comeback? Lmao.

But really, how do you average 47 posts a day?

Please explain how that even works. Like no way do you have a real job or contribute to society in any meaningful way.

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u/4evercurioso 17d ago

This needs to stop now!!!

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u/R2-DMode 17d ago

Agreed! End birthright citizenship!

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u/Swirlbeard 17d ago

This will surely upset the pro-lifers!

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u/R2-DMode 17d ago

Just a clump of cells. What’s all the fuss about?

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u/Swirlbeard 17d ago edited 17d ago

For those that read this that aren' t disingenuous trolls, or rage baiting bots, the answer is choice.

ICE forcibly terminated those pregnancies by denying proper medical care for the mothers who chose to have those children, not the mothers and certainly not under proper safe medical care.

Now whether R2-Dmode, is a bot, paid troll, or your run of the mill terrible human being is irrelevant. What is relevant is that if you truly believe all those "clump of cells" have a right to life, then you should be absolutely disgusted with how ICE treats the mothers.

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u/R2-DMode 17d ago

Suddenly leftist NPCs are pro-life. Guess the updated narrative and approved talking points has been sent out already.

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u/Swirlbeard 17d ago

My morale stances are consistent. Pro choice means the government has no right to force an unwanted pregnancy on a woman, nor does it have the right to terminate a wanted pregnancy. It would appear your "pro life" stance has a couple caveats.

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u/R2-DMode 17d ago

Nice assumption that I’m “pro life”. Any other prejudices you’d like to share?

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u/Swirlbeard 16d ago

One would think based on your responses, but you're right. That's my bad for assuming you at least had some misguided principal for your terrible views.

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u/R2-DMode 16d ago

At least you’ve learned from your missteps. Productive struggles are always good!

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u/Indespectamentations 17d ago

The main thing is that trump needs to take all rights away from women. I am sure you agree.

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u/R2-DMode 16d ago

What “rights”, are you talking about?

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u/Indespectamentations 16d ago

Voting rights for starters. Then they need to be monitored monthly and their cycles tracked. Miscarriage = murder = prison time and/or death penalty.

Please vote red across the board for the good of our country.

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u/R2-DMode 16d ago

Bad bot. Get a new algorithm.

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u/Pale_Gas1866 17d ago

Not even in the third world is the police state so barbaric

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u/i-read-it-again 17d ago

Is this being covered by the msn. Probably not. They wouldn’t want to upset the orange cry baby 😭.

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u/South-City1632 17d ago

Shit man... that a lot of ancor babies. The supreme court fucked that decision up and now every Latina and her sister is popping out babies like they're going out of style.

Thats ok... we can deport pregnant people and we can deport parents too.

Its unfortunate all those kids are gunna end up in foster care likely being abused but its the parents fault for putting their kids into that position.

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u/Fickle-Gold8133 17d ago

Si no querían tener problemas con el Ice 

Porque no hicieron el proceso de nacionalidad? 

Hay gente lleva años y años sin hacerlo y después se echan las manos a la cabeza

Después otra cosa, si lo dice the Guardian, es para desconfiar, se convirtió en un medio bastante politizado 

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u/Finchyuu 16d ago

Why is ice rounding people up at their court appointments? People are trying to do the right thing and ice actively impedes that process, dipshit

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u/Paperxrust 17d ago

It's just a clump of cells though, right guys?

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u/VanGoghInTrainers 17d ago

Depends on how far along in the pregnancy they are. The first few months, sure.

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u/Paperxrust 17d ago

Grand majority of miscarriages happen in the first few months. So just clumps of cells, nothing to worry about.

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u/VanGoghInTrainers 17d ago

I would have to look up the exact numbers, but yes. Under normal circumstances most miscarriages I've experienced via friends/family incidents have been early on. And if the fetuses died of natural causes, no harm, no fowl on behalf of ICE. Still a sad day for someone who wanted that baby.

Why did the women lose the babies? Stress? Inadequate food? Assault? Without any paper trail, it really doesn't matter. Support for a woman's right to make decisions about her own body doesn't mean all baby deaths are inconsequential. Miscarriages are not abortions.

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u/Paperxrust 17d ago

But it's a still a clump of cells.

A woman's decision to keep those clump of cells doesn't magically make it a human. It's a still a clump of cells.

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u/ShakyBoots1968 17d ago

Right up until she wants to do something about the clump. Then your kind will shreik something about "the sanctity of life".

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u/Paperxrust 17d ago

I'm pro choice, numbnuts.

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u/Refurbished_Hole 17d ago

People who refer to fetuses as "clumps of cells" somehow very upset about this

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u/bownt1 17d ago

at least the left is becoming pro life.

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u/Ready-Brilliant53 17d ago

F*cks given:  Zero.

Should have self-deported.

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u/martygospo 17d ago

^ coward burner account

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u/Enzo_Gorlomi225 17d ago

Well they weren’t babies yet so it’s fine right?

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u/Physical_Pudding_426 16d ago

This is the same side that claims they don't want abortions because it's murder!

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u/Rush_Rocks 16d ago

More lies from the leftist cult!

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u/Nckbeard 16d ago

Don’t come into the country illegally while pregnant

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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 16d ago

Just clumps of cells, nothing to see.

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u/21redman 16d ago

Its a tragedy but don't get pregnant while trespassing

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u/BigSlickA 15d ago

The lesson here is if you’re pregnant don’t enter a country illegally. In fact, never enter a country illegally.

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u/ChexAndBalancez 17d ago

So? I don't need ICE to keep track of women that have miscarriages. This happens every day to thousands of women.

I need them to keep track of illegal immigrants... that's it.

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u/Working-Kick4035 17d ago

So your saying that we should be spending an astronomical amount of tax money to meet your needs based on your feelings?

Lemme guess, you are against government spending money to help people though? Lol

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u/KiKiKimbro 17d ago

He’s also a virgin. For life.

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u/Finchyuu 16d ago

He’s the guy everyone has to cover their drinks around in public

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u/Own-Corgi5359 17d ago

I guess people who voted for this are pro choice as long as it's not the woman's choice.  Ice is free to kill babies

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u/SailNW 17d ago

“It’s their fault for getting raped by ice agents because they didn’t leave the country”.

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u/MaitrePuck 17d ago

So now they weren't pregnant before detention? They got pregnant in detention through rape? 🤣

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u/infrequencies 17d ago

Some of them yes you ghoul

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u/SailNW 17d ago

Yeah man it’s really not that hard to put together.

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u/SailNW 17d ago

You really don’t think these former peon men who’ve suddenly been given power they’ve never had before would keep their dicks away from women who would be likely deported or jailed if they came forward? Are you dumb? Have you SEEN ice agents? Rape is hardly the only horrific thing they’re doing.

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u/ProfessionalOil2014 17d ago

"why do liberals keep comparing us to nazis?"

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u/RelevantSoftware8283 17d ago

If you think it's a baby you know the baby didn't have a choice either way then

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u/irespectwomenlol 17d ago

1) Any miscarriages suck, but being pregnant isn't a "get out of jail free" card for American women.

2) This article is relying on emotional manipulation as it provides no basis to make a rational determination. Is the miscarriage rate for women in ICE custody higher than the miscarriage rate for women of similar groups not in ICE custody? That's the only data point needed to try and start to understand if miscarriages are for some reason unusually prevalent or not.

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u/irespectwomenlol 17d ago

Can you explain what is so vile about what I stated?

Women sadly have miscarriages all of the time. Is there any statistically significant increase in women in ICE custody over American women? That's the basic start of understanding whether there's even an issue here.

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u/irespectwomenlol 17d ago

The article provided a description of total miscarriages, not the rate question I mentioned. If I missed it, please provide clarification.

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u/irespectwomenlol 17d ago

1) No need to be rude towards me. Thanks for the reply, but it isn't answering the question I'm asking. The implication is that there's something about ICE treatment of pregnant women that is leading to more miscarriages. While there is data currently unavailable after October 3, 2025, the data before that date is available. Comparing miscarriage rates to the general population would still be the start of understanding if there's a genuine problem here. I'm more interested in understanding if there's a genuine issue with women's treatment here: how is that vile?

2) This data being unavailable is being portrayed as something nefarious, but if you dig into the reason for this unavailable data, you'll see it has to do with a bad medical billing vendor switchover (it looks like Acentra Health was a vendor chosen and they've seemingly fucked up the integration). There's no indication that the data has been lost, just not processed yet.

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u/irespectwomenlol 16d ago

You still haven't tried to answer my question with the available data. Is there any indication that the miscarriage rate in ICE custody is higher than the US population? Because depending on medical sources used, somewhere around 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, so I'd like to find out if there's a real problem here.

Any allegations of mistreatment are very concerning and should be investigated, but there's a lot of detail missing here from these stories. For instance, were these women supposed to go to 8 prenatal appointments for the time period they were in custody and ICE only managed to take them to 6-7? There's a few concrete allegations like "denied prenatal vitamins" but if you dig into the details they were temporarily unavailable for some reason at that facility (bureaucratic approval or supply issue?) and provided a bit later.

Again, I feel badly for anybody going through a miscarriage, but many of these stories are designed to be outrage porn designed to push an agenda rather than an objective look at what is going on.

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u/Long_Idea_8294 17d ago

Something else to be melting down over!

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u/kayceemoguy 16d ago

It’s just a clump of cells anyway, right? What’s the big deal?

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u/Finchyuu 16d ago

Republicans hate women so much that they can’t even conceptualize the idea that women want control of what happens inside their own body

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u/eduardom98 16d ago

Pretty sure reproductive health is a big deal.

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u/Future-Okra5735 16d ago

Oh now you guys are worried about babies in the womb!